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Ron Paul: FEMA Causes More Harm than Good - FBN's Stossel 11/02/2012

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When I first started watching Ron Paul I kept having problems with his stances, like civil rights, military, FEMA, NASA, etc. I keep finding that in the end I wind up agreeing with him after fighting it all the way lol

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This issue that comes up

Unfortunately, the issue that comes up if you try and speak about FEMA being unnecessary; inevitably the opposition speaks about funds and inquires how you can "leave people out on the streets, starving?"

As with many tactics the liberal-minded often take, they ignore the #'s and instead go strictly off of emotion; they ignore the long-term and focus completely on the short-term.

The truth is, simply eliminating FEMA is NOT enough to fix the problem. The opposition's argument that the localities and states would lack funds to respond to disasters is 100% true. But, it's their own big federal government policies, along with the neo-cons, which require such high federal income tax, which denies states and localities the ability to tax their people for specific purposes, be it education, police/fire, town maintenance, or emergency disaster response.

Cincinnati's tax rate is constant (although I'll figure an income of $30,000, and single-marital status), approximately 2.1%.
Ohio's tax rate for an income of $30,000 is approximately 2.322%.
Federally, the income tax rate is 15%.
FICA is 6.2%.

So the feds are getting 21.2% of the $30,000 income's wages. The state and municipality are only getting 4.422%. This $30,000 income is paying a total of 25.6% of their income to some form of government via income-taxes. So umm, yeah, their is a major difference in funds available to the locals for disaster relief. But whose fault is that? I'd argue that it's the fault of those who praise big federal government lifestyle.

Now, if we followed the good Dr's advice and cut militarism spending back to 'reasonable' levels; brought our troops home from around the world (stimulating the local/state economies in which they are now based at home); offered up a solvency plan for those who've paid into SS and Medicare for the majority of their lives, while allowing the youth to opt out by paying "just" 1% or 2% to FICA; and closed needless federal departments, like Interior (States can work together on things like national parks... It's not that difficult), Education (Education has only become less effective and more expensive since its inception), Energy (Our nuclear missiles, of which most should be decommissioned, shall be the property/responsibility of DOD, the rest of the energy responsibilities belong to private industry). We can get rid of the IRS if we simplified the tax code; provide MAJOR tax cuts to all citizens, something like a flat 5% as a transition toward no income tax whatsoever. Something to still allow for revenue to make it in, but will provide tax relief to even the lowest income earners, and enormous tax relief to those in the middle and upper classes.

Do all of this, and now the states and municipalities are in a position to focus on their people. They may choose to raise their taxes a bit, but the effect would be enormously positive... Given how low they are, relative to federal, a "100% increase" in taxes in Cincinnati, and Ohio would result in the $30,000-income earner paying 8.84%. The city and state would have much more room to work with civic projects, education, healthcare/shelters, emergency response... And the tax payer would still be paying (5%FedIncome + 2%FICA + 4.2% + 4.64% = 15.84%) considerably less in taxes than they were before... yet seeing better and more direct results.

When it comes down to it, it's this country's love of war that has allowed this bass-ackwards system to develop. The non-sense nature of paying so much more to the feds than the local governments can only be 'defended' if one wishes the federal military to scourge the Earth. Otherwise, just what does the federal government do that the states/municipalities couldn't do with the same level of funding?

See, the typical defender of big government won't listen to this reasoning. They'll cut you off the second you mention 'No FEMA' because they'll call you heartless and all of that jazz. If you can find someone willing to critically think, then you'll wind up with a new FEMA denouncer.


Something I want to hit on that I forgot to in my first post... Dr. Paul's mention of private insurers not offering flood protection on homes being a sign... he is 100% right, and the fact that people ignore that shows just how dumbed-down and reliant on government we've become.

The reason insurance companies don't offer flood insurance in 'flood zones' is because it's a bad bet. Inevitably, even if only once every 25 years, they'll have to pay out more than they've brought in from premiums (once they've paid employees/operating costs). The truth is, everything, comes at a price. Living on the ocean can be fantastic for you and your family for most of the year... Beautiful sunrises/sets, access to the beach for swimming/volleyball/tanning etc, the 'ocean air.' But there is a negative to it as well... Your every single possession can be wiped out in one second by a tidal wave, or through surging waves from hurricanes/big storms. That is the 'price' which is paid for all of those beautiful sunsets.

I'm not saying that someone who loses everything 'deserves' to, that is simply not the case. I'm just saying that it's an unfortunate side-effect to living on such an amazing piece of property. Some people choose to drive their vehicles without wearing their seatbelts. Assuming they are not in an accident; they'll have a more comfortable ride, most likely. If they are in an accident while traveling at any significant level of speed, however, they're likely to be ejected from the vehicle and experience major physical trauma. Do they deserve it? Of course not. But was it more likely to happen, given their choice? Yes.

FEMA creates the moral hazard. "Oh the government will help me if I lose everything." Perhaps, a factual statement. But as Dr. Paul put it, these folks living on the beach... they're the rich people. The 1%. Supposedly the ones whom the liberals despise. And yet they are receiving the tax monies to rebuild their dwellings and recover their possessions.

Feeding people in shelters costs practically nothing, compared to repairing/rebuilding the property damage. Simply put, if people wish to live in dangerous areas, they ought to do these things:

A) Have enough money in savings to completely replace any and everything in their home, including their home.
B) Invest in property protections (build their own levees surrounding their property, or similar protections)
C) Accept the risk and hope for the best
D) In the event of catastrophe, accept the consequences of your decision and learn from the experience.

New Orleans is completely below sea level. Katrina should have taught that city and the state of Louisiana something. Instead, the city has boomed back. Fair enough, I'm glad people like it there. If it happens again though, I will personally write a letter to the editor of every single newspaper in the country, condemning the New Orleans government and the people of New Orleans for returning to a dangerous place to live, and not taking steps to defend it from another Katrina.

Simply put, people want to have their cake and eat it too. Have perfect views/experiences on sunny days, but also have complete government protection from disasters. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Live in 'paradise' at your own risk.

Yeah, yeah... I hate to sound like a depressing sourpuss...

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I love how Stossel ended the interview, priceless!

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Heres my two cents

Ill give FEMA the benefit of the doubt. Most people do not understand FEMA's "mission", and media hype and pressure usually shapes FEMA's response. I have an uncle that works part time with FEMA as a lead inspector. Hes always says he denies the vast majority of "claims" because people and businesses expect FEMA to subsidize their loses, which is what FEMA has become, just another Government handout. Even he wants FEMA to be dismantled...although he probably isn't the typical FEMA worker, he actually spent his entire life in the private sector.
In conclusion, FEMA filled a void that was originally left by the National Guard, but FEMA's mission and responses have been disillusioned from their original intent.

Katrina was largely a mess because of the state response. I refuse to blame Bush and FEMA for the incompetence and greed of Louisianna's governor and New Orleans' mayor.


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Tell these people

that FEMA is there for them...

zero assistance to Staten Islanders... zero!

Staten Island Borough President: Do not Give Money to the Red Cross - they are a disgrace

They have been 'trained' to 'trust' government
and have paid taxes for the privilege of trusting in this false hope.
Shut it down.
Prepare yourselves. Trust (only) yourselves. Help your neighbor.


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