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Post - Election Day Open Thread - Obama Wins; The Ron Paul Factor; Nullification in WA + CO;

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Well everyone, this is IT! Election day. Did you vote? Was it crowded? What did you see / hear / observe? Please post your news, updates and insights below. If there is a specific issue you'd like to address, please feel free to start a new thread, but first check to see that it hasn't been posted already.

Thank you everyone, for everything.


Poll: Romney 49, Obama 48
Rasmussen has Romney at 49%, Obama trailing by 1, and 2% for everybody else (Libertarian, Green, etc.)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obam... h/t Drudge

Poll: Dead heat in battleground states
Politico/GW University poll shows 47% apiece for Romney and Obama in the battleground states. Interestingly, Romney grabs independents at 47 percent to 32 percent, a change from 2008 when Obama was strong with independents.

A failure to break 50% usually means trouble for the incumbent, but this race could go any which way.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83380.html h/t Drudge

First Results from NH: Tie
Continuing with the tie theme, the first results from the first town to vote in NH, Dixville-Notch: President Obama 5, Gov. Romney, Virgil Goode 0, Gary Johnson 0.

This is the first time that Dixville-Notch has voted a tie; is this a harbinger of things to come?


Third Parties: A Waste of Time?
Libertarian professor Randy Barnett says in the WSJ that third parties are a waste in the first-past-the-post system. Rather, libertarians should work to move the two existing parties toward liberty views.

Meanwhile, the Libertarian and Constitution parties have earned enough votes in past elections in Missouri to register candidates on par with the GOP and the Democrats. Third-party votes could reach 6% in Missouri this year.

What effect do you think third-party votes have on the election(s) this year?

Ron Paul: Best-Of Compilation
Here's best-of compilation of Ron Paul videos as we face this election that doesn't feature him on even a Congressional ballot for the first time in a long time: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL712F9B27550BCB07

Obama Predicted to Win Ohio
CBS News is predicting Obama will win Ohio. Without Ohio, it makes it very difficult for Romney to win.

Obama Wins Battleground States
NBC News reports Obama winning in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Iowa. The GOP failed to take over the Senate, with a 50-50 tie being broken by Vice President Joe Biden.

Third Parties Poll 1.5%, Could Decide Election
Third parties are polling 1.5% in Ohio, and could decide the election. Caveat: Johnson is polling 0.9%. Added to Romney's 48.6%, it still doesn't match Obama's 49.8%.

Liberty Candidate Kerry Bentivolio Wins in Michigan
Preliminary results put Bentivolio (R, MI) US House candidate over the top.

Ron Paul Republican Justin Amash Stays
Liberty Republican Justin Amash keeps his US house seat in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Anti-Obamacare Propositions Mostly Pass
Thinkprogress whines about anti-Obamacare propositions on the ballot on Election Day: "Wyoming’s Amendment A, Florida’s Amendment 1, Alabama’s Amendment 6, and Montana’s Measure LR-122 would all prohibit state residents and employers from being forced to purchase insurance or participate in any externally-imposed health care system.

In Missouri, Proposition E seeks to prevent the state from instituting its own health insurance exchange."

Wyoming Amendment A passes
Ballotopedia link

Florida Amendment 1 fails to get 60%, getting only 48%
Ballotopeida link

Alabama Amendment 6 passes
Ballotopedia link

Montana Measure LR-122 passes 176,456 for and 92,020 against
Ballotopedia link

Missouri Proposition E passes with 62%
Ballotopedia link

Ron Paul NH Chairman Andy Sanburn Wins
Andy Sanburn (R) wins another term to the NH Senate. He scraped past Lee Nyquist with 15,435 votes to Nyquist's 15,225, requiring a recount. Sanburn has been a key liberty ally in the first primary state.

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While I'm not happy seeing 4

While I'm not happy seeing 4 more years of Obummer, I'd really like to hear tomorrow's show of the fake conservatives (neocons) like, Mark Levin, Savage, Hannity, Ingraham, Limbaugh and Glenn (overacting) Beck.

Oh good grief! They just

Oh good grief! They just called a run for Jeb Bush in 2016.

I actually had made a bet

I actually had made a bet that they would drag him out at the convention and just announce that he was the candidate - seeing as he and his dad had just had the sit down with Obama as soon as he got back from China.

Alas, I did not make my money back but I was close!!!

Next election...well, there

Next election...well, there won't be an election. They will simply tell us who our candidate is. Besides, the primaries are time consuming and expensive.

Make sure to let every Neocon

Make sure to let every Neocon you know who so much as utters "Jeb" that if the put him up, they can expect 4 more years of democRAT dominion.

Make sure to let them know that without the liberty movment, there will never be another "R" in office... and we do not compromise

I suppose we should expect a

I suppose we should expect a Ryan run in 2016. The insanity never stops.

After all...

A ham sandwich could have run away with this election.

Oh...I'm hungry now.

Oh...I'm hungry now.

SteveMT's picture

Mitt conceding now. Go away to oblivion Mitt

Good riddance, Mitt.

So, question:

How much did Ron Paul get? Google lists every human being on earth except him.


"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Unfortunately, there is a "legitimate" reason for that

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe each of those candidates listed were actually on the ballots in one or more states. Our hero was relegated to write-in status only, across the board.

With liberty and justice for all...who can afford it.

He's write-in so they'll have

He's write-in so they'll have to count his ballots by hand. We won't know for days.

(That's yet another reason I voted for Johnson: As a Libertarian Party candidate with a ballot slot in 48 states he'll be counted right away.)

The ballots that were bumped out of the automated count because Ron was written in might swing some congressional elections, too.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

its kinda like the RNC

"HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED" turned out to be the biggest elephant in the room. :-)

"mitt romney confident that he'll win ohio"

well i'm probably slightly misquoting, but that was the news story from CNN this morning...

Mitt Romney.... what an A$$!

it's like GOP was out looking hard for somebody that could possibly lose to obama.

looks like they found their guy!!!

great going!!! now let's give LIBERTY candidates some media attention next time! and we'll dominate next election when the masses are begging for someone to save our country from the Bush/Obama mess that we're in.

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The sheeple have baaed loudly enough for more of the same.

They'll get what they deserve.

Anyone staying up to hear Mitt's speech?

I can't wait to hear the concession speech that he didn't prepare.

...I saw in an online article earlier today a quote from Mitt gloating that he had only prepared a victory speech for after the election...I don't typically make a post like this with no real substance, but part of me is very glad that Mitt's big shot and underhanded tactics are coming back to haunt him.

Feel free to reuse any resources/ideas that I post on the DailyPaul on other networking sites.

why listen to mitt EVER.... AGAIN?

you can't trust anything he says, except that you can trust it to be 100% BS.

Thank God we don't have to

Thank God we don't have to hear him speak anymore. good riddence.

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I watch the Democrats celebrate

and marvel how they don't know, that Republicans gave them this win. At least 2 million Republicans DID NOT vote for Romney, even though they were not for Obama. Almost a million (reported) voted for Gary Johnson. Countless numbers wrote in Ron Paul...other third parties...or just no one at all. How would you have liked to have had those votes, bully?

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

Romney lost to one of the

Romney lost to one of the worst presidents in history.

I'm so happy

I was going to move out of the country if Mitt Romney became president!
This is the happiest day of my life, not because I like Obama.
It's just the way we were bullied by Mitt Romney and his douche bags.
I am so glad he lost! Like father like son.
Now we have a chance in 2016.

It's okay to feel sorry for Mitt Romney, he doesn't have any real friends. He has a lot of money, I doubt he has any real friends. Ron Paul on the other hand has millions and millions of real friends who would do anything for him. Feel really sorry for Mitt Romney he is a sad sad man.
I'm still happy he lost!

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein

Coke vs. Pepsi. Romney vs. Obama. Their both poison.

Congratulations America! If Romney would have won we would get continued growth and control of the military industrial complex and endless wars that are bankrupting the planet, the continued fraud and ponzi scheme that is fractional reserve lending and the corrupt Federal Reserve and Central Banks tentacles on society, escalating loss of civil liberties, a more corrupt judicial system, continued corporate lobbying giving more control to multi-national corporations, loss of habeas corpus and detention of American citizens, increased debt and uncontrolled relentless spending and on and on. And now that Obama has won, well we get continued growth and control of the military industrial complex and endless wars that are bankrupting the planet, the continued fraud and ponzi scheme that is fractional reserve lending and the corrupt Federal Reserve and Central Banks tentacles on society, escalating loss of civil liberties, a more corrupt judicial system, continued corporate lobbying giving more control to multi-national corporations, loss of habeas corpus and detention of American citizens, increased debt and uncontrolled relentless spending and on and on. So the charade that was the Presidential election continues, with both sides being two sides of the same coin. Here's to Goldman Sachs, who is tonight's real winner since they are the single largest contributor to both parties to ensure that nothing really changes. And here's to the CFR, the Bilderberg Group and the global elite that can rest easy as business will continue as usual with so little difference between either party on the issues the entire election is essentially irrelevant. Sorry America, this once great nation is all but finished and leading the rest of the world down the same sad path.


So true

I'm slowly starting to become a survivalist (is that what it's called?) because I can see that things are going to get really bad.

Hopefully not Children of Men bad

But we are definitely headed the wrong direction. I have two wells now and growing a lot of my food, but we could have total chaos and then all bets are off.


A Moment of Reflection

We are able, on nights like tonight, to take a moment and reflect on just how colossally stupid the American People are/have become. If there was ever any doubt as to the persuasive power of the media and the organs of government: behold!

We all share in the shame of what we have allowed our republic to become. Ron Paul is right. This Great Experiment in freedom is about to go into deep hibernation. The fact that two men who stood for and said so little were our "choices" for such an august station within our government offends and appalls me.

May God have mercy on our souls.

"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

In a democracy, the majority rules,

and the majority of people are stupid. It's always been this way. Furthermore, all democracies are temporary, because eventually the people vote themselves into a bankruptcy. Lamenting about this is like lamenting about gravity. Just live your life the best you can and don't worry about "the country." Work on yourself and change the people around you by being an example of a principled person. This is all we can do.

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

*sigh* ... better go load any empty magazines

and buy more Ag/Au.

I did what I could today. There's no saving these people. fuck 'em.

bitter sweet

They gambled they could do it without us... and LOST !!

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams



Change in direction / laugh all you want

Listen. You guys can go on and on as much as you want about sticking it to the GOP. Or laughing about Romney's defeat. Yes, the GOP does deserve a kick in the rear-end for the dirty tactics used during the primaries. But this country desperately needed a positive change in direction.

My own business has suffered nearly every year under Obama's 1st term, my wife's job is hanging by a very thin thread and our house is worth less than the mortgage. Our country is 16 trillion in debt--and counting, and unemployment is above 8 percent. And will probably not improve all that much.

I'm a pragmatist when it comes to politics. I saw a Romney presidency as one that could be held more accountable than Obama to the libertarian wing of the GOP. To Obama we're all just a bunch of racist, gun-totting domestic terrorists. To Romney, we would've been a constituency of his party. One that he would have to answer to.

Based on the last 3 years, watching my family begin to slip from the middle class, I do NOT find it funny that we're going to have a "you didn't build that" clown in the white house for 4 more years. As I approach my 40's It's downright frightening--I wonder how we're going to make it for another 4 years.