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I oppose government mandated GMO labelling as it is not a libertarian or fiscally conservative position

The federal government lacks constitutional authority to mandate labeling of products containing genetically-modified food. Furthermore, those who do not wish to consume genetically-modified products should be leery of federally-mandated labeling because history shows that federal regulatory agencies are susceptible to 'capture,' where the regulators end up serving the interest of the business they are supposed to control. In the case of labeling, federal agencies could redefine the meaning of 'modified' to allow genetically-engineered food on the market without fully-informing consumers of the presence of genetically- engineered ingredients. Instead of federal regulation, consumers should demand that manufactures provide full information and refuse to buy those products that are not fully labeled. Once producers see there is a demand for non-genetically-engineered products they will act to fulfill that demand.

EDIT: As of right now (which is only 14 hours after making this post), I am down voted -7 and have a number of negative comments below, including one which is very rude. This is despite the fact that what I have written above is a direct quote from Ron Paul himself. I think this just shows how much so many people oppose Ron Paul's words when they don't apppear to be coming out of Ron Paul's mouth.




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The way I see it is,

Monsanto is a creature of the government. Period.

If not for the government giving Monsanto special privileges, they wouldn't be so rich and powerful... Heck if not for the government they probably wouldn't even exist!

So since their entire business model relies solely on the government giving them special privileges, then they should be subject to any government force.

Bottom line: If a company's entire business model relies on the government and/or taxpayers, then I have ZERO pity for them... I hope they all get bullied by the government and go out of business.

So Mandating truth in advertising is not Libertarian?... Sigh!

Since when is lying with impunity a libertarian principle? This is not just a free market debate this is about causing harm. Monsanto and the biotech industry are harming people and the planet with GMO Engineering and are on the verge of causing a catastrophic break down in the food supply.

They have already polluted the entire planet with PCB's with the manufacture of roundup they are in all of us and even found in Artic animals. They bought off inspectors government agents and politicians while they ran chemical waste in local water ways where the round up plant was and people fished in kids played in etc. Many are dead now they lost a suite and got fined is all, why are they still in business they have killed many people...

Truthful labeling is a natural law and as libertarian as it gets and Monsanto should be out of business and their executives in prison for the roundup fiasco alone... And idiots are still buying round up and spraying it on their fields and yards... Sigh!

This is one area government should actually be involved its called defending against domestic enemies and promoting the general welfare...

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Perfectly said

great comment!

Roundup is also being linked to autism, they are telling pregnant women not to be around where roundup is being sprayed.

Back in the 60's autism was 1 in 10,000 births now 1 in 200, Roundup hit the market in the early 70's.

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No, it's not libertarian to mandate much of anything

Lying with impunity? Who are you asking? The label? Seriously?

If a business does not tell you that they aren't GMO, and you can't trust them, don't buy the product if that's what you require. If you believe that a company is unethical, raise awareness about it. It's your job as a member of a community in an at least somewhat capitalist society.

Businesses will adapt to consumer demand, and you can raise consumer awareness just like you can raise political awareness. I say if there's a free market solution, use it.

Why don't you grow your own food and get some chickens and goats? Buy non GMO seeds if that's what you fancy.

So its not libertarian to

So its not libertarian to mandate by law that you cannot shoot stab or kill or otherwise murder people?... Sigh!

Geeze ignorance abounds!

This is not about free choice of products genius this is a criminal matter. Let me put it to you another way. If Monsanto starts shooting people randomly you don't say gee we should not patronize that company anymore because we dont like them shooting people...

They are poisoning people and harming people and idiots here are acting like this is just a matter of choice in buying a product or not... Amazing!

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Murder=\=GMO; Free market please.

Sure, it's libertarian to mandate against murder, but murder and selling GMO without a label are not similar acts in any way. When you murder somebody, you are initiating force. When a company doesn't label, this is a choice that initiates force against nobody. When the government insist that a company label, they are initiating force, because force is the same as the threat of force, and without the threat of force no law has any power. In order to enforce their mandate they have to be willing to use force to do so - first they punish with a fine, but if you don't pay the fine you go to jail, and if you resist jail or resist arrest, you might be killed. Not to mention, the act of detaining somebody against their will is violent whether it can escalate to more substantive physical harm or not.

I'm sorry it makes you emotional, but I do not believe that GMO harms anybody, and even if it did, I would not agree that this makes Monsanto or other GMO companies necessary to blame for every sort of harm that can arise from their product. The overwhelming majority of empirical evidence suggests that GE products are safe for consumption, identical to the product they clone, and simply the logical and inevitable application of science to agriculture.
Saying no to GMO, in my view, is the same as saying no to the invention of the car as a superior form of travel to the horse, or saying no to the modern touch screen cellphone in favor of a rotary on a land line. There are trade-offs in everything, and I don't buy into the GMO scare. I would much prefer to go with what science and demand brings us to, than what some impassioned people acting through the government with a mandate accomplish. If we had a completely free market there would be no such mandate, and I say work toward that ideal.

Of course they are related!

Of course they are related! Just because you and millions of others are ignorant largely because you are lazy and have been subjected and succumbed to a million dollar campaign of lies does not make me emotional or change the facts in any way...

Idiots want to make this some libertarian philosophical debate when people are dying maimed and we are on the verge of a catastrophic failure in the food supply... Sigh! No Wonder the liberty movement can't accomplish shit!

GMO's are proven harmful and Monsanto is a proven liar and criminal. Just because people are ignorant does not make it any less criminal. This issue is not a matter of belief it is a matter of fact in harming millions!

http://www.isis.org.uk/Excess_cancers_and_deaths_from_GM_fee...

http://www.naturalnews.com/037249_GMO_study_cancer_tumors_or...

It's a criminal act! It is poisoning people and the environment. Even an anarchist society will act collectively to defend itself from harm against a common enemy. It is one of the few legitimate tasks of government no matter how informal government might be...

It's not a free choice issue millions are being willfully criminally harmed with impunity. They don't even know they are being poisoned and fed disease causing organisms how the hell can they make a free choice?

The biotech industrial complex should be rounded up and tried for attempted mass murder, destruction of property, and malice and hanged!

We don't have a free market so the only option is to use the current government to force these criminals to at least inform people...

You can't selectively apply some free market principles in a little corner of a socialist interventionist society and expect it to work like it would in a true free society. So we have to do the only thing we can to protect ourselves with what we have to work with

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Mandating an affirmative act is NOT libertarian

Prohibiting or constraining fraud or misrepresentation IS.

No one has time for the WHOLE truth, and the RELEVENT truth is often highly subjective.

I should have, perhaps, identifed myself as a GMO before any procreative liaisons, but I already understood that Busy Body and Drama Queen were GMOs themselves. In fact, we all share the latest modification, traced to about 50000 years back in the Caucasus: blue eyes! So I guess that makes us all cousins.

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A carrot is a CARROT. If you

A carrot is a CARROT. If you try to sell something that isn't a carrot, and you try to say it IS a carrot, then that is false advertising and should be ILLEGAL

I agree

But GMO carrots are identical to carrots.
If not, that would be like saying that a sheep clone isn't a sheep. What is it? A legume?

The police have better things to do than to regulate the death out of every product. We should just be responsible as individuals. If you don't trust a product or a business, don't make a purchase. Be an activist about it, raise awareness, but there's no need for government action.

Are you stupid? How can you

Are you stupid? How can you make an informed choice when you don't know which carrots are GMO and which are not? That is the point of labeling so people can make an informed choice. There is a reason Monsanto spends millions to ensure they don't have to tell anyone their food is GMO...

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I still see no need for government action

I trust the people at my farmer's market and can get non-gmo carrots from them.
Also, I can get non-gmo seeds and grow my own non-gmo carrots.

I agree that the point of labeling can be to inform. That doesn't necessitate that the government force companies to label in any particular way.

Ideally, the consumer wants the most information before they buy a product, but in a free market there is no requirement that you purchase any particular product. If you don't like carrot X, you don't have to buy it - you can buy a different carrot, a carrot from a different store, or even a different vegetable altogether. If you think that the products in a particular store aren't what you want, go to a one that caters to your demand, be it organic, non-gmo, whatever.

One of the main problems with labeling for GMO though, is that it will potentially cause a scare and a boycott. The majority of people don't have an unfavorable view of GMO, because they aren't educated or indoctrinated into any particular vein of thought. However, if there were labels that tried to scare people into not consuming GMO products, it would be as other labeled products, creating a stigma among those who buy them. Even if their price is lower, GMO products would likely be perceived as unsafe. I'm sure you'd like for that to happen because you're an activist on this issue, but the evidence is against you - GMO is widely considered safe. Causing a scare and making a cheaper product seem unsafe when it isn't, is unethical and anti-market.

GMO's are proven harmful and

GMO's are proven harmful and Monsanto is a proven liar and criminal. Just because people are ignorant does not make it any less criminal. This issue is not a matter of belief it is a matter of fact in harming millions!

http://www.isis.org.uk/Excess_cancers_and_deaths_from_GM_fee...

http://www.naturalnews.com/037249_GMO_study_cancer_tumors_or...

It's a criminal act! It is poisoning people and the environment. Even an anarchist society will act collectively to defend itself from harm against a common enemy. It is one of the few legitimate tasks of government no matter how informal government might be...

It's not a free choice issue millions are being willfully criminally harmed with impunity. They don't even know they are being poisoned and fed disease causing organisms how the hell can they make a free choice?

The biotech industrial complex should be rounded up and tried for attempted mass murder, destruction of property, and malice and hanged!

We don't have a free market so the only option is to use the current government to force these criminals to at least inform people...

You can't selectively apply some free market principles in a little corner of a socialist interventionist society and expect it to work like it would in a true free society. So we have to do the only thing we can to protect ourselves with what we have to work with

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Why is non-gmo labels are not allowed

If your really for free choice then a company should be able to put a non-GMO label on their product without Government intervention.

Problem is we don't have a FREE MARKET!

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some products do

have non-gmo labels. there aren't very many, and i can only find them in health food stores, but they do exist.

the non-GMO project

has such labels www.nongmoproject.org although they can't say GMO-free because of the FDA (see my post above)

you oppose "mandatory" GMO labeling

me too because it clearly violates the NAP.
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I up voted your post and am surprised by the number of downvotes

But I will be voting yes on 37, anyway.

Just Because government is destined to fail - that is not enough to justify not acting to protect your neighbors at the state level.

Well lets go have some GMO sweet corn at

Walmart! Raised for Walmart by Monsanto!

In the Midwest the Monarch Butterflies, bats, bees, and many song birds are disappearing! Most of the population are too ignorant to realize what is happening, they love the fact there are less mosquito's!

Beekeepers were able to keep their combs for up to 20 years, but now 3 years! How would you like it if a 40% tax was put on your income over what you now pay. This is what Monsanto and farmers have done for us beekeepers! Don't ever become a beekeeper!

Why is it illegal to label a product non-GMO? Monsanto is the reason, they say no GMO labeling what so ever!

I guess the fascist frank-en food company Monsanto is the only one that can really be called Libertarian LOL!

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Wow...

I'm shocked at all the non-libertarians who have infested the Daily Paul. The OP is completely right about this.

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This is the Daily Paul site -

This is the Daily Paul site - not the Libertarian site. Ron Paul draws people from all parties (not just the libertarian party) because of his strong anti-(non-declared)war stance and his economic views.

Small-L libertarian.

All Ron Paul supporters should be theoretically libertarian, right? Small government, sound money, non-interventionism.

There's a big difference between that and big-L Libertarian, i.e. a member of the LP.

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Tenth

The Tenth Amendment allows California to do whatever it chooses with regard to labeling GMO food. Also, products that are not GMO already sometimes label themselves as such. Congress can also regulate commerce between states. Whether or not that power includes keeping poison out of food crossing state lines or at least labeling the presence of such poison is a matter for discussion.

The best way to stop the GMO crap if you're that passionate?

Free-market protest. Government coercion is morally wrong and easily corruptible. How many times must this be proven before people wake up?

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I up voted as well why the

I up voted as well why the hell are people for more regulation let the markets figure it out

GMO Crops Should...

...be illegal! Educate yourselves. The FDA is the right arm of Monsanto. The could care less about us...its all about the money. One day the cattle will wake up and stampede their ass!

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YES ON 37 TO EXPOSE THE POISON!!!

UP YOURS!!!

You oppose it because you are a CYOP in OPPOSITION OF FREEDOM!!

You hate people and are part of the culling of the world for the globalists. You love GMO food and NON labeling because MONSANTO food is cancer, poison and kidney and heart failure to those who eat it. YOU ARE THE ENEMY OF MANKIND!!!!!!!!

And Monsanto--killers that they are--will be honest if this law

is passed? you gotta be kidding!

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So...Ron Paul is the enemy of

So...Ron Paul is the enemy of mankind and a CYOP in the opposition of freedom?