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Doug Wead: A Mitt Romney Win?

“The time will come when the constitution and government will hang by a brittle thread and will be ready to fall into other hands but this people, the latter-day saints will step forth and save it.”

- Joseph Smith, May, 1843.

If history is any indicator Mitt Romney will win tomorrow’s election. Yes, the polls show it close and the electoral map actually tilts in President Obama’s favor but never before in history has a president been returned to power with such a dismal economic performance.

1.) Unemployment has remained high.

2.) The housing crisis remains untouched, crushing the middle class. Even the smallest tweaks expected by the real estate community within 90 days of the inauguration of Obama have been consistently ignored for the full four years.

3.) Real inflation is appalling and has robbed the poor and the retired on fixed incomes. I say “real inflation,” as opposed to the new government-media revised fake figures, redesigned to help rescue the failing presidency of George W. Bush, figures that now exclude food and oil prices, the two most basic factors in our economic lives.

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No

Not at all

Perhaps you are right. It was my impression that he is.

My observation was related to the questionable list of egregious accomplishments that he saddles Obama with that add weight to the "anyone but Obama" meme, including this one:

8.) Under Obama we have seen the collapse of the Fourth Estate, once a powerful force of its own in the checks and balances within society. The national media is now run by corporations and corporate advertisers, all dependent directly or indirectly on zero percent interest loans from the Federal Reserve, which is mounting a ferocious fight to keep its deliberations and monetary awards secret.

This was not Obama's doing. The controlled media have been such for at least a century and Romney's Bain Capital owns the talk radio hosts Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and others.

Both Obama and Romney are puppets and the one chosen by the shadow government will win. Given that Romney apparently started oiling the wheels of his campaign with donations to Party organisations in 2004 and given the ruthless and unethical way in which he won the nomination I came to the conclusion that he was the chosen one this time around.

Doug has given all the other boiler plate reasons to not re-elect Obama but these are just a smoke screen that he surely by now realises have no bearing on who is elected.

On the other hand it may be that he IS being ironic and in that case I apologise for my cynicism. It would have been quite natural to row back into the comfort zone he was in for so many decades but maybe his conversion to reality is strong enough to keep him outside the camp.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Bush got reelected...

...so anything is possible.

Sorry. I replied in error.

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"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

i agree

after witnessing bush win in 2004, then I wouldn't be surprised either way.

this is why updown voting is not very functional

commentary that adds value but causes you to say 'i hope this person is wrong' becomes downvoted - when it should be interesting reading material.

this unification of voice creates an echo chamber where only feel-good BS becomes acceptable.

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Perhaps unfair to Doug W's fine opinion piece, BUT, yup,

I'm adding my instant negative reaction vote of "I hope you are WRONG, Mr. Doug W" ;-)

The CHEATING BishopRomney does not deserve to be our president.

It won't give a scintilla of honor to many truly upright mormons.

add

It was -8 when I wrote that. Now that the article in question is on the front page it will cause people to upvote it regardless of their actual take on it.

People's tendency to appeal to authority ('ah, this article passed the moderator's sniff test') will cause more upvotes which will make my first comment obsolete.

Reality Check: Perception

Newt Gingrich couldn't even carry his home state of Georgia. Why is this important? The Republican Party is still split in the aftermath of GW Bush, no matter how much you want to gloss it over. The majority of the public are unwilling to trust another Republican president after Iraq and Afghanistan. Despite the thought that voters are clueless and brainless, many voters are aware of the White House scandals under Barack Obama, including Fast & Furious, but rationalize them with the idea that the president may not have even known about them.

To top it off, Obama has the northeast corridor and the west coast cut off from Romney. It doesn't look like Romney will flip Florida and there is even a chance that Romney will lose Ohio, although cronies and a family relative have direct ties to the eVoting machines in those states. For Romney to win, he would have to sweep the south, and also win a northern state outside of Mass. He may not even win Massachussets given its Democratic leanings in the past. He has completely lost the woman vote with his "binders full of women" comment. He repeatedly takes credit for education and healthcare overhauls in Mass. that he did not initiate and were left for him by Ted Kennedy. His record there shows that his vetoes were overridden by the legislature numerous times, and as a governor, this is a sign of weakness and a complete inability to work across the aisle.

What you are going to see on election day is the entire east and west coast go completely blue and Romney will win the midwest/Bible belt. Its unsure how far Romney's strength even goes with Christian evangelicals due to his weird Mormon beliefs, which are out of touch with mainstream Christianity. Those who will want him to rule the government from a Christian bully pulpit will not find an answer in Romney.

Romney's biggest campaign enemy has been himself. He has constantly changed his story around, radically, indicating he has no core beliefs, and will say and or do anything to get elected. In this case, the President has actually shown that despite his increasingly liberal agenda, he actually is serious about the direction he wants to move the country in.

Do not expect any states on the east coast to flip to Romney at all after Sandy.

Remember that Romney has to win the entire south + an additional northern state outside Massachussets with enough electoral delegates to beat Obama, who has solid control above the Mason/Dixon line. If Obama wins even one southern state, he will have enough electoral votes to solidly win the election. There is no question that Romney will lose the election, no matter whose side you are on.

Romney has shown a sort of blind ambivalence about American foreign policy, even after debating Dr. Paul for an entire year on the subject. Looks like the GOP was hoping he could win Pennsylvania and some other eastern corridor states while also picking up the south. Statistically it doesn't look like there is any way for him to win, absent election rigging. There are still rumors circulating that the Bush dynasty did have machines rigged in New Mexico and Arizona and that when the Gore camp fund out he conceded to get out of politics.

Make no mistake that the entire thing is a mashup -- the attempt by Republican legislatures in several key battleground states, earlier in the election cycle, to pass voter suppression laws, was extremely disparaging. With Romney resorting to robo calls as far as Washington state, I don't think he stands a chance. Obama has a solid foreign policy card when it comes to protecting American interests by withdrawing forces, albeit slowly, while I think Paul Ryan buried them in the vice presidential debate by disputing the idea of a 2014 Afghanistan troop withdrawal, and by this demand for a status of forces agreement in Iraq.

This seems to indicate that the Romney camp would prefer that our troops remain with an occupation force in these countries, indefinitely, even going so far as to raise the ire of the Joint Chiefs with their weird comments.

The idea that romney getting

The idea that romney getting elected would do anything to save the constitution is laughable. He is nothing but the figurehead of a criminal organization and in favor of continuing every policy now in place that violates the constitution and infringes on our liberties.

Exactly! Mitt Romney = The Bush Family Gangsters & Company.

Exactly! Mitt Romney = The Bush Family Gangsters & Company.

Please, for the next 24 hours send this link EVERYWHERE:

Thanks In Advance ♥

http://www.dailypaul.com/260875/ron-paul-revolution-the-writ...

Wisdom Strategies

Many Mormons I know agree that Mitt Romney is a horrible man...

I have many clients that are Mormon and used to work at a firm run by two partners that were Mormon and all of them agree that Mitt Romney is a slimeball and someone who disgraces their religion.

Romney is quite possibly the most terrible person to ever run for office as a GOP candidate. He is the face of crony capitalism and corruption and embarrassment to this country. He is not just "mean spirited" he is a malicious sociopath.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

BRAVO! Mormons For Ron Paul 2012!

BRAVO! Mormons For Ron Paul 2012!

There are good people of loving, kind hearts and principles in All Faiths. I know what The Mormon Church Is Under A Disguise: Freemasonry.

Most Mormons don't know that, but that does not matter at this moment.

Please share this with them:

http://www.dailypaul.com/260875/ron-paul-revolution-the-writ...

Wisdom Strategies

Right...

you "know" it because you saw a video of someone talking about it.

Anyway, Freemasonry aside, LDS Liberty is a huge group, and LDS for Ron Paul is big, too. As a member of the LDS Church, I can tell you with certainty that his beliefs conform SO TIGHTLY with our doctrine that Ron Paul might as well be our prophet.

I may be ignorant of Mason-ness, but not of my Paul-ness.

Peace.

I agree--

those Mormons who support him do not know the truth about him--

they are hanging on to a star, and it's not the right star--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

As we know, it doesn't matter

who wins. Romney will do as he is told, and he already knows it. Anybody who has listened and watched him know that he will walk down the same street as Obama. The only difference, he will not be as blatant and the people who voted "anybody but Obama",will quietly go back to sleep. But we won't. We know we cannot afford to.

We are in another war for our Independence.

Another excellent blog post by Doug Wead

and more reason to consider getting rid of the whole upvoting/downvoting system.

Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.

And it's everywhere

We are expressing opinions. I don't like to see someone get upset. To me, we are all learning.

We are in another war for our Independence.

Mr. Doug Wead: WE ARE THE RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION.

Mr. Doug Wead: WE ARE THE RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION.

We are THE TRUE RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION PRESIDENTIAL STRATEGISTS.

We Are The Grassroots Who Created THE RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION.

We Are The Ones Who Paid The Official "Campaign" Salaries, Including Yours. We did not get paid: We Financed The Ron Paul Presidential Campaigns 2008 - 2012.

I am a Professional Strategist, Sir. So are my friends who have joined me.

Thank You, Grandfather ♥

If The Democrats Win - Better Than The Neo-Cons - This Is THE END Of The Republican Party. Cheers!

You Are A Historian, Correct? Well: You Are Watching History In The Making.

RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION 2012

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I dont effing get it!!!!

Seriously.... At this point I REALLY want Romney to get put in just to further show that NOTHING will change, things will continue down the same path they are now and get worse with more wars and a total economic breakdown which is ineviatble no matter which candidate gets in tomorrow. I say "get put in" because we need to STOP buying into the charade that the vote will matter tomorrow. We are at the point in the electoral process where the powers that shouldn't be HAVE gained control over every aspect of elections!!! We know this so why keep playing the game!?!?

They choose the candidates, they fund they bullshit campaigns to manage public opinion and they design all the issues to make it look like there is a difference when there of course is not. They put in electronic voting machines which they fully control for one purpose only -> to control the vote. There is ZERO other purpose to have electronic machines in there. When people bring up voting machines, they always forget the one most important question: why do we need those machines in the first place?

I like Doug Wead and I believe in him and that he is awake and on the right side. But what I don't get is why the games here!? Why jump on the bandwagon of "too close to call" or "I think he will take it" or "will he follow the constitution more or less".............

THE CANDIDATE IS CHOSEN BY THE POWERS THAT SHOULDN'T BE ACCORDING TO WHERE THEY FIT IN THE LARGER PLAN!

The #1 thing that needs to be done to fight back this corrupt system is to stop participating in it! Don't vote, vote GJ or write in Ron Paul and then focus your attention on furthering your own education, educating and waking up others and prepare yourself and your loved ones for when the SHTF. Work with others! Collaboration is the key to a better world for ourselves and finally and most importantly, grow your consciousness.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

What difference does it make?

Either way we are screwed.

skippy

Doug, I respect you, but I totally disagree with your assessment

Traditionally, the guy who's ahead in polls two weeks after the conventions wins the election. I don't think this rule's been broken for 100+ years. The recent debates don't matter at all; by that point most people have decided and are just rooting for "their guy".

Also, I'm surprised you (Doug) didn't note this since you paid such close attention to the primaries, but in many states Romney actually did WORSE than he did in 2008. Amazingly, Romney actually becomes LESS popular as his exposure goes up.

Finally, to quote someone in the stratfor emails that leaked awhile back: "Romney? No way. Morman." The media love to softball Mitt on his religion (while simultaneously stoking flames that Obama's a muslim, how's that for a double standard?).. but much of the country is more biased against Mormanism than the media represent.

Obama's gonna win. Calling it now. I'm unhappy about it, but only marginally less unhappy than I'd be if Romney won (and the establishment GOP didn't earn a lesson to learn in backing a fake conservative like Romney).

you're incorrect....it's the

you're incorrect....

it's the guy who by mid October has 50%+ polling according to gallup.

That would be Romney...52-45% over Obama by mid oct and still over 50% today.

www.unskewedpolls.com

the liberal rag polls are giving Dems a +7 to +11 advantage in turnout. The crazy fu$%s think they will see 2008 style turnout when obama beat old man McCain. It's laughable.

Repubs. will take a +6 and landslide for Romney.

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2012/11/05/Why-the-Polls-...

America still loses either way...that goes without saying. I'm just keeping it real for everyone.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Welp, whoever wrote that Breitbart piece is wrong.

I generally don't trust that site, let alone Breitbart himself.

And keep in mind the level of voter intimidation and suppression in several key states (especially Ohio and Florida); Obama's victory is DESPITE all these treacherous moves by the republicans to make voting a privilege and not a right.

Romney never stood a chance. The media hyped this race as if it would be close because they (the media) aren't necessary unless everyone thinks it's still up in the air. I don't think it ever was.

The people who want "stuff"

The people who want "stuff" showed up and voted yesterday.
One thing is certain...I didn't waste my time voting.

I don't like Bill O Reilly, but he summed it up perfectly last night. There has been a demographic shift in the US. The number of people who expect things to be given to them by the govt. is now over 50%.

The country is doomed, as is Europe.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Betcha $10 paypalbucks

:)

I'll take that bet!

I'd rather bet a friendly beer, but might be impracticle. I'll bet $10 Romney wins. I think you guys are looking at the wrong stats. Polls don't matter because elections are rigged. Here are the stats that matter:

Goldman Sachs $994,139
Bank of America $921,839
Morgan Stanley $827,255
JPMorgan Chase & Co $792,147
Credit Suisse Group $618,941
Wells Fargo $598,379
Deloitte LLP $554,552
Kirkland & Ellis $496,722
Citigroup Inc $465,063
Barclays $428,250
PricewaterhouseCoopers $421,085

If there is one thing I've observed about Wall St, its that they know how to win in politics. If Wall St is betting Romney will win, then so am I.

I'd be down for a beer if you're in the LA area.

About a month ago I did hear that a lot of donors were beginning to switch to congressional races, figuring Romney's kinda screwed.. he's had so many gaffes at this point that I'd be blown away if he won. XD The famous 47% line.. man, you don't fuck with your bottom line like that! And old people are practically all the establishment GOP has left to vote for them...

It's not like either of us has any attachment to either of those goons.

well, you won.

I was positive it was gonna be romney.

it's all good

I'm just happy the GOP has paid for its treachery to its own constituency, not to mention its malice towards its victims of voter suppression/intimidation/election fraud, who still persevered to vote for who they thought was right..

And hey, there were some good wins in congress. Paul's pal Alan Grayson won out. Elizabeth Warren won.. personal preference. Phony tea partier Alan West lost, and so did corrupt-as-shit Lieberman. Marijuana nullification in Colorado and Washington, and medical bills in two other states. Gay marriage rights defended or enshrined in four states.

Presidential stuff aside (and including my state's props), it wasn't a bad election.