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Who will help me?

I want to know how we can start collecting the 50,000 signatures needed in Oklahoma to put a 3rd party candidate for president on the ballot in 2016.
Sucks that the dem and repub don't have to do this!




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Revisit This Issue In a Few Weeks

after the election and people have had a chance to recuperate from the adverse effects of 2012. ;)

I will repost on Wed.

We can hope that GJ gets the 5% he needs to get the Libs on the ballots next time around.

Formerly rprevolutionist

LP candidate can be on all ballots

If GJ gets 5% of the vote tomorrow.
LP will receive a major party status.
Ballot access in all states and $90 million for the 2016.

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the Libertarian Party was

the Libertarian Party was once known as the party of principle and so they refused matching funds.

lawrence

We need those funds!

Dems and repubs outspent the libs 1000 to 1. Hard to compete if you are invisible.

Formerly rprevolutionist

still, the claim to fame of

still, the claim to fame of the libertarian party in the '90s was that although they qualified for matching funds, they would not accept them.

I don't know what has changed. They started bringing in someone like bob barr, who voted for the patriot act, and then they brought in gary johnson who wants a v.a.t. tax.

so i just have to thank you guys for killing principle in the name of pragmatism

lawrence

You have to have the money to

You have to have the money to compete!
When your opponents have big donors (the money... the banks backing them) you have to be able to have the ability to get some air time!

Formerly rprevolutionist

back in the '90s it was a big

back in the '90s it was a big deal that the libertarian party didn't take matching funds, so i'm just wondering what happened.

the party went to a candidate who voted for the patriot act and now it's the flat tax with johnson, so i'm wondering how easy was it to make a decision that it's imperative that the libertarian party should go ahead now and accept matching funds?

lawrence

i'm sorry, i'm just going to

i'm sorry, i'm just going to make one more point and that is the libertarian party elected a guy (bob barr) who voted for the patriot act and now johnson is a guy who said he is for a flat tax. obviously Gary Johnson didn't read Libertarianism in One Lesson by David Bergland, a book i recommend to all those people who call themselves libertarians and still support a guy who favors a flat tax. And for those people who favored a man who voted for the patriot act as well.

So i'm saying when you accept matching funds, the libertarian party will only be one issue away from just being like the democrat or republican party. The libertarian party has been corrupted that badly.

lawrence

hmm

Both Bob Barr and his VP left the LP and endorsed Romney.
LP purified itself of the war loving scum.

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Harry Browne refused matching

Harry Browne refused matching funds in '96.

My Uncle however did witness him play devil's advocate and ask his advisors why he couldn't accept matching funds.

But with that being said, it is unprincipled for the third party to do this. I was a teenager who grew up among the Libertarian Party when i could summer with my uncle, and i must say the Libertarian Party is going downhill with the likes of Johnson and his support of the flat tax. This is very sad to see the neophytes corrupt this party. And "Matching Funds"? My God, people.

lawrence

I understand what you are saying.

But when the dems and repubs can spend 2 billion on their campaigns the libs need a little help. How can we break away from the 2 sided coin and get someone else in the debates? And on the ballot?

Formerly rprevolutionist

Getting that 5% will be a

Getting that 5% will be a challenge! I hope and pray it happens!

Formerly rprevolutionist

I pray as well

In couple of national polls GJ was getting 6% and 5,6%.

Good news if that 6 states have marijuana initiatives and GJ can get lots of votes there being the only one in support of these.

60 million online poker players will also help GJ because he is the only candidate who wants legalized online gambling.

Last but not least the 2,1 million who voted for Dr. Ron Paul in the GOP primaries -- if 80-90% of them vote for GJ we should make the 5%.

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No one?

No one?

Formerly rprevolutionist

Thank you from me

--for all your work.

Oklahoma ended up as the only state with Gary Johnson not on the ballot -- and not allowing write-in for GJ.

Michigan at least has GJ as an official certified write-in candidate.

Sister in Liberty there not a day when I not think about this horrible injustice.

I remember one of your posts here on DP in which you told some woman in a store that she has a third option GJ (woman was thinking there are only two candidates)

Enjoy your evening.

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Thanks LL

You and I have butted heads, but with the GJ issue I am with you 100%. Oklahoma should be ashamed!
(p.s. my son voted for Gary!)
I really need and want help to get the libertarian candidate on the ballot in 2016!

Formerly rprevolutionist

We had some fights in the far away past

I am happy we came together.
It means a lot to me that our fights turned to friendship.

Wonderful that your son voted for Gary.
I remember he was in the past rejecting Ron Paul -- so this is great news that he finally woke up to the Liberty message.

Oklahoma looks to me as a corrupt "stalinist oasis"....

The next 24 hours will be hard for me.
GJ needs this 5%.
Liberty Movement needs this 5% for GJ so it continues to grow and does not start to become a graveyard of sorts.

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The next 24 hours

or 24 days (depending on lawsuits filed) will be hard on all liberty loving people.
I am hoping (not wanting) for a landslide for the worst president in history.
Let the gop rot in hell!

Formerly rprevolutionist

OK then

never mind!
What will the choices be next time? Jeb, Hillary??? ok.

Formerly rprevolutionist