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The Hypocrisy of Gary Johnson Supporters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWaHGzU02k0

Pardon the bad audio quality, this new screen capture software I got isn't all that great. It skips a lot.
Funny thing about the Johnson supporters, they censor any mention of Johnson's name when associated with American drone strikes. I find that rather peculiar and very hypocritical. Anyone who thinks Johnson is "close" or "similar" to Ron Paul is delusional. The ugly truth is, a vote for Johnson is a vote for war. PERIOD.

Sources:

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Gary_Joh...

Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/thedcs-jamie-weinstein-gar...
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http://www.youtube.com/RepublicOfTexasTV



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LOL...

...biased? I am listing direct quotes from Gary Johnson. You obviously don't like what you are seeing so you accuse me of bias. Why are we even having this conversation? Gary Johnson lost (and I mean LOST) so get over it and stop dedicating your time trying to discredit people.

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What about his quote from the debates?

"We have to stop with the drone strikes."

THAT is a lot stronger and more recent than the thing about leaving options on the table. Leaving options on the table is a negotiating tactic - it doesn't say "I will do EVERYTHING. I will use every option". (Like drone strikes.) It says "I am not telling you what my strategy will be."

Yet all the anti-Gary Johnson people pretended that mean he would continue drone strikes. When he never said such a thing.

He SAID "We have to stop with the drone strikes." THATS pretty specific. Yet you ignored it in favor of the misleading statement.

Why? Why didn't you want people to know the truth?

There can be only one reason - you were BIASED against Gary Johnson.

Therefore your whole "analysis" is tainted.

in the part of my article

in the part of my article where I was talking things that contradict RP I listed the quote about leaving all options on the table. Under reasons to vote for Gary Johnson I clearly stated that he was the closest candidate to Ron Paul giving the link to his issues page where it has his stance on drone strikes(not in quote form hence not listed in the article). I wanted to gather all the good and bad about Gary, the good is that he is the closest candidate to RP and the bad is some of his quotes in the past that make him contradictory to Ron Paul. I'm glad you are making a really big deal about this because the experts are predicting that after the recounts GJ might have won this election after all.

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Why is it biased?

Because you don't like the results? What's biased about it?

GJ and the LP can't excite a fly because of their hypocrisy. Learn your lesson and move on, no need for all the butthurt...

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

The LP has disappointed me again this election

The LP has continued its smilingly perpetual existence as nobodys. If they were serious about becoming a mainstream, libertarian campaign, they would actually run some decent TV ads (Even here in Ohio, candidates only have to pay a hundred or two for a commercial), and would stop constantly lobbying to get the same old pot crowd. Im all for legalizing pot, but it certainly is not even close to being a main issue this year.

Their stubbornness makes me ponder where all the donations is going...

As for me, I hopped off the Johnson bandwagon a month ago. I live in Ohio, and have since realized that our best chance at doing anything is within the GOP. I was at a FreedomWorks/Beck event back on November 2nd, and when Glenn started saying how we need a strong, honest, gold-backed currency, and that we are waaaay over stretched overseas-the whole crowd of 4,000 gave a standing ovation.

Rand 2016 if Romney screws us over. If no Rand, then its time for a third party.

I'm a Libertarian that donated $300 to Ron Paul....

and $0.00 to the Libertarian party because I wanted to back a liberty-minded candidate that I thought had a fair shot. I also voted for RP in the primaries crossing party lines to do so.

Sorry that so many Libertarians were busying supporting Ron Paul that we neglected a better choice for you. Maybe we should get back to doing that while ya'll work on the GOP.

Dont get me wrong...

This entire summer I went door to door and held sign waves outside of both Obama and Romney events.

I was a Johnson guy through and through until a few weeks ago.

No woriries, we'll divide the liberty effort so we can assure...

the two-party beast that they'll remain in power. You have to attract members from both parties to have effective change. Libertarians spend a lot of money just getting on every ballot each election. That money could be spent on better and more commercials if we could get 5%.

I think I'm done with the C4L and won't spend my time and money helping the next liberty-minded candidate. It seems many here rather have it all their way or nothing, so I'll give you nothing.

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It wasn't from us, unless you believe you're entitled to our votes somehow.

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I don't know how you could think that I believe the LP...

is entitled to anyone's vote. The strategy is an allied front to promote a liberty-minded candidate whether they're Republican or Libertarian.

Obviously, I was mistaken that party didn't matter. I'm sure if Ron Paul had ran as the Libertarian Party candidate after losing the Republican nominee, that his supporters would vote for him as I did when he left the Libertarian Party to run as a Republican.

No worries, I'll work with my party and you work with yours. Maybe one day it will occur to all of us that we should work the system together to bring liberty forward.

You won't get this because it was you that made the statement to

begin with.. So if you didn't know enough to not say it then you'll never learn why it's bad most likely. And the comment was specifically for you since you said it..

Obviously you were mistaken that the party "didn't" matter? Well that's another dumb statement.. the party DOESN'T matter but that seems to be what you are whining about. That we didn't vote for your party.

I voted for Ron Paul because of his message and the kind of man he is... for some reason, you LP people just don't seem to be getting it.

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Actually...you're just finally getting it....

Ron Paul was giving the same message when he was a Libertarian but nobody listened.

I guess changing parties and history are finally opening eyes. I would have loved nothing more than if Ron Paul had ran as a Libertarian AGAIN but he would not have gotten into the debates and you wouldn't have given him the time of day.

We've dealt with the same media smear and mocking that Ronpublicans whine about now from the GOP. It's interesting to see you become such the hypocrite.

Like it or not, those are the facts.

No hypocrite here but you LP'ers

certainly do whine.

Your mocking though as weebles points out amounts to a hill of beans this go around... The neocons know a fellow brother when they see one.. They've seen the LP go from principled way back when it started to the spitting image of the RNC modern day.

We're the only group that hasn't compromised. You're group has become a watered down version of what Liberty could be. Those are the facts.

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Links?

to the Media smearing Gary Johnson? All I've seen is them treating him with kid gloves. Even praising him. Hannity almost french-kissed Johnson.

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

I drank the LP kool-aid for a little while

But history tells us it is a dead-end. Reforming the GOP, and even the Dems is the only way to go forward. Short of a full-on revolution, nothing will break the 2-party grip on the system, so it is up to us to come out in droves to support liberty candidates on our ballots. Forget about the presidential election as it is inconsequential. The key is to change the power structure within the parties and get liberty in the platforms more and more. I feel that there have been many successes in that area this year in the GOP; 100% thanks to the example set by Ron Paul and the individual efforts that inspired.

It's up to us now to be that example multiplied by millions. Reform the major parties and forget about the LP, at least in the presidential election. I am voting for Libertarian Chris Edes for Senate in New York because Gillibrand's Republican challenger is no friend of liberty at all. Aside from that, I am writing in Ron Paul, voting for Republicans in the other races, and one moderate Dem for state senator. Study who is on your ballot and make informed choices across the board. That is what's important; not the presidential election.

With liberty and justice for all...who can afford it.

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Not only has history told us it was a dead-end,

Ron Paul showed us it was a dead end.

He already tried that route and it didn't work out - he said so himself.

Staying in the Republican Party and reforming it from within is the route I have chosen to take.

I still will not vote for Romney, though.

the delustion of

the Two party system.

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His name is Edward Snowden

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The truth about Gary Johnson

The truth about Gary Johnson

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OK....let's be real here....

Gary Johnson has ZERO chance of winning so what would voting for him achieve?

Several things but one for sure would be a chance to run a liberty-minded Republican in 2016 under the Libertarian Party if Romney wins or if he loses and the GOP decide to cheat the next liberty-minded Republican out of a party nomination.

But hey, don't let us Ron Paul supporters and Libertarians who decided to become allies for liberty and see the big political picture stop some of you from making sure that it's harder to have that option.

Anybody remember the theme song from Hasbro's Playskool Weebles?

Weebles wobble but they don't fall down
Weebles are around,
Don't fall down
Weeble wobble, Weeble wobble,Weeble wobble,Weeble wobble,
Weeble wobble,Weeble wobble,
Don't fall down.
Please drop dead.

Okay. Well, maybe I added the last line.

The Libertarians tell me to get a haircut...

...and now they tell me to drop dead! Stay classy, LP!

“Never think of pain or danger or enemies a moment longer than is necessary to fight them.”
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It's a wonderful world...

of wobbly weebles! :)

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:Fonta Liked It

...cuz it made me smile and remember.

fonta

Hehe...

the 70's kicked butt. Wish I could teleport back... :p

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This election is over

Guys, this election is over. At least for me. Write in Ron Paul or Vote Gary Johnson, they're both good options.

My heart, my passion, heck my money went with Ron Paul, but in the end, I voted for Gary Johnson. I do not have the passion for Johnson, that I do for Paul, but there was no real national write-in campaign, and Dr. Paul did not call for it. If but for a second I thought 10...20..30 million people were actually gonna write in Ron Paul, i'd be all over it. I do think that getting the Libertarian Party their 5% is a worthy cause. It may not end the two party system, but I think it's a good thing. Perhaps between the GOP infiltration by liberty, small (r) republicans and a much larger Libertarian party, we can overthrow the establishment?

Anyways, intelligent dialogue between the Johnson and Paul folk is one thing, the bickering and name calling nonsense is another. Neither candidate is going to win. Don't you all realize that TPTB love that we and fractured and divided? We better think way, way past this garbage election, unite around some common causes, continue waking people up and keep the revolution....the rebellion...the resistance alive.

Libertarians/libertarians have never been the

cohesive type till Dr.Paul came around. There will be others.. No need to rush to the first person that says "Be "Libertarian with me for one election! (Cause that's what I'm doing too so join me!)"

There will be other Ron Paul Libertarians that step up. We're already seeing that in local and state elections.

I guarantee you that we would have all been right behind Johnson if he had really been the real deal.

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No Need To Rush?!?!?!

Tell that to our soldiers who are dying all around the world. And also tell that to the innocent Iraqis, Iranians, Syrians, etc who suffer from our unconstitutional wars/sanctions. And if we have a currency collapse, don't you think it's important the direction we take AFTER it happens? Do you want Obamney socialism or do you want to (hopefully) get capitalism?

Yes GJ is far from perfect but he's still pretty good and he gives us a fighting chance to implement the ideals of Ron Paul (e.g. anti-war, pro gold, anti-Fed, anti-bailout, anti-drug war, etc).

In short, YES there is a need to rush!

Not for me..

Soldiers died so I could make a vote of my own free will and I choose to pick someone that's not a piece of shit.

Unfortunately Gary falls into that same turd pile so if I really love Liberty, I'll do my part and vote for someone I really believe in.

Fuck Gary and fuck you too for using such a low move. That shit doesn't work on me bud.. If anything it has the opposite effect. You Gary people are really turning out to be real trash.

I once thought of joining the LP but that has definitely changed.. You people are exactly the same as the RNC.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Waiting for the Real Deal

..."l"ibertarian.

And, I know it is going to happen. Yes, more bad stuff is going to happen. But it is never too late to do the right thing and it may have to be the "bad stuff happening" that will not only wake people up...but also wake them up to insisting on the real deal.

We create the market for that person to walk into a win situation...knowing what the people want because it is what he/she wants as well for future generations. It won't be a politician, it will be a another statesman.

Our job is to plant the field for the harvest instead of selling the farm to the plantation owner.

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Let Me Ask You This

So if a magical power came down to earth and gave you the power to choose our next president but limited you to the following options, which would you choose:

1) Obama gets re-elected
2) Romney becomes president
3) Gary Johnson becomes president
4) You choose to abstain from your choice and let the current American voting system make the decision

Basically I'm wondering if you are so anti-GJ that you serious don't see any reason to choose him over Obamney. Because if you would choose GJ in the above circumstance then you understand why many RP supporters are voting for GJ this election. In short, we know GJ isn't RP but he (at the very least) SEEMS like a heck of a lot better candidate than Obamney (and is certainly worth taking a chance on).