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Video Update: Third Party Presidential Debate - Gary Johnson vs Jill Stein

Link for debate replay thanks to artistsforRP

http://youtu.be/h4HJBE62IzI

We're going to do something a little different with this next debate! We asked fans of the following media personalities to submit questions for Gary Johnson and Jill Stein, so it's kind of like we have 6 moderators!

Thom Hartmann - New York Times best-selling author, entrepreneur, political commentator and the host of The Big Picture.

Sam Seder – Comedian, writer, actor, director, producer and political talk host of the Majority Report and co-host of Ring of Fire Radio.

Amber Lyon - Emmy Award-winning investigative journalist, filmmaker, photographer and former CNN reporter.

Maytha Alhassen – Journalist, writer, editor and University of Southern California Provost Ph.D. Fellow in American Studies and Ethnicity.

Matt Welch – Award-winning journalist, musician and editor in chief of Reason magazine.

Christina Tobin - Founder and Chair of the Free And Equal Elections Foundation.



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The r3volution just whipped out it's Dick

I didn't get that before. I do now... He made a really good point in his closing statement about mainstreaming the libertarian party by getting 5% of the vote. I will be contributing to that percentage tomorrow. The whole GMO labeling thing can be argued both ways. It's a big government solution to a problem that probably wouldn't exist if not for big govornment.

Law and liberty cannot rationally become the objects of our love, unless they first become the objects of our knowledge.

James Wilson

No No No

You got it wrong.
The Revolution just whipped out its Johnson.

Colchester, New London County, Connecticut

no no no NO!

*crosses lips with index finger* ...shhh

Ive been in denial of that particular reference ever since I named my son...

...Holden! :D

GJ

AGW?

Pretty sad.

donvino

ron paul statement on food labeling of gmos

"The federal government lacks constitutional authority to mandate labeling of products containing genetically-modified food. Furthermore, those who do not wish to consume genetically-modified products should be leery of federally-mandated labeling because history shows that federal regulatory agencies are susceptible to 'capture,' where the regulators end up serving the interest of the business they are supposed to control. In the case of labeling, federal agencies could redefine the meaning of 'modified' to allow genetically-engineered food on the market without fully-informing consumers of the presence of genetically- engineered ingredients. Instead of federal regulation, consumers should demand that manufactures provide full information and refuse to buy those products that are not fully labeled. Once producers see there is a demand for non-genetically-engineered products they will act to fulfill that demand. Of course, makers of genetically-engineered food should be held legally responsible if they fraudulently market their products or harm anyone."

jhon

Correct

The point really is forced speech is not libertarian. No speech is
really speech!! As Rothbard/Mises similarly say the lack of Action is Action! So the lack of claim NGMO means it is probably from GMO.

Only when the lack of a warning would put someone in clear and present danger should a warning be labelled or be posted. Even then government is not really required. Most manufacturers learn through market practice that without warnings they can be sued. These kinds of warnings or laws arise naturally and are part of common law.

One important technical salient teaching point remains. The definition or description of NGMO must contain a disclaimer like <5% GM otherwise the claimer can be sued for a small percentage of product that are GM due to Monsanto seed. Definitions always create law on the market. All ownership requires a description (as in a receipt or title) or definition to create clarity of ownership. These deeds or receipts can be used as currency and usually held in a vault in safety. These held assets can have a detailed descriptions of the owned property so if stolen or if said property is damaged or stolen they can be used by the owner to sue for loss.

shisaracyndi

Not a Wasted Vote

I just got done watching this debate live on RT. I thought it was very good, just like the last one with Larry King.

Very refreshing to see candidates talk about the real issues...no matter who you agree with, it's debates like this that matter.

Just remember, a vote for a third-party candidate is NOT wasted. It's your vote. Vote for who you think will do the best job.

It would be incredible to see some serious third-party numbers this election! Send a message. Screw the two party monopoly.

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Let's get that 5%!!!!

Let's get that 5%!!!!

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Appreciated, artistsforRP.

I missed the live coverage. Watching this now.

Some disappointments

Well, finding out Gary believes in anthropomorphic climate change is disappointing, but at least he won't do anything about it federally. His view on GMO label mandates is really disheartening. It's essentially supporting the force of the state to interfere with the marketplace because you like the result. The ends justify the means, in other words.

Still gonna vote for him over the others.

It was the state that fucked

It was the state that fucked us over letting the FDA approve these GMO foods without testing. Forcing Monsanto to tell us what we are actually buying isn't messing with the marketplace. If I sold apples with razor blades in it, that's fine.... as long as I tell you that razor blades are inside of it. If I choose to buy gmo foods,thats my choice, but I should at least be told what is what. that is just fair. How can the free market system work, if you dont know what you are buying? This isnt like telling me that McDonald's is fattening. GMO foods are as secretive as can be.

"It was the state that fucked

"It was the state that fucked us over letting the FDA approve these GMO foods without testing."

Exactly. So why aren't you looking for a solution to -this- problem instead of trying to squash the symptom? Why aren't you choosing the liberty solution (stripping the FDA's power) instead of the statist solution (mandates)?

I see food labeling as a form

I see food labeling as a form of contract between the seller and the buyer so the government should enforce that contract and not let the seller cheat on the buyer.

What contract? A "social"

What contract? A "social" contract? No thanks. The only contracts I am a party to are the ones I've signed personally.

The government protects monsanto...

And since they protect them by not allowing people to know what they are eating - the free market isn't going to be able to work as it normally does. Take away their power to hide what they are selling you and the problem of this big government protection is null and void. It's another way of getting around big government....in my opinion. The alternative of eliminating the FDA is a much harder road to go down to get the same result.

"The government protects

"The government protects monsanto..."

You've just painted a valid target. Instead of using the force of government to get your way, why are you not trying to repeal it's abuse of force?

WOW

Strong closing statement by Johnson.

Jury Nullification is a power of the last resort against tyranny.

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Gary J: Great STRONG convincing

final statement. May he get far more than 5%! I am glad that many libertarian thoughts RonPaul brought forth during the 2008 & 2012 campaign seasons are still debated forcefully through Gary J :-)

This debate was worth it

Really good discussion even though Jill Stein is a statist. She has her heart in the right place, but the road to serfdom is paved with good intentions

2 Chron 7:13-14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Free Ponies for everyone!

Is Jill Stein also going to promise a free pony for everyone?

I remember heavy metal-head Alice Cooper had promised a free snake for everyone when he briefly ran for governor of Arizona in late 80s.

Immoral funding of Military Industrial Complex by Federal Reserve and US taxation system must stop!!!! End illegal/unconstitutional wars! Preserve US currency!
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Free pony, free healthcare, free college degree

I'm in!

Not really

Law and liberty cannot rationally become the objects of our love, unless they first become the objects of our knowledge.

James Wilson

I want a free pony

vote Vermin supreme for President and get a free pony! He would be a much better choice than Romney!

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Surviving the killing fields of Minnesota

Todays brainwashing: GMO's are safe

Did someone say

Did someone say PONIES?!?
/insert MLP pictures here

You're all

my very best friends.

@WeMckay

Incredibly....

Jill Stein has yet to offer free puppies to everyone who votes for her, she's just about offered everything else for 'free'.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com


"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Puppies are cuddly, puppies are cute...

they're never nasty or mean...I'd give a home to all the lost puppies, If ever one day I were queen.....(The Miss Akmetha song, Puppies, from Veggietales. Do we cat people get kittens? Even if so, don't think I'd accept it.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

climate change is a hoax

More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
Scientists Continue to Debunk Fading “Consensus” in 2008 & 2009 & 2010
(Updates Previous 2009 U.S. Senate Report: “More Than 700 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims”): https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/400467/original/2010_Sena...

jhon

"As a failed gubernatorial

"As a failed gubernatorial candidate with no political experience, I'd spout off all kinds of crazy crap about a green new deal and free education for everyone!" - Jill Stein