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Tom Mullen: Support for Kill List and NDAA Make Both Romney and Obama Unfit for Office

by Thomas Mullen

TAMPA, November 2, 2012 – It wasn’t so long ago that the following statement could only appear in a dystopian novel or movie script:

The U.S. President has killed an American citizen without due process, without even charging him with a crime. His decision to do this has been challenged by members of neither party.

While the media-fueled frenzy goes on about how supposedly different Romney and the conservatives are from Obama and the liberals, no one even raises an eyebrow about this terrifying political development.

Not even the left, which quite correctly howled at passage of the Patriot Act and the Bush administrations’ other assaults on freedom.

Bush and the Republicans committed egregious crimes against liberty, but did not go near this far in violating the even more important right to life.

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I don't think the public remains silent because they are numb...

...to the exercise of arbitrary power.

I suspect many Americans, if not most, tolerate the kill list, just like with Gitmo, because they think the targets are the stereotypical ~muslim terrorists who are out to kill us~. So even if not Constitutional, they tend to tolerate it.

And while the public sits back thinking that it's all about ~those muslim terrorists who are out to kill us~, the kill list is becoming institutionalized, entrenched, permanent, and expanded with a clever new name of "disposition matrix".
http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/24/its-not-a-kill-list-its-a-...

What most people don't realize is that what the government's idea of an extremist or terrorist is has expanded far beyond that muslim terrorist stereotype.

We only have to look as far as things like the MIAC Report, the Phoenix FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force pamphlet, or the DHS right wing extremist report a few years back, to see that even people such as Constitutionalists, veterans, supporters of certain presidential candidates including Ron Paul, are suspect. Even preppers are being targeted by the gov't.

Since transparency is something our gov't doesn't seem to think applies to them, it is doubtful that we'd know if we are on the kill lists or not.

But even for those who think they'd be exempt from the lists, they better hope these kill lists are handled a lot better than the atrocious no fly/watch lists where an 8yr old cub scout, an 18 month baby, and even singer Cat Stevens have had problems.

MIAC Report http://www.prisonplanet.com/police-trained-nationwide-that-i...

Phoenix FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force pamphlet http://www.welfarestate.com/pamphlet/

DHS right wing extremist report http://www.wnd.com/2009/04/94803/

Gov't spying on preppers http://theintelhub.com/2012/03/20/fbi-homeland-security-caug...

Great !!!

So we just sit here and accept your anology and say oooohhh! thats too bad. LET'S TALK SOLUTIONS...DO YOU HAVE A SOLUTION. WE ALL KNOW THIS STUFF, BUT WHAT IS THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION..."WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT" ?? Suggestins...???

James

Up to you, but I think exposing/educating is a key...

...just as Tom is doing with his writing.

So when I'm talking with people I try to share this kind of information.

I was speaking with a coworker recently about the "disposition matrix" and this person didn't even know about the kill lists at all, let alone about the new expansion or that BOTH Obama and Romney are in favor of the unconstitutional and diabolical kill lists.

As more people become informed and aware of what is going, it may at least make things more difficult for the powers that be.

Someone posted a video here the other day of Luke Rudkowski from We Are Change confronting a politician about the kill lists. The politician tried to dismiss him, but as they are confronted more and more about these kinds of things, it'll be harder for them to dismiss.

Look at Ron Paul and the things he's been talking about, as with the auditing/ending the Fed for example. Wasn't long ago that people were deemed to be kooks for talking about it. But now others are coming around. Same with foreign policy, 9/11, and other issues.

Some are more politically oriented, some make videos, some go to protests and marches, some write about what is going on, some are more confrontational(as with the Luke Rudkowski interview), etc., and that's all fine. To each their own. Everyone does not have to be doing the same thing. We all have our roles. But as I said above, I do think exposing/educating is a key.

Hope that helps.

It's important to know that Citizens are killed "Unofficially"

We have definitely moved to a new and very dangerous level where the government now OFFICIALLY kills U.S. Citizens without due process. However it's important to know that the government has for years (and up to this day) assassinated U.S. citizens Unofficially. The whole Benghazi affair is likely to be an example of that. Joel Skousen (a top government corruption expert) broke that whole situation down in an interview just two days ago showing why the government may have purposefully ensured that the Ambassador be killed. It's a compelling argument. His analysis starts at 26:05 here:

http://www.infowars.com/how-to-survive-apocalyptic-events-wi...

For those of you who choose to watch the whole interview (highly recommended) you'll note a strange recommendation as to to how to vote depending on which state you're in. It was at the end of the interview and time was short so he wasn't able to elaborate at all. So to be fair, I'll quote what he said in this past Friday's newsletter in order to put that in context:

"...The election itself is turning into a major contest between good and evil and I have received numerous email pleas from conservatives around the country—concerned that my negative assessment of Romney (the non-insider who is pandering to the establishment) may do great damage to the country by helping re-elect Obama, giving us four more years of disaster.

I will concede that Obama will do a lot more direct damage to liberty in the next four years than Romney. His Supreme Court appointments will be arch liberals and corrupt lawyers who hate the constitution. He will attempt to push through UN treaties devastating to property rights and gun rights—not to mention his attempts to pass some international tax on all financial transactions – all of which will be tough to stop.

The “benefit” of this kind of evil in the White House is that good people will be more energized to fight. But if Obama succeeds, it may be too late for that increased fighting spirit to do much good or turn things around. And, we may have already passed the point of no return.

The kind of damage Romney would do is somewhat different. Even though not a dedicated globalist, he gives every indication that he will follow his neocon advisors into giving us a much more aggressive foreign policy, which will take him deeper into the globalist war agenda, even if he isn’t knowingly aware of where this is leading. Worse, he will succeed in talking a lot more conservatives into thinking these wars are just and good. They are not.

But, there is a chance—and this is what worries the PTB—that Romney might see too much illegal activity in the government and, like JFK, move to stop it. Then he, like Ronald Reagan, will face an assassination attempt.

Of course, the warpath Romney is treading will bust his ability to make any cuts at all in government deficit spending. But even without war, no president is going to have the votes to significantly cut government spending anyway—not even Ron Paul could do much outside of the president’s direct control—though he would at least veto the worst types of spending. Romney, at best, might lessen the growth of government, but the media will fight him tooth and nail on every issue and even foment social unrest in the streets if he succeeds in passing anything really damaging to their agenda.

As for Romney’s Supreme Court appointments, they will be more “moderate” than Obama’s but his advisors will push him to nominate controlled “moderates.” Always remember that the Senate has always been the big roadblock to a constitutional reform of the Supreme Court. It will never confirm the appointment of a true strict constructionist—someone who will reign in government and limit unconstitutional expansions of power. Romney has already admitted he won’t even try to reverse the abortion killing machine and the court precedents that sustain it.

I’ve always felt that if the dark side of government and media is going to shove globalism down our throats in both Republican and Democratic administrations, then it’s better that a puppet Democrat-president like Obama do it and get the blame rather than a moral Ronald Reagan type that will blacken the reputation of everything a Republican president is supposed to stand for. Under a compromising Romney, conservatives, Christians, and Mormon-Christians who hold that the Constitution is inspired of God, will suffer part of the blame for having supported him.

On the other hand, it is so painful to watch Obama’s cocky, controlled and smirking speaking style, his blatant lying about his Christianity, his wife’s defiant disgust for all things American, and manner in which the media worships his every move, I can’t help but think all of us long for a change.

I have long been committed to not vote for the “lesser of two evils” ever again. However, due to the unique circumstances of the current electoral battle and the tenacity in which the PTB are trying to re-elect Obama, I’m going to modify slightly my election recommendations.

I still think it is important, in states where conservatives will dominate, to send a message to the establishment that we won’t vote for either of the two major parties, which they control at the highest level. We must eventually get a more principled third party to become viable in the US, and the only way to do that is by voting for them in larger numbers.

I know many are planning on writing in Ron Paul’s name, in protest, but that won’t help the third party cause. You can help Ron’s cause better by voting third party, as Ron himself will do. In safe Red states a vote for Romney will neither help nor hinder, as our numbers are relatively small—so you don’t have to worry about “wasting” your vote or jeopardizing a Romney win by turning your vote into a protest. It sends a stronger message to the establishment to vote for a the Constitution or Libertarian Party candidate that has gone to all the trouble of getting on the ballot than to vote with the Republicans. The PTB are very worried about keeping a third party movement from becoming viable and we have to break that lock.

My personal support will go to the Constitution Party who is running Virgil Good for president. In some states, Will Christiansen is on the ballot for either the Constitution or the Independent American party which he heads—he’s a good friend and a faithful constitutionalist as well.

But I also think Gary Johnson of the Libertarian party is a pretty good candidate on most issues, and has a good track record in New Mexico. I personally can’t vote Libertarian due to their positions on abortion and gay marriage, but I think it’s an acceptable alternative for people who are in states where the Constitution party isn’t on the ballot.

In blue states, where the liberals heavily dominate, your vote for Romney won’t do anything one way or another either, so choose a third party to help increase its showing and stay on the ballot. If they don’t get a certain percentage of the vote during an election, they have to go through the arduous petition process to get on the ballot the next time.

However, in closely fought swing states (Colorado, Nevada, Iowa, Ohio, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida), I’m going to recommend that people vote for Romney—not because I think he’s going to save us, but to make a maximum effort to thwart the establishment’s attempt to put Obama back in office via election fraud—characterized by the massive registration of non-citizens, the court’s denial of a state’s right to demand voter ID, and outright electronic altering of the vote tally.

I’m so mad because of all the manipulation I’ve documented in the past year, I’d really like to see the rigged election process fail. The kingmakers are limited in how much they can alter the vote tally as compared to exit polls which are usually very accurate. If they fudge the tally for Obama more than about 10% they raise huge suspicions of fraud—which they are reluctant to do. They actively fear people seeing conspiracy in action. ..."

If after watching this you'd like to delve into it further and see Joel's complete analysis of Benghazi in this past Fridays newsletter you can get a free copy of the entire thing by going to his web site and asking for it (highly recommended):

http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com

-Bloatedtoad

Devils

These devils in office ( Romney also ) could care less about the lives of those living in other nations, nor the lives of U.S.citizens, nor the lives and welfare of the troops who serve this nation!

I think this is pretty obvious by now to most.

They are cold and heartless!

Life to them is nothing! It's disposable ( as long as it's not their life or their posterity).

The enemy has shown their face!

Stay in prayer everyone, and call upon Him who alone can deliver us from these abominations!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

" In Thee O Lord do I put my

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Amen. Good psalm quote.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Here's more of this timely word, in context

. In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust; let me never be ashamed:
deliver me in thy righteousness.
. Bow down thine ear to me; deliver me speedily: be thou my strong rock, for an house of defence to save me.
. For thou art my rock and my fortress; therefore for thy name's sake lead me, and guide me.
. Pull me out of the net that they have laid privily for me: for thou art my strength.
. Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.
. I have hated them that regard lying vanities: but I trust in the LORD.
. I will be glad and rejoice in thy mercy: for thou hast considered my trouble; thou hast known my soul in adversities; And hast not shut me up into the hand of the enemy: thou hast set my feet in a large room. -Psalms 31:1-8

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

NO Executioner's Office

Anyone who would assume such arbitrary power over life and death during their office, or campaigns for that power under the guise that they ought to be better trusted with such; deserve our open contempt at best, and no vote at least.

The fear of other policy issue consequences notwithstanding; if we concede on this point alone, we make ourselves the willing prey to either of these would-be predators.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Think About This

If a private citizen had a "kill list" they would almost certainly be branded a terrorist and could be indefinitely detained, tortured, etc all without due process of law. But because Obamney wear a "government suit" (to steal a phrase from Lew Rockwell), they get to do it legally.

no better than hitler or stalin

because it enables the goverment to do what was done under those oppressive regimes and the only way to stop is now is to fight back against it.

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You sound like Stalin.

TRUTH:

"A vote for Obama or Romney on November 6th is worse than wasting your vote. It is surrendering not only your liberty but your very life to the discretion of the all-powerful state. It is accepting a station even lower than a slave’s."

Great Article!! Thanks for posting!!

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Thanks

Kill the big brother NAU NWO police state!

Vote Gary Johnson Judge Jim Gray!

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All over this article. Sharing it far and wide.

Thanks for producing. AGREED 1000%.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

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The Kill List is a list of people that the executive branch has designated for assassination. I am not surely how any "law" could be more immoral. The NDAA, National Defense Authorization Bill, as of January 1, 2012, has given the power to the executive branch to indefinitely detain anyone. In both cases, the bills were passed because it gives the executive branch more power and less hassles of due process to target potential terrorist threats to the nation, as determined by the executive branch and coordinated intelligence gathering. These are the two most strikingly unconstitutional provisions that are the sequels to the Patriot Act. I hope people realize that the war on terror is not a war with an end. There will always be people who want to see America fall, especially due to the very actions taken by the executive branch to fight this war, namely, drone assassinations and the collateral damage that comes along with it. According to Osama bin Laden, the reason he terrorized Americans was due to the occupation of Saudi Arabia holy ground. Since our foreign policy involved policing the world and nation-building, arguably we have made less friends with the world and more enemies. Those who live by the sword will die by the sword. This is a Scriptural, undeniable truth. We cannot assassinate, torture, occupy, intimidate, and bully our way out of the truth. So when you vote this November 6, first recognize exactly what you are saying "yes" to. Bush Patriot Act, Obama NDAA. If regular Americans do not speak up, do not complain when the above powers are abused. And I would argue that they already have been abused with the indiscriminate collateral damage and even the targeted killing of a 16 year old American city who happened to be the son of a bad father.

The ONLY good thing about Romney as opposed to Obama is that

if Romney wins, the press will be all OVER him about things like NDAA and drone attacks.

Obama gets a free ride on EVERYTHING controversial and as a result literally gets away with murder.

My experience has been that the

Republicans in general only watch Fox News, and they will all be Romney's cheerleaders, no matter what he's doing...

LOL

I'd watch something besides Fox, but I can't stand watching the libs blathering on with their ideas on how to force their version of morality on everybody else. At least Fox will throw in an economic number here and there. That being said, I get 99.9% of my news off the internet now.

Have you ever considered

a subscription to The New American Magazine? Full color, constitutional, well-researched, excellent resource for news delivered twice a month to your doorstep. Or you could just go to the website and read it all for free :-)
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