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All Hail King Christe

Do you think this governor has a right to tell private business when and who to sell gas to?

Christie Orders Odd-Even Rationing System For Filling Up Gas Tanks

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/11/02/christie-shoreline-de...

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Gas lines are short to nonexistent anymore

Still many stations are without gas or are offline, but it is slowly coming back. Certainly reduced consumption of generator fuel helps alleviate the lines with more homes being restored, along with more deliveries and stations powered up. So it's hard to tell how much can be attributed to the odd/even mandate. However, it is no longer a mad dash to the gas stations as it was last week. Folks are actually planning their usage more carefully knowing it is only available to them on certain days. I know it is counter to free market principles, but choking the demand to smooth it over time has cut down on the chaos somewhat. If you think about it, it isn't really a market intervention in the classic sense where prices or demand are artificially inflated or manipulated by the gov't. Demand is still the same and prices haven't changed dramatically. This was really a crowd control measure more than anything. And the poor guys working the pumps, well I'm sure they were happy for it. They couldn't work fast enough and had to deal with a lot of @holes. Stay safe!

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RON PAUL 2012

Nope - not one shred of authority in that matter.

And I hope stations tell him to piss off and sell like they want to anyway.

Scrape some of that lard from him, it will make good fuel to...

keep some Jerseyites warm.

Bloomberg couldn't keep the BIGGULPs away from Christie

That lard@ss will fill his car up everyday to go feed at the trough and scarf-down his 4 bigmacs.

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Bump

For Christie the commuunist.

donvino

Freedom V. Democracy

If I made the necessary sacrifices to save up for, buy and stockpile 10,000 rolls of toilet paper, those rolls would belong to me, assuming that we recognized natural law, the Bible, or the spirit of the Bill of Rights (there is one in every State Constitution). If I wished, I could throw the goods out, burn them, attempt to sell the toilet paper for $5 million per roll, or just keep the goods.

However, if a group of people got together and appointed a big guy to tell me to whom, how, and when I must sell my cherished toilet paper, we would have a democracy. Now the mob would determine the extent of everyone's rights.

So, does the government have the "right" to....?

Almost every politician sides with the law of the mob that elects them. Here it is again - "Thou Shalt Not Steal, Unless The Government Does It For You".

Gene Louis
http://www.survivaloftheslickest.com/
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A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

The reason why

Chris Christie won't endorse Romney before the election is because he wants Romney to lose. He'll be able to run in 4 years if Romney loses the election. Too bad he'll face a Hillary Clinton.

Chrisitie Campaigned for Romney For the Past Year

Christie was one of the first Governors to endorse Romney.

During the Primary, Ron Paul gave a speech in front of the NJ State House where Christie has his office. But Christie was not in Trenton. While RP was giving his speech, Christie was in the Midwest campaigning for Romney.

Last year, every "Republican" in NJ knew that they were going to support Romney in the primary. Consequently, Obama is now winning by a landslide in NJ. Thanks to Christie, there is currently no challenger in NJ who can beat Obama.

If Romney loses, I do not know how it will effect Christie nationally. But he will be re-elected in NJ with no problem.

Gene Louis
http://www.survivaloftheslickest.com/
Supporting a Needed Tool for Government Feedback:
A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

Calling all armchair warriors on the DailyPaul

Thanks for the valuable link, NJ appreciates your efforts to aid the recovery.

Christie hasn't had a wink of sleep since this storm hit and had to waste probably half a day entertaining the president so the could get his election photo op. It was "smile for the camera" or risk the normal "bureaucratic impediments" to promised federal aid. The news won't report this of course but most of us here know better. Don't even try to lecture me on the evils of federal aid, I get it. If Christie runs for gov again next year, he will win hands down.

It's really bad here, people are working hard to share their homes, as I am with my extended family. Running a generator to keep the house warm and the fridge cold gets old pretty quick, but is a blessing if you prepared as such. But now your daily fuel consumption doubles. Trips out to scout for functional supermarkets that are somewhat stocked, etc., and gas have to be planned to avoid wasting gas. And we still have to report into work and burn fuel doing so. And this is if you are lucky to have not lost everything you own to a tree smashing your house in half, or it having burned down, or washed away by the shore.

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RON PAUL 2012

Good for him

I guess its ok for him to be a dictator then and stick his hand out for FED money even though he said he was against it...

I hope YOU are doing ok and we have friends on the way to help...HAng in there

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

I've seen this story carried

I've seen this story carried elsewhere. This isn't so much rationing but instead it's distribution management.

And no Christie, it won't ease the strain of gas stations still operating, it diverts it to the next day.

So, is distribution management a good thing or a bad thing?

So, is distribution management a good thing or a bad thing?

My limited understanding tells me that it is good to have management in a crisis situation. Management is a tool. It is the wielder of that tool who will determine whether the outcome is good or evil.

Do you have any thoughts that will help me? I haven’t been part of this Liberty thing for very long…less than a year.

I think the consensus here is

I think the consensus here is it's not only a bad thing but ineffective as well.

i waited

about an hour thursday night. unlike the banks,schools and government, i have to work. i am a solid 50 miles inland.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

If people need fuel

...they can go inland further, it is not that far. Obviously people had the common sense to fill up before the storm arrived :P

If they lost their homes they need to head west imo....at least there is food and fuel there.

donvino

Most people did gas up before the storm

Unfortunately between a work commute and feeding a generator it really doesn't last long. Try it sometime.

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RON PAUL 2012

Generator?

What is the need? It is not winter. Unless people have chest freezers stocked with food, I do not see the need...just the want.

How did people survive the wars?

donvino

Your logic

It's the same as the late Sam Kinnison, when he was yelling at the starving people of Africa, to "GO WHERE THE FOOD IS!!!"

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RON PAUL 2012

HA

Good one lol

Btw, people leave a location if there are no jobs. So what is wrong with that?

donvino

Really, no jobs?

That's a long term issue that shows it's effects in terms of years (job migration), not a short term issue such as week long (and longer) power outages. Why the people in the Sudan and countries in that area don't leave is simple, there is nowhere for them to go (migrate). Similarly, many folks in NJ, NY and CT have nowhere to go or the means to get there, so they wait for the power to come back on. Meanwhile, more gas stations have come online and the lines are short to nonexistent. There are others that are still trapped as I write this in neighborhoods blocked by downed trees tangled with downed wires that are humping everything they need in on foot. Still not enough power crews to go around. Everyone's situation is different, there are no simple solutions or "one size fits all" approaches.

This is becoming circular, adieu!

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RON PAUL 2012

It's not winter, true. It's

It's not winter, true. It's also not a balmy 68 degrees at night either. The temps are dropping into the 30s. If the temps drop enough pipes freeze.

Also generators will keep your burglar, smoke, and fire alarms working and yes, one's refrigerator/freezer.

I really don't understand you, donvino.

Perhaps you weren't affected by the bad storms we've had the past couple of years or you are still young and don't have anyone in your home with serious medical issues. I don't have a generator and I wish I did but, that would be a luxury item for me right now. Instead, I was just grateful that my husband was hospitalized for pneumonia and wasn't at home during the cold, damp, days without electrical power. Otherwise, I'd have been a widow by now.

"How did people survive the wars?" Excellent question, since there isn't a war in NJ... just a serious crisis that you've properly likened to being through a war.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

My point

Since it is not a war it is not that dire.

Given the choice between fuel for auto and generator, I would choose auto in emergency.

donvino

Well great

I hope you never have to face that decision

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RON PAUL 2012

Thank you, sleepdog.

You made my point a lot clearer. Hubby is coming home tomorrow and I am hoping we still have heat after Wednesday.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I felt like a lab rat wandering around in a maze!

A simple, direct, and NECESSARY 10 minute drive was taking me an hour due to a whole lot of roads suddenly being closed all over the place because of downed trees and power lines! Wasted a whole lot of gas doing that back and forth over the course of 3 days. Otherwise, I'd have been fine with the gas that was in my tank.

Oh, and try to find a gas station in your area that is even open. Sure, drive further inland in the hopes you'll find gas and hope that the gas you have left in the tank doesn't run out before getting to the pump or that the station won't run out of gas by the time it's your turn.

It is not so easy around here. I don't know if Christie's idea is a good one or not. Maybe, if and when I do manage to find a gas station and am able to replace the gas that was wasted driving through the maze, I'll know whether or not Christe helped ease the problem with that order.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

This is Great

After this mess the GOP will have trouble pushing this pompous p.o.s. candidate on republicans in 2016. Cristie is likely toast as far as a future presidential run IMO. (I'd love to see Hannity apologize/justify these crazy decrees from a Republican governor).

Christie says:

..."mmmm, toast."

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

All this is going to do

is make the lines longer.lol If you can buy gas on any given day, in disaster situations there will be lines, but if you cut the days in half in which you can buy gas, the lines will double on those days - for there is half as many days in which one can buy gas. Common sense here, out the window in NJ.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

That's hilarious!

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The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.