The Hypocrisy of Gary Johnson Supporters
Submitted by YouTube_Revolut... on Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:05http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWaHGzU02k0
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Funny thing about the Johnson supporters, they censor any mention of Johnson's name when associated with American drone strikes. I find that rather peculiar and very hypocritical. Anyone who thinks Johnson is "close" or "similar" to Ron Paul is delusional. The ugly truth is, a vote for Johnson is a vote for war. PERIOD.
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Wikipedia
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Daily Caller
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Answer=Reality-Done Deal or Monopoly Game
1) - 3) = you vote and the American voting system selects.
4) = you abstain and the American voting system selects.
Some of us have many reasons which have all been stated for "not" taking a chance on Gary and for believing that he is not even a player in this game. Others want to believe. To each his own.
At this point, I am curious about whether the name of the game is A or B.
A - The selection has been made and it is either Romney or O'Bama after much media hype, drama and political theatrics, or
B - The selection was made "for both" Romney AND O'Bama and now it is an elite entertainment event much like the hunger games. Party Poopah Pawns are encouraged to duke it out with weapons of ballot destruction of their choosing..all the dirty tricks they can think up and pull off as well as back room deals and under the table money.
If B, then two scenarios and paths have already been laid to bring into play the next plays on the chessboard. It is just an unending game unless we reach critical mass through real thinking and education.
Presidents don't make decisions...they are just really lousy PR Fronts while they shuffle the "administrations" back and forth with the "ins" in the white house doing the dirty work and making lots of money and the "outs" in think tanks doing the dirty work and free to make even more money. Meanwhile the President entertains the PR people from other countries for public consumption, plays golf, takes vacations and flies around in the world's finest airplane. Oh, yeah. And they also get a first dog. That IS the current reality of it and I don't like it either.
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4)
I'd be wary of any system where 1 single person could choose the President for an entire nation.
5) Write-in Ron Paul.
Number 5!
I'm anti-GJ because he's not the real deal. He's not fiscally sound.. He's not a Libertarian and therefore doesn't know anything about Libertarians. He's tied to Roger Stone, right now, at this very moment and his ex election helper is now a CFR'er.
He only SEEMS like it to those that refuse to look any deeper.
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No - what if Ron Paul were NOT an option
Obviously we're all for Ron Paul on this forum. That's NOT the question though. The question is - which option would you choose of the 4 listed in my post.
Are you kidding? These people have lost all touch with reality.
Isn't that clear? Ron Paul is not an option? Its MASS Ron Paul hysteria in this forum. There is no way that they will entertain even a hypothetical question where Ron Paul is not an option.
There are seriously people here who think that they can WIN California with write-in votes. They actually think this. For real.
And they will hound you here from thread to thread if you DENY the fantasy.
You are asking the wrong people.
Hi ya Jetdry, back to
Hi ya Jetdry, back to trolling are you?
5) Write in Ron Paul
Number 5!
See he is an option so blanking him out so you can get an answer you're looking for ISN'T an option.
"Obviously we're all for Ron Paul on this forum."
Inaccurate statement.
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So you're saying...
...that you would choose option 4 and then write in Ron Paul's name for your vote. That would ensure that Rombama would be back in office. Have you ever heard the line "The perfect is the enemy of the good"?
>>"Obviously we're all for Ron Paul on this forum."
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>Inaccurate statement.
I had a gut feeling you were going to nit-pick. You know what I meant.
I told you what I chose.
Now though people can see what you were hoping for by trying to manipulate an answer lol
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I Wasn't Trying To Manipulate An Answer
I wanted to see if you would take the certainty of getting Gary Johnson elected over the near impossibility of getting Ron Paul elected via write-in. You chose the "near impossibility" choice.
GJ winning is an impossibility...
stop deluding yourself.
I don't play, I commission the league.
You're Missing My Point
I know GJ isn't going to win. I'm just showing how some people fall into "the perfect is the enemy of the good" trap.
Stop the lying and double talk
"I wanted to see if you would take the certainty of getting Gary Johnson elected"
That goes for your replies to me as well.
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What specifically are you referring to?
I'm not lying or giving any double-talk. I think you're just being obstinate. Unfortunately for us both, we're NEVER going to have a candidate as good as Ron Paul ever again. We're going to have to get used to candidates who are LESSER than Dr. Paul. Gary Johnson is one of those candidate. But while he's not perfect, he's FAR better than Obamney IMO. And he's not just better "relatively speaking". I think GJ is a legitimately good candidate. He *is* for ending the wars, ending the fed, balancing the budget and ending the drug war. Ron Paul even said GJ is "wonderful" and "doing a good job".
Are Judge Nap and Tom Woods lesser?
You can't foresee the future dude.. all that shit you're spouting is an attempt to get us to give up and vote for your guy.
Ron Paul will usually say nice things about people because that's in his nature to do so.
And you know what I'm referring to.. if not go back and read your own words if it's hard to keep everything you say lined up.
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Huh?
I know Tom Woods said he wasn't voting this election. Not sure what Judge Nap said. As for my words not "being lined up", I have no idea what you're referring to. The larger point I was trying to make is "the perfect is the enemy of the good". If you were offered the guarantee that GJ (aka "the good") would win the election, would you pass that up to write-in RP ("the perfect" - or at least very near it) in the real-life election?
See that's what I'm talking about when I say
keeping things lined up... You lay out that same tired approach of "There will never be another Ron Paul" and I say to you are Judge Nap and Tom Woods lesser? You in your well honed observational skills decide to answer by speaking on behalf of how they're voting.
I never said anything about them two voting. Seriously, if you can't follow your own conversation, this is a complete waste of time to engage with you. I find it to be that way with Tickle-Me-Gitmo fans anyway I suppose.
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Judge Nap Said No To Being Considered For VP
So why would you think he'd run for president? And since when has Tom Woods talked about running for office?
Judge Nap said no to it this time around
and Tom Woods said he had thought about it. My point is.. you don't know jack shit about what's going to happen in the coming years.
I feel no need to vote for someone I don't believe in and that's a far cry from Dr.Paul when I can easily wait till someone steps up that's better than Gary and Obama and Romney.
I hear Roger Stone is going to vote for Gary.. You should at least be proud of that.
Oh and for the record.. Judge Nap was Dr.Paul's pick for VP..
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>Oh and for the record.. Judge Nap was Dr.Paul's pick for VP..
I know but he said that it wasn't for him (though he'd be interested in being on the SCOTUS). That's why I wrote (above) that "Judge Nap wasn't interested in VP so why would you think that..."
Listen, I'd be thrilled to vote for Judge Nap or Tom Woods (or Peter Schiff) should any of them run. None of them are running this year, however. Even if GJ magically wins, it's certainly possible he won't be nearly as good as (at least some of) his rhetoric. But I still would take my chances rather than have Obamney in office.
My concern is that people are willing to pass up serious improvements (balance the budget, end the wars, end the fed, end the drug war) unless they get perfection. Ideally I want perfection too. I donated a lot of money and time to Dr. Paul's campaign. But even he says that this movement is not about 1 person.
He won't end the wars.
He won't end the drug wars.. Is that thoroughly within his power anyway?
He is not for closing the FED... He pushes for an audit and anything that he might have said in the last few weeks is pandering in my opinion.
He definitely won't balance the budget..
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here is all the controversial
here is all the controversial positions of Gary Johnson gathered together. http://www.dailypaul.com/261617/who-is-gary-johnson-the-good...
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It's a good list
However, it didn't change my opinion that GJ is the best choice we've got at this point. I fully recognize he's not RP. However, he's a lot closer to RP than Obmaney are. He talks about the evils of the fed, the drug war, and the need for gold. NONE of those things are even on Obamney's radar to be changed.
I listened to GJ's interview w/ Wenzel (his first and still by far his best podcast) and I came away learning things about GJ that I really didn't like. He didn't seem to truly understand the economic issues (so, of course, how could he possibly fix them). However, at least he's open to these ideas and has some understanding of them. And I would say that would give the liberty movement (e.g. Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, etc) a fighting chance to convince him what needs to be done to fix the problems. Since the Wenzel interview, I feel like GJ has at least *talked* about the right stuff. It doesn't mean he'd be a good president of course (as I acknowledge in a previous post). Reagan's words were much better than his actions. But, again, look at the alternative. Obamney = hyperinflation, war, bailouts, and possibly NWO.
You're missing a few things.
"We need the Libertarian Party to receive over 5% of the vote so that future candidates in the LP will have equal ballot access and receive Federal funding."
Federal Funding is just another steal from the taxpayer.
and you forgot the Roger Stone GOP Hitman link now.
Oh and you forgot about his lousy fiscal record..
Oh and did you mention the Wenzel interview?
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I had never heard of Roger Stone until your post
I will admit it does seem shady. I do want to point out, however, that Doug Wead helped Dubya get elected back in 2000 by recommending he go with the "born again Christian" angle.
I found that in the book "Family Of Secrets" (by Russ Baker) in case anyone is interested.
I know a little of Weads past but to this date I've never seen
anything even remotely to Stone's past. I'm not making light of Wead because I'm watchful of him too.
There was something going on I thought when he started asking for people to email him about 3 months ago. I'm not sure what the deal was but hindsight being what it is, it may have had something to do with Jesse Benadick.
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Wow kevink
,,,I hope that isn't true. Really would disappoint me. There was always something so fake about (like everything else about him) his "born again" angle. Knew it was an angle...but gosh, not Doug. I'm going to try to find some verification.
If true, no wonder he didn't sleep well at night until with Dr. Paul.
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Thank you. Could you give me
Thank you. Could you give me the links so I can add them to this post. http://www.dailypaul.com/261617/who-is-gary-johnson-the-good...
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You're welcome.
Sure, later today when I have more time.
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Thanks rp4pres
...all VERY relevant. Glad you mentioned them again.
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