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Post - Election Day Open Thread - Obama Wins; The Ron Paul Factor; Nullification in WA + CO;

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Well everyone, this is IT! Election day. Did you vote? Was it crowded? What did you see / hear / observe? Please post your news, updates and insights below. If there is a specific issue you'd like to address, please feel free to start a new thread, but first check to see that it hasn't been posted already.

Thank you everyone, for everything.


Poll: Romney 49, Obama 48
Rasmussen has Romney at 49%, Obama trailing by 1, and 2% for everybody else (Libertarian, Green, etc.)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obam... h/t Drudge

Poll: Dead heat in battleground states
Politico/GW University poll shows 47% apiece for Romney and Obama in the battleground states. Interestingly, Romney grabs independents at 47 percent to 32 percent, a change from 2008 when Obama was strong with independents.

A failure to break 50% usually means trouble for the incumbent, but this race could go any which way.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83380.html h/t Drudge

First Results from NH: Tie
Continuing with the tie theme, the first results from the first town to vote in NH, Dixville-Notch: President Obama 5, Gov. Romney, Virgil Goode 0, Gary Johnson 0.

This is the first time that Dixville-Notch has voted a tie; is this a harbinger of things to come?


Third Parties: A Waste of Time?
Libertarian professor Randy Barnett says in the WSJ that third parties are a waste in the first-past-the-post system. Rather, libertarians should work to move the two existing parties toward liberty views.

Meanwhile, the Libertarian and Constitution parties have earned enough votes in past elections in Missouri to register candidates on par with the GOP and the Democrats. Third-party votes could reach 6% in Missouri this year.

What effect do you think third-party votes have on the election(s) this year?

Ron Paul: Best-Of Compilation
Here's best-of compilation of Ron Paul videos as we face this election that doesn't feature him on even a Congressional ballot for the first time in a long time: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL712F9B27550BCB07

Obama Predicted to Win Ohio
CBS News is predicting Obama will win Ohio. Without Ohio, it makes it very difficult for Romney to win.

Obama Wins Battleground States
NBC News reports Obama winning in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Iowa. The GOP failed to take over the Senate, with a 50-50 tie being broken by Vice President Joe Biden.

Third Parties Poll 1.5%, Could Decide Election
Third parties are polling 1.5% in Ohio, and could decide the election. Caveat: Johnson is polling 0.9%. Added to Romney's 48.6%, it still doesn't match Obama's 49.8%.

Liberty Candidate Kerry Bentivolio Wins in Michigan
Preliminary results put Bentivolio (R, MI) US House candidate over the top.

Ron Paul Republican Justin Amash Stays
Liberty Republican Justin Amash keeps his US house seat in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Anti-Obamacare Propositions Mostly Pass
Thinkprogress whines about anti-Obamacare propositions on the ballot on Election Day: "Wyoming’s Amendment A, Florida’s Amendment 1, Alabama’s Amendment 6, and Montana’s Measure LR-122 would all prohibit state residents and employers from being forced to purchase insurance or participate in any externally-imposed health care system.

In Missouri, Proposition E seeks to prevent the state from instituting its own health insurance exchange."

Wyoming Amendment A passes
Ballotopedia link

Florida Amendment 1 fails to get 60%, getting only 48%
Ballotopeida link

Alabama Amendment 6 passes
Ballotopedia link

Montana Measure LR-122 passes 176,456 for and 92,020 against
Ballotopedia link

Missouri Proposition E passes with 62%
Ballotopedia link

Ron Paul NH Chairman Andy Sanburn Wins
Andy Sanburn (R) wins another term to the NH Senate. He scraped past Lee Nyquist with 15,435 votes to Nyquist's 15,225, requiring a recount. Sanburn has been a key liberty ally in the first primary state.

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GOTV Anti-Rmoney style - I spent two hours this morning

driving a passenger van from a nursing home to the polling place and back again. I am scheduled to go back for three more hours this afternoon. These are the elderly poor, living in government funded housing- mostly Obama voters. I volunteered for this because I want to do all I can to stop Rmoney from winning my state of Pennsylvania. I haven't voted myself yet, I really want to write in Ron Paul, but Rmoney needs to lose in order for us to advance our cause, so I will vote Obama even though he is awful - I feel like I have to do it in order to promote the cause of liberty in 2016 and beyond. If Mitt wins Pennsylvania (currently leaning Obama), we're screwed.

Vote Gary Johnson! He takes

Vote Gary Johnson! He takes votes from Mitt Romney. You can help the LP get 5% to become a major party for next election. I wanted to write in RP but he is not a certified write in candidate so I decided to help the LP out while siphoning votes from Romney.

nice effort

But...... Obama will likely win PA by a wide enough margin that it would have been better to vote for Johnson.

Either way the election goes

Either way the election goes tonight its going to be an 'I told you So'
obama wins= I told you romney couldn't win, shouldn't of screwed over Ron Paul
romney wins= I told you his policies were just as bad as obama's

Just voted in Reno

I voted GJ, cuz we can't write in Ron Paul here. I was looking at the "none of these candidates" button, though. When I got home I found out that my wife, who early voted, did not have Virgil Goode, or none of these as options when she voted last week. Doesn't seem fair to Virgil Goode. But what has been fair this election cycle anyway?

4 votes here for Gary...

Ya know, it's so absurd that polls say 38% of the country thinks we're going in the right direction and 62% say we're going in the wrong direction.

Yet Romney can't blowout Obama. This should have been a crush, but people just don't like Romney.

I would be on cloud nine and dance in a pink tutu if....

Mittens came in 3rd place in just one state!

It just might happen

in NM.

Intrade Chart buying of shares.

Can anyone explain if you bought Romney shares right now at $2.68 how much can you make if he wins tonight?

Each share will settle at either $10 or 0

If you buy a hundred shares of Romney at $2.50 per share, and he actually wins, you will get $1,000 for a profit of $750. Over 70 million has been bet so far today, and Obama is heavily favored. MOney talks, you know the rest. I bought 100 shares of Obama after the first debate at only $5.89. An Obama victory will pay me $411 dollars unless I sell today before the outcome. Obama is at about $7.50 per share right now, so I could sell now and get paid or hold on and get paid more.


If you don't have an account, I think you can still buy but you have to do a wire transfer in order to fund your account.Still plenty of money to be made on Obama today.

Thanks for how the system will work. I guess I will

have to wait until 2016 when maybe someone by the name of Rand will be running.

The contract will settle at

The contract will settle at 10.00 for the winner so you would make 7.32.

Couldn't write-in RP in TX-There were LOTS of Libertarians on my

ballot. I voted for GJ for prez. There were so many Libertarians, I could have voted straight ticket, but didn't because there were so many city props on ballot I wasn't sure if they would count. There was a Libertarian on just about everything except all of the judges. They were all Dems and not running against anyone.

A lot of voters today in my

A lot of voters today in my little township. Looks like a Romney win here. I really wanted to write in Ron Paul but he was not a certified write in candidate so I chose to vote for Gary Johnson only because I would like to see the Libertarian party get their 5% of the vote. Guess that is all my vote will amount to this time around.

I love and respect all Ron Paul supporters, regardless of

how they vote in this election.

Ron Paul says it is up to each of us to decide what we think is best. I agree with this. It's a personal decision based on our individual situation, beliefs, and values.

This important thing is to stay together after this and keep fighting for liberty.

Ann in Florida

Just got done running errands

Just got done running errands in Keene NH. There are sign wavers on the corner for Ron Paul write in votes! Yay! One sign said, "I love Ron Paul voters." It made my day. The polls are very busy in my little town of 4000 ppl.

Blessings )o(


My wife just called me after voting, and she said some guy was looking at his ballot in confusion, saying, "I thought there were only two people running for President. Who are all these other candidates?"

We've got a lot of work to do.


Happy Libertarian

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This is what Intrade looks like for the GOP when they

screw over the Liberty movement via dishonesty and corruption and alienate any and all support from us:

Obama: 73.0% chance of winning.

Romney: 27.1% chance of winning.


Did you buy shares? I am thinking it will be closer

in Romney might win. So if you buy at $2.67 what do you get if you win?


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I don't participate, I just watch because Intrade does have

a history of being very accurate.

But here's the in and outs:

There's a tab on Intrades pages that says "How it works"

Intrade's more generous than Nate Silver...

who gives Obama a 90% chance of winning.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Yep...been inching up all morning too


"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

California voter. Voted by

California voter. Voted by mail for Gary Johnson last week. Unfortunately there were no liberty candidates on the ballot, since California now has the "top two" primary system. Only R and D on the ballot for everything other than the office of the presidency.


John Dennis, Dan Roberts, Ton McClintock.. there are plenty of Liberty Candidates in CA. Wake tf UP.

I just went over my official California ballot

and I can assure you that NONE of those names are on it.
This for the SD Area and I'm looking through my official sample ballot right now and do not see any of the names you listed.

Unless we need to write them in, which I will do. If this is true you could clarify that instead of insulting posters.

Bill Brady


Negative on Bill Brady

as well. He's not in here. There's a "Dave Roberts" but that's for our local board of supervisors.

I'm just sayin - if we need to write them in then I need to know which positions they are going for.

Forgive me for bringing this up but.....

your comment is not a good witness!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

And yours is because

after the election you will have opinions while you wait for something to do?