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The People Have Spoken, And They Want Ron Paul!

It's been an exciting last few weeks here at the Free and Equal Elections Foundation! We hosted a debate with Larry King on October 23rd, and have another one tomorrow night! While we have an awesome panel of media correspondents lined up, (Thom Hartmann from RT, Amber Lyon formerly with CNN, Sam Seder from The Ring of Fire, Matt Welch from Reason Magazine and Maytha Alhassan from Al Jazeera) we're lacking that one Really big name that will really create a buzz and send this event viral - and our supporters have overwhelmingly asked for RON PAUL!


If anyone reading this can send a direct word to Dr. Paul and let him know we'd love to have him moderate this debate, please do! We've been trying to get word to him through our various degrees of separation and have heard nothing back so far, which is why I've made this post, so please help us kick the Commission on Presidential Debates to the curb! Dr. Paul's involvement in this debate could easily help do exactly that!

To those of us who don't have direct contact, help us make sure his staff sees this request!


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gairie who?

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

reedr3v's picture

Zak, you are a great activist. The idea is excellent.

As in 2008 Dr. Paul could bring factions together for the critical issues of Liberty and Peace, and he'd focus the debate on those and the issues of most importance. No one could do the job better. I wish someone could bring this to his attention.

For those who think this is beneath Ron Paul

Why? He was heavily involved in trying to bring attention to third-party candidates in 2008. This isn't about the worthiness of any of the candidates, but rather an attempt to bring about public awareness.

ecorob's picture

I think you attempt to mock or discredit...

Dr. Paul!

The man who should be potus is asked to host a debate for clones to be potus?

Shockingly disgusting.

I hope you get the cold shoulder from the good doctor.

We, the people want Dr. Paul as our President and not as some game show host going to commercial.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Yeah, shame on me

For wanting to give Ron Paul the opportunity to be in front of a lot of cameras...where he could let millions know he's a write in candidate...

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egapele's picture

Agreed. Hey, why don't any of you just

drop everything and run as the Libertarian candidate for president and let us know how that worked out.

Guess what, Ron Paul went there and did that.

It was a **FAIL**

He said so himself.

Can't y'all just learn from his mistakes?

I'm not asking

Anyone here to support or vote for Gary Johnson..or Jill Stein for that matter. I'm doing this to help put a few chinks in the Commission on Presidential Debates armor.

If you think the Commission is a good thing, you really need to read up on them.

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egapele's picture

Didn't mean to sound so harsh -

I believe at the time I posted my comment most of the active threads were glorifying Gary Johnson and I was frustrated.

Who knows, I may even vote for him tomorrow if I don't write in Ron Paul. For sure, I won't be voting for Romney or Obama.

Thanks for all the hard work.

I wholeheartedly agree that

I wholeheartedly agree that Dr. Paul should be president...but, since he is not running, how would it be a bad thing for him to be involved in an event looking at the alternative options?

Paul never said "don't vote for me"

should provide a clue to what Ron Paul supporters should be doing.

"society could go in a thousand directions as to how it would exist and how it would be, but the public mustn't know that. The generations must believe that the one that they're born into is naturally evolved."-Lenin/Alan Watt/cuttingthroughthematrix.com

ecorob's picture


1) the "alternative" options SUCK

2) its beneath him...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

even if the other candidates

even if the other candidates arent perfect (and please for the love of god don't turn this into another johnson vs paul debate) third parties do, and always have brought up issues that the major candidates won't talk about...im not gonna pretend to know what dr. paul thinks about the debate, but he'd definitely support discussing alternate issues that the MSM or obamney won't talk about...

It Would Not Be The First Time

...Dr. Paul has been invited to participate in something that was not in his best interests.

I do not understand these tactics. Are they well-meaning? How could they be? I didn't get it the first time...I don't get it now.


As much as I LOVE RON PAUL - the people DIDN'T say that.

We were robbed to be sure - but fairly or unfairly the people didn't say that.

And all the denial in the world doesn't change it.

BMWJIM's picture

Government Employee

And a Pawn!


1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

ecorob's picture

yeah, fatguy, they said it...

6 months and, also, 4 years ago Ron Paul was pulling in numbers far greater than romnie is RIGHT now and YOU know that or you are just ignorant but, either way, its still the truth.

The people DID want Dr. Paul but were cheated.

So, accept that fact. Elections have not been accurate in this country for a long time.

Ron Paul IS the people's choice.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

You have no idea how much it hurts when you call me fatguy.

I mean, me being 6 foot 2 inches tall and 195 pounds - how did you know how grotesquely fat I am?

My waist is a hideously huge 34 inches.

Oh, but if you write-it in it must be true, right?

Just like Ron Paul being an actual candidate.

See the parallel?

You WISH...

the people wanted your unprincipled, anti-life, pro-drone, Fed-shill, CFR coattail rider of a candidate.

I don't play, I commission the league.

ecorob's picture


You nailed it, PIMH!

Ron Paul

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

I dunno where did GJ say that he wanted Drones

But I am willing to bet that most people here supporting GJ over Ron Paul is because he is the LP nominee.

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

ecorob's picture

i'm guessing its somewhere right in between...

indefinate detention (keeping gitmo open)

and, "we need to keep the troops over there protecting us"...

you fill it in wherever you think is best, just somewhere right in there

just sayin'

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Without Asking Themselves

...what exactly does the LP stand for right now. And I suspect that he has very few actual supporters. The LP has hardly come over to this blog in droves to convince Ron Paul people of their high principles and just why they "selected" Gary Come Lately to define their party in a totally non-Mises manner.

A faction of the fractured LP "selected" Gary in much the same manner as both Romney and O'Bama have been "selected" to play a role.

With today's choices I have to stand for someone I believe in. No my vote doesn't count...but at least I stand for something which gives me motivation to be part of the change that has to happen and it has more chance of happening by voting for a revolutionary message than it does with any of the three choices.

To me, that is making history. I'm voting for a message I believe in and grateful to be able to do so. It is the first time in my voting life I have ever believed in and voted for a message whose time has come. Let the candidate follow in years to come while we spread the message for him in advance.


They are supporting him because of

laziness and refusal to take a serious in depth look at him.All the evidence has been presented that most of the stances he has taken are horrible.
Lesser of 3 evils is what Gary is.

They are all licking their chops over that 90 million and supposed legitimacy they think they are going to get when really they are just dividing what
Ron Paul laid out for us which was to take over the GOP.

All a bunch of weak minded/principled fair weathered people IMO.

Gary Johnson is not going to get 5% of the vote nationally

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

I Concur!

Taking BACK the GOP, Johnson will be lucky to get over 1% of the votes.

I sometimes think the Johnson supporters are like my Obamney friends who refuse to look at their records. But to be fair, I cognitive dissonance probably has a lot to do with this, and Johnson are a lot better than Obamney(at least on the surface)

The reality is, getting the Libertarian Party 90 million wouldn't guarantee an advancement for liberty. There's also the local election, state, congress... and so on. As well as the inevitability of Bandwagon hoppers taking over the party, if the lobbyists wanted to take it over.

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

Some Posts Seem to Indicate

...that "our" Gary contingent believes that one issue pot smokers in six states are registered voters, know Gary after his minimal campaigning and are going to abstain from being stoned (not the Roger kind) on election day.

If he gets more than 1% I would be surprised. If he gets 5% I will be convinced it was orchestrated for a reason. But I am not holding my breath.


It COULD be because he is an ACTUAL CANDIDATE, who is

actually running for office.

Not a NONcandidate - who is only being considered for a silly write-in-campaign that he never said he wanted.

Lets see - on one side we have a REAL CANDIDATE from a REAL party.

On the other we have a pretend write-in-campaign that could never work in a national election, a man who never asked for this, and a bunch of people who can't accept reality.

Real or pretend fantasy - which one should I choose?

Hard to choose either way

Hard to choose either way when your head is in the sand:)

Yup, chomping at the bit to

Yup, chomping at the bit to get their hands on taxpayer money. How any libertarian can justify profiting off the backs of the people with money taken by force is beyond me.

Blessings )o(

I've asked this before and

I've asked this before and I'll ask it again. Is the fund no longer voluntary? Because in the past it was the one voluntary thing on the tax return form. And as such, that money was not taken by force.

You do get that the $3 contributions are entirely voluntary


If you don't check the box - $3 doesn't go into the fund, but your taxes don't change.