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I ended up not voting

Edit: This thread was originally why I was trying to sway people to vote for Romney because it was realistically between him and Obama. I despise both men but my point was that Romney would bring a slower destruction to the US which would give us more time AFTER Romney to fix our problems. Instead people decided to vote in the greater of 2 evils again...

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It took me a long time to come to this conclusion especially after the drama at the convention where Romney and the GOP cheated their pants off. I am a supporter of Ron Paul 100% and pray he runs for President again and challenges Mitt in 2016 if he wins. My only fear is that if Obama wins there will be no elections in 2016.

So what led me to being willing to vote for Romney?

Write-in Ron Paul - my reasoning against this is the obviously fact that they simply will not count these votes. You saw how hard they fought against him and cheated in Tampa. Writing-in for Ron Paul is a great thought, but fruitless.

Johnson and other 3rd party - while I was tempted toward this at first I realize that Ron Paul has tried this (even back when politics were somewhat less corrupt) and it didn't work. A lot of political change needs to occur still for 3rd parties to be viable to most Americans. Thankfully this is starting to happen. Right now, there just simply are not yet enough people awake and realizing we are losing our freedoms for them to win. Though it would be amazing if it happened.

Mitt Romney - while I do not listen to the complete BS from FOX or CNN, etc. I do think our country and our freedoms may last a little while longer with him as President. I know that nothing will be improved with him in office my only hope in voting for him and that he wins is that the country will stay on life support instead of drifting off into complete annihilation. I know he is not good for the economy, ultimately, but business men (that listen to FOX) will start hiring again if he's President.

So why not Obama? I hope this is obvious. He is a complete socialist if not a communist at heart. He is the antithesis to freedom and liberty. Were he able ( and he nearly is) he would rip the constitution and your freedoms to pieces without any small regret. He and those who own him care only for power.

Vote how you wish. I am sorrowful that it comes to the lesser of 2 evils once more. I will look forward to 4 years from now where I will hopefully be able to cast my vote for Dr. Paul.

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Edit: I ended up having to stay home and care for my disabled wife on election day. I actually made up my mind that I would not vote for Mitt Romney and instead write in Ron Paul out of principle. Just wanted to mention this in case someone reads this in the future.



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How is letting Netanyahu run

How is letting Netanyahu run foreign policy less destructive? Please people, do not reward Romney's corrupt nomination! We must purge the dishonesty and the neocon movement from our movement.

I'll vote for puppet slave master R

because he won't treat me as bad as puppet slave master D. You sir are not part of the solution. You are the problem.

And you are a problem

if you can't think rationally at this point. I must reiterate again that the forces of evil in this country both having an R or D by their name will have one of their candidates as President this term. Vote how you wish. The only reason I can possibly consider romney is it byes the forces of liberty more time to change the hearts and minds of our nation so that, God willing, we can have a decent President next term.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Romney and Obama are walking,

Romney and Obama are walking, talking monuments to megalomania.

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why you vote for romnie (or obombya or gitmo gary)...

because you gave up on fighting for the truth, that's why!

you gave up on America, that's why you vote for the lesser of three evils...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

You are very wrong

the only reason I can rationally consider Romney is because it gives the US a bit more time for Ron Paul or a future Ron Paul to emerge and have a chance. Any logically person at this point will realize that either Mitt or Barack will be President this next term. I don't like it, but it's a fact. Time to face reality and change it. You need to face the truth. The truth that this country may be beyond saving and WE THE PEOPLE have to get it to where it needs to be. That is happening. Slowly, we will win and a Ron Paul will be President, but that time is not quite now, unfortunately.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

I see you have a...

...Scripture verse as a tagline. Great verse. I think you should re-read it before you cast a vote for Romney. And, while you're at it, read the following verse as well:

Reject every kind of evil. ~ Thessalonians 5:22

I agree

But go ahead and down vote his and my comments. No need debating on a site that has been consumed in believing that its members are worth a damn in an actual election. Vigilant and I are working to fix and rebuild this country, and in order to do this is to put Rand in the best position possible. If Romney is good, Rand gets his ideas and budgets put into law. If Romney sucks, well Rand or someone runs against him-or a third party coalition between libertarians and tea party conservatives arises.

We all lose if Obama wins. I live in the sucky state of Ohio, and I have passed buses acting as paid shuttles for the Democratic Party-shuttling the lazy and ignorant who want other peoples money to the polling booth, with lunch provided.

Your the one who is very wrong

let me explain, Romney being elected puts a false savior in office, one who will prolong our suffering, perpetuate the spending and illegal wars, one who will be loved by many sheep and allowed to commit Obama's crimes all over again simply because he is not Obama. Ron Paul said it himself, we need to stop now and let the pain start already so it can be over sooner and we can start recovering. What you are sanctioning by voting for Romney is the continued suffering of us all.

If Obama was re-elected at least most already see him as a snake, it also means either he can get nothing done because everyone hates him and he has a republican congress to deal with or we start weeding out the snake which are the liars and fakes that are the republicans in congress that will be forced to side with Obama openly because they could not get Romney in office.

You are still not awake if you think there is any significant difference between establishment republicans or democrats, your just another perfect example of cognitive dissonance.

The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare

There is no 'savior' politically speaking

Ron Paul was really the one hope and the closest to savior for this failed political system we are entangled in. I agree that there is no real difference in either party. But how was I wrong with what I said? Romney is the lesser evil thus he will do less harm than Obama if ever so slightly. You talk about Romney doing all these things (which I don't doubt), but Obama will do worse. Also, we have more hope for continued liberty with an R president over a D currently because it would give hope (however false) to business and there would be slightly more hiring than we currently have. You say I'm not awake, but I'm more awake than you are. I realize that-though it might be a strong message to send the establishment by voting 3rd party or writing-in RP-they will not care to pay attention to it. We need to continue to fight and change bad R and D politicians into liberty R and D. It has to be done from within and Ron Paul understood that. I'm starting to understand Rand Paul a little bit, though I'm still unhappy with him.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Sorry but your wrong

I have already explained how Romney will be worse, you are choosing to ignore what I said.

I will say it one more time, If we get Obama again he will have to content with a republican congress who will fight him tooth and nail OR we will see the snakes come out in open support and we can start clearing our fields.

If we get Romney he will do just as Obama has done but he will have the support of congress and blind sheep letting him get away with it just because he is not Obama.

If you can not see how that is MUCH worse then your eyes are closed.

Oh and do not bother trying to defend Romney being better because Obama will get to place two more judges because It was a so call conservative judge that sold us out. The judges have been compromised for a long time.

Romney will be FAR FAR worse for us. Obama would unite us to stop him even as more wake up to how bad he is. Romney we get a viper who MANY believe to be a savoir just like those who believed in Obama.

So you can choose to Ignore what I have said, but it is the truth and you know it.

The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare

Willard is so power-hungry...

that his first act would probably be to end term limits.

I don't play, I commission the league.

You say probably

but its a sure thing Obama will do just that. Romney MAY do a lot of evil things but Obama is SURE to do them. I hate it very much but the lesser of evils is still bad, but better. It gives the country and forces for liberty a bit more time to save whats left.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Really?

I don't. Obama has mostly seemed tired this election cycle, like his heart isn't in it. I don't think he'd even consider a third term.

Obama's instituted some bad policies for sure, but deep down, I don't think he's nearly as much of a power-hungry, sociopathic zealot as Willard. I think he's been brainwashed by the people he surrounds himself with. Meanwhile, Willard is like a robot who's only focused on getting power. He creeps me out big-time.

I don't play, I commission the league.

I think Obama is much more power hungry

and has not even begun to implement the core of what socialist/communist agendas he has in store for us. Agree to disagree.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Have you SEEN Willard's campaign?

He still doesn't even have basic plans for what he would do in office and the election is days away! His entire campaign has been about bashing Obama and saying anything to get power. At least Obama can articulate ideas, even if they all suck.

Don't get me wrong, I wish neither of them would win, but one of them is going to this year, and I'll take 4 more years of Obama and a Ron Paul victory in 2016 over the alternative.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Ron Paul could

potentially challenge a POTUS Romney in 2016 and win. By then, with plenty more woken minds, the support may be overwhelming. And, by then, the liberty forces, politically, will have grown up some. I know Romney doesn't have a plan, at least not one he's mentioning, but I consider that slightly better, if laughable, compared to what we all know Obama might do-ie, eliminate term restrictions and become Dictator Obama. I don't think Romney would do that, at least not in term 1. So, with Romney, we have more time to plan and achieve victory for this country.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

There is...

zero chance of anyone challenging an incumbent and winning. Ever.

I don't play, I commission the league.

If that happens

it happens either way. With Obama or with Romney. And one of them will more than likely be President this next term unless there is a miracle. It is probably the end and the end times. What matters more than anything are souls being saved.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Imagine

a few days after the election IF Rmoney wins...and he announces his new secretary of state...John Bolten. There is your Rmoney vote and your reality check. Still wanna vote for Rmoney?

You fail to understand.

"Writing-in for Ron Paul is a great thought, but fruitless."

tptb will know exactly how everybody voted. That is their business. Whether you believe the write-ins will be counted or not, or publicly announced or not, they will still know.

That is why it is CRUCIAL that we maintain COHESION. We MUST show them that our numbers are growing and that we will NOT back down. Now and in 2016. There is a concerted effort to break our movement up. It is obvious on this forum alone.

I am writing in Ron Paul, because I finish what I start. And I mean what I say.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I agree

we must not back down and we must not back down in MANY ways, but the Ron Paul write-ins will be just another list to them they are accumulating for execution. That is not why I have decided to not write-in Ron Paul, I do not fear execution at this point, lol. I'm sure I'm on some list somewhere from all the hundreds of petitions and what-not I've signed. The point is not that they know. The point is that they don't care. We have to change this country in many different ways. I just have something different in mind - keeping the US on life support with Romney for now is far better than certain annihilation with Obama.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Consider this:

romney gets in. There is no way that we will defeat an incumbent romney in 2016. He could run and win again. Say romney does or does not win reelection. 2016 or 2020 will be the democrats turn, adding another 4 to 8 years. This could push us back AT LEAST until 2020 or beyond. It is an ENDLESS CYCLE that must stop.

obama gets in for 4 years while we build our numbers. This nation will be on its knees. 2016 we can at least have a chance.

They both have the same record and owned by bankers. It is when this cycle stops that I am concerned about.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

and you are not in prison!

I shake my head.

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ecorob's picture

you are such a stupid...

dumb ass!

i love seeing the way you destroy yourself...

you will not be missed!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

I gave you an up-vote, but be

I gave you an up-vote, but be prepared to get blasted...heh.

I agree. From a prepping viewpoint...Romney buys us more time. Silver and gold will likely drop short term if he's elected...just what the serious long term stacker likes to see. It will probably take Romney 1 year to get familiar with the office of the POTUS, 2 years to start to screw things up, and then he starts campaigning in year 4.

Obama on the other hand...another 4 years of destroying liberty and freedom right out of the gate. He'll have no consequences to his actions as he won't have to run for re-election. Don't forget his little comment to the Russians...about being a little more flexible after the elections. WTF?

I said I'd vote Gary Johnson, but have since changed my mind. I'll likely not bother voting...but Romney will be a 'shoe-in' in my deep dark red state.

I know a lot of people consider Romney and Obama the same. I do in many ways....but one thing is certain...the Obama administration takes fraud and lawlessness to an entirely different level.

P.S. We also MUST get rid of Obamacare. That law is a horror show. Spend a few hours digging into it and you'll see why.

One more thing...while Romney says he supports the NDAA, I really don't believe he specifically means he supports the indefinite detention clause. Let's not forget it was Obama who demanded that provision and is fighting tooth and nail...defying court orders...to keep it in tact. While I don't think Romney will be a great friend to liberty....again, I still believe the Obama administration takes fraud, deceit, corruption, etc. to another level.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Thank you for the up vote

for me, I first wanted to write-in Ron Paul and touted this on many forum posts. However, after the convention it became plain to me that the GOP and those that control the GOP and DNC would not allow the write-ins to count. I thought about GJ, but ultimately the same would come of that. The only way GJ could win is a landslide where the vote could not be hid. Then I came to the ultimate realization. We cannot allow Obama in the White House... and no matter how hard Mitt cheated a vote for him is a vote away or to cancel out a vote for Obama; even though both are evil men, Romney's destruction of the US will be slower and will allow for some improvement when he's out. Obama will indeed destroy our freedoms as we know it.

I wish it were different and Ron Paul were the nominee. I would for the first time in my voting life be over joyed to vote for someone.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

ecorob's picture

you havn't learned a god damned thing...

have you?

you are such a waste!

"no matter how hard mitt cheated", you say, you will vote for him anyway...

lets just say i see things differently!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

You fail

to realize the logic in the current situation that is our voting/elections system. Ron Paul even says you have to work with what you've got: i.e. why he switched to Republicrap. Well, we are either getting Obama or Romney. I don't like either of them, but we have to work with what we get and change it how we can.

Let me ask you a very simple question. Would you like to win over supporters of Obama and Romney to Ron Paul's side of Liberty, Freedom, sound money and the Constitution? Then if so (I would hope) how can you do that when you put down a fellow Ron Paul supporter? I mean...really? If you can't add anything of worth to the conversation please don't say anything at all.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.