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Well everyone, this is IT! Election day. Did you vote? Was it crowded? What did you see / hear / observe? Please post your news, updates and insights below. If there is a specific issue you'd like to address, please feel free to start a new thread, but first check to see that it hasn't been posted already.

Thank you everyone, for everything.


Poll: Romney 49, Obama 48
Rasmussen has Romney at 49%, Obama trailing by 1, and 2% for everybody else (Libertarian, Green, etc.)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obam... h/t Drudge

Poll: Dead heat in battleground states
Politico/GW University poll shows 47% apiece for Romney and Obama in the battleground states. Interestingly, Romney grabs independents at 47 percent to 32 percent, a change from 2008 when Obama was strong with independents.

A failure to break 50% usually means trouble for the incumbent, but this race could go any which way.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83380.html h/t Drudge

First Results from NH: Tie
Continuing with the tie theme, the first results from the first town to vote in NH, Dixville-Notch: President Obama 5, Gov. Romney, Virgil Goode 0, Gary Johnson 0.

This is the first time that Dixville-Notch has voted a tie; is this a harbinger of things to come?


Third Parties: A Waste of Time?
Libertarian professor Randy Barnett says in the WSJ that third parties are a waste in the first-past-the-post system. Rather, libertarians should work to move the two existing parties toward liberty views.

Meanwhile, the Libertarian and Constitution parties have earned enough votes in past elections in Missouri to register candidates on par with the GOP and the Democrats. Third-party votes could reach 6% in Missouri this year.

What effect do you think third-party votes have on the election(s) this year?

Ron Paul: Best-Of Compilation
Here's best-of compilation of Ron Paul videos as we face this election that doesn't feature him on even a Congressional ballot for the first time in a long time: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL712F9B27550BCB07

Obama Predicted to Win Ohio
CBS News is predicting Obama will win Ohio. Without Ohio, it makes it very difficult for Romney to win.

Obama Wins Battleground States
NBC News reports Obama winning in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Iowa. The GOP failed to take over the Senate, with a 50-50 tie being broken by Vice President Joe Biden.

Third Parties Poll 1.5%, Could Decide Election
Third parties are polling 1.5% in Ohio, and could decide the election. Caveat: Johnson is polling 0.9%. Added to Romney's 48.6%, it still doesn't match Obama's 49.8%.

Liberty Candidate Kerry Bentivolio Wins in Michigan
Preliminary results put Bentivolio (R, MI) US House candidate over the top.

Ron Paul Republican Justin Amash Stays
Liberty Republican Justin Amash keeps his US house seat in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Anti-Obamacare Propositions Mostly Pass
Thinkprogress whines about anti-Obamacare propositions on the ballot on Election Day: "Wyoming’s Amendment A, Florida’s Amendment 1, Alabama’s Amendment 6, and Montana’s Measure LR-122 would all prohibit state residents and employers from being forced to purchase insurance or participate in any externally-imposed health care system.

In Missouri, Proposition E seeks to prevent the state from instituting its own health insurance exchange."

Wyoming Amendment A passes
Ballotopedia link

Florida Amendment 1 fails to get 60%, getting only 48%
Ballotopeida link

Alabama Amendment 6 passes
Ballotopedia link

Montana Measure LR-122 passes 176,456 for and 92,020 against
Ballotopedia link

Missouri Proposition E passes with 62%
Ballotopedia link

Ron Paul NH Chairman Andy Sanburn Wins
Andy Sanburn (R) wins another term to the NH Senate. He scraped past Lee Nyquist with 15,435 votes to Nyquist's 15,225, requiring a recount. Sanburn has been a key liberty ally in the first primary state.

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Ha Ha, they noticed!

Just on the Cooper show at 3:25 AM Central time.
Big wigs from Republican party being interviewed by Cooper. When questioned about the Republican party loss, what could they do about it.

"We had a lot of Ron Paul people join us and ...........We can't cheat or ignore them........ That's where are future is."

YIPPIE they noticed!

Anyone who knows how, can you get a film of it?



Guiliani was on last night and stated that the Republican Party has to become socially libertarian.

6,002,000 votes

Thats what Gary Johnson needed to get the 5% threshold for public funding.

Instead he got 1,139,562 votes, just 19% of what he needed.

How did we miss those other 4,860,000 voters?

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

RON PAUL 2016!

An idea whose time has come cannot be defeated.

Paul/Paul ticket

Anyone? Paul/ Hasner? Paul/Any Liberty lover?

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

South Park - Obama Wins! Watch Online - Watch Series

South Park - Season 16 Episode 14 - Obama Wins!

Last night, when it really seemed Romney might win,

I told my neighbour:

"I'm happy Obama's losing, and I'm sad Romney's gonna win."

Then "miraculously" Obama won. So now I'm like:

"I'm happy Romney lost, and I'm sad Obama won." lol

Hey this is some funny stuff

Hey this is some funny stuff right here. RP-for-life


not to encourage obama's sociopathological tendencies but..

im glad Mitt lost... after what he did to RP I hope the party implodes and we rise from the ashes!!!!

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

I love watching these Neo-Cons predict Romney's win

And then complain when he loses. This is fun to watch. lol



It's official

California is full of mentally challenged people! Prop 30 passed! I can't afford anymore taxes in this god forsaken state! I'm either going to movie to New Hampshire, Colorado, or Washington. I love the east coast, especially Boston, Massichusetts, but I don't know if I can afford to live their either.

GOP dirty tricks

It is good to see all the GOP/RNC dirty tricks during the primaries produce NOTHING. I am not an Obummer supporter, but it is nice to know that all those shenanigans during the Caucus/Primaries did not help the Romulan.
Might be the best thing for LIBERTY to have Obummer until 2016.
Good Riddance to Romney, from a Ron Paul supporter.
Maybe this will be the slap in the face many "die hard" republicans need to see that they supported the wrong candidate.
You all should had supported The Good Doctor, Ron Paul.
Ron Paul 2016, Let's Roll.

Sean Hannity Can't Figure Out What Happened! Ha!

So he spent his three hours talking to his "intelligent" advisers that were more confused than he was!

Both Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity avoided the mention of Ron Paul effects.

They attempted to use "in depth" "conservative" reasoning of their most "intelligently ignorant" advisers, that would in no way upset the CORPORATE conservative base blurring the Constitutional Base to include privileged Cartels so that they, well, all looked like the same thing ...and red white and blue "AMERICAN" ...as usual;

Where they get these people....Ha!

It appears "that they conveniently" don't have any concept of the "Virginia Declaration of Rights #4"; or why "State Born Exclusive Privileges" (i.e. Corporations, Unions and Special interests or undelegated state and federal bureaucracies) are not even suppose to exist in a free country or be part of the freedom of Contract as they corrupt them both.

Three Links with regard to Exclusive Privileges:


Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788 (in Full):


Virginia Declaration of Rights #4:


American Patriot Party.CC

RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.


Democratic Presidential Candidate received '9' million less votes in 2012 as compared with 2008.


p.s. Republican received 2 million less


That shows a solid chink in the Consensus issue for both of them

Especially since most of the votes both parties did secure, were simply "party line" ignorant "pull the handle for the team" "desperation votes".

RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

9.4M LESS people voted in '12 than in '08

That would have been 7.2% of the 2012 National Popular Vote.

If they did vote in 2012, and voted for Gary Johnson, he would have won 8.1% of the National Popular Vote.

Take the number of fewer '08 to 2012 voters added to ALL the votes NOT for the 2 main Big parties is 11,287,147 that would have been 8.7% of the 2012 National Popular vote.

Its contacting those 11.2 Million people and telling them of the Liberty Movement thats gonna help us win in 2016.

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

looking for "conservative" pundits

during the election my plan was: if Romney wins, I'll buy the main left-leaning papers and get a good laugh, if Obama wins, I'll search for the "conservative" pundits videos that bashed or ignored Ron Paul after the "electable option" lost.

Obama won and I can't find anything on the web :-(

Nixon won in a 520 EV landslide in 1972

and resigned in disgrace less than 2 years later.

Fast & Furious, Benghazi are not going to go away. Its up to us too keep these investigations alive.

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

This race was Romney's to lose...

... and he did it !

Dear GOP

Don't blame me. I wrote in Ron Paul because you guys were too stupid to get behind the real winner and I'm not going to have blood on my hands by voting for the lesser or greater of two evils. I'm glad Mitt lost because I don't want the libs erroneously blaming "those free market guys" for all the problems that will undoubtedly continue to occur.

Hmm ... something I never thought of

You said:

"I'm not going to have blood on my hands by voting for the lesser or greater of two evils"

I never thought of the GREATER of two evils side of things.

Next time we get the "lesser of two evils" argument, maybe the response should be something like this:

Them: Well, you have to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Me: As long as you plan on voting for evil, why not vote for the greater of two evils?

Should drive home the point -- and make them admit they don't know what the hell they're talking about.


So the PTB chose puppet #1

Big deal. We knew it would be one or the other. I thought it would be giant douche Romney, but they went with the turd sandwich. I was wrong, but it really makes no difference. People are NOT that stupid. Ron Paul would be president if not for the rigged system. So the next step should be working toward getting a legitimate voting system in place, which must include taking away the Diebold voting machines. Otherwise, we're just spinning our wheels here.

In the meantime, stock up on food, water & ammo because the hard times they are a comin'.

More Proof

that support for Romney was a mirage just like in the primaries. Make people think that others support Romney and hope everyone jumps on the band wagon. FAIL

Heard at the end of the campaign trail: Voters speak out.

"Obama? Yea. He broke his promises last time. He reneged on every one of his campaign promises... except one. Did he not buy his kids a dog?"

"Romney? You mean Flipper? ... Your kidding, right? He kept flipping all of his promises. For his campaign? Oh yea, that too. ... Wait a minute, you've got me confused. Shouldn't he get 1/2 credit?

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

4 % short of 5 %

Gary Johnson: 1,139,562 1.0%
Others (including write ins): ~175,000 0.1%

So the LP did not get the

5% they needed?

Does anyone know nationally how much our third party people did or how many write-in votes for Ron Paul occurred?

Bright spots?

In Washington State we voted to allow same sex marriage and to legilize cannabis use, so there are two instances where the people voted for more liberty and less government.

keeping marriage definitions

keeping marriage definitions within the government's realm is a terrible idea, makes me wonder how people ever survived without marriage licenses before, lol

human nature is so funny

I have said...

I have said for a long time that marriage is a religious institution and the governmetn should not play a part in it. Allowing same sex couples to marry is a step in the right direction.