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Post - Election Day Open Thread - Obama Wins; The Ron Paul Factor; Nullification in WA + CO;

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Well everyone, this is IT! Election day. Did you vote? Was it crowded? What did you see / hear / observe? Please post your news, updates and insights below. If there is a specific issue you'd like to address, please feel free to start a new thread, but first check to see that it hasn't been posted already.

Thank you everyone, for everything.


Poll: Romney 49, Obama 48
Rasmussen has Romney at 49%, Obama trailing by 1, and 2% for everybody else (Libertarian, Green, etc.)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obam... h/t Drudge

Poll: Dead heat in battleground states
Politico/GW University poll shows 47% apiece for Romney and Obama in the battleground states. Interestingly, Romney grabs independents at 47 percent to 32 percent, a change from 2008 when Obama was strong with independents.

A failure to break 50% usually means trouble for the incumbent, but this race could go any which way.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83380.html h/t Drudge

First Results from NH: Tie
Continuing with the tie theme, the first results from the first town to vote in NH, Dixville-Notch: President Obama 5, Gov. Romney, Virgil Goode 0, Gary Johnson 0.

This is the first time that Dixville-Notch has voted a tie; is this a harbinger of things to come?


Third Parties: A Waste of Time?
Libertarian professor Randy Barnett says in the WSJ that third parties are a waste in the first-past-the-post system. Rather, libertarians should work to move the two existing parties toward liberty views.

Meanwhile, the Libertarian and Constitution parties have earned enough votes in past elections in Missouri to register candidates on par with the GOP and the Democrats. Third-party votes could reach 6% in Missouri this year.

What effect do you think third-party votes have on the election(s) this year?

Ron Paul: Best-Of Compilation
Here's best-of compilation of Ron Paul videos as we face this election that doesn't feature him on even a Congressional ballot for the first time in a long time: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL712F9B27550BCB07

Obama Predicted to Win Ohio
CBS News is predicting Obama will win Ohio. Without Ohio, it makes it very difficult for Romney to win.

Obama Wins Battleground States
NBC News reports Obama winning in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Iowa. The GOP failed to take over the Senate, with a 50-50 tie being broken by Vice President Joe Biden.

Third Parties Poll 1.5%, Could Decide Election
Third parties are polling 1.5% in Ohio, and could decide the election. Caveat: Johnson is polling 0.9%. Added to Romney's 48.6%, it still doesn't match Obama's 49.8%.

Liberty Candidate Kerry Bentivolio Wins in Michigan
Preliminary results put Bentivolio (R, MI) US House candidate over the top.

Ron Paul Republican Justin Amash Stays
Liberty Republican Justin Amash keeps his US house seat in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Anti-Obamacare Propositions Mostly Pass
Thinkprogress whines about anti-Obamacare propositions on the ballot on Election Day: "Wyoming’s Amendment A, Florida’s Amendment 1, Alabama’s Amendment 6, and Montana’s Measure LR-122 would all prohibit state residents and employers from being forced to purchase insurance or participate in any externally-imposed health care system.

In Missouri, Proposition E seeks to prevent the state from instituting its own health insurance exchange."

Wyoming Amendment A passes
Ballotopedia link

Florida Amendment 1 fails to get 60%, getting only 48%
Ballotopeida link

Alabama Amendment 6 passes
Ballotopedia link

Montana Measure LR-122 passes 176,456 for and 92,020 against
Ballotopedia link

Missouri Proposition E passes with 62%
Ballotopedia link

Ron Paul NH Chairman Andy Sanburn Wins
Andy Sanburn (R) wins another term to the NH Senate. He scraped past Lee Nyquist with 15,435 votes to Nyquist's 15,225, requiring a recount. Sanburn has been a key liberty ally in the first primary state.

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I will pray for you. We

I will pray for you. We should all pray for us all. I sure hope we survive another 4 years.

Sorry for your troubles

I can understand why my family members would vote against Obama, since they're seeing the direct effects Obamacare is having on their wallets right now, and on its effects on Medicare right now.

I'm not celebrating. I wanted Obama out, if only because he didn't deserve to be put back in (heck, he deserved to be tried and jailed). I didn't want Romney in, but I definitely wanted Obama out.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Bush deserved to be

tried and jailed too. But it won't happen because we are in a one-party system.

have you lost your house yet

have you lost your house yet and cars and have a disability? been living it! the best thing for your future and the gop is a romney loss!

Ron Paul 2016

Wow...watch it friend. We all

Wow...watch it friend. We all lose either way. There should be no celebration.


Thanks for saying that.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

So the reality is

You want the GOP to lie to you, and say 'we see the error of our ways..next time will be different, welcome aboard'.
As long as you tie yourself to the two party system, you will remain a lemming.
More likely they will pat themselves on the back for running a close contest, and blame you for stealing their support, that would have put them over the top.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

Got a better idea?

Got a better idea?

Not hard to work out

Get your weight behind a Liberty candidate, any candidate you can believe in, every candidate you can believe in, and do whatever you can to change this corrupt sham that's called the political system.
Support the philosophy of Ron Paul, and the benefit of his experience and wisdom, and stop expecting him to lead the way and change the world for you. All this 'RP or nobody at all' is not a strategy, it's a plea for help.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

The strategy has always been

The strategy has always been to take over the GOP. It was never RP or nothing. That is not what he wanted. Take over the GOP like he said. He is a smart man. Take heed of his words.

Did you join the GOP? If not than you can't complain that we lost.

His strategy during the

His strategy during the campaign was, but events since then have changed more than a little, to say the least.
This is the whole problem, Ron Paul opened your eyes, gave you the knowledge and the tools, and set you free to think for yourself.."do what you want to do", not tie you to some perceived life long strategy, that may have been appropriate at the time, and has little effect in the future.

Last thing I'm doing is to complain that Romney lost! Many joined the GOP, most left already.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

I think his strategy is very

I think his strategy is very relevant today. The GOP is about to self implode. This is the perfect time to take over it. We've got 4 years and a lot of work to do.

If you can't win your home state(s)

how the hell do you expect to be president of the entire nation? Welcome to Blowback, American-style, Mitt!

Fu*k the GOP!

Cant say I'm glad that Obama won... But I'm sure as hell glad that Romney lost. I'm sure he's in the makeup room right now adding an extra inch to his gray hair stencil. This will give the viewers the impression that he is stressed over the loss. Fu*k the GOP... Serves them right!

an idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government


What liberty candidates/propositions have won so far? is there a check list?

A proposition in New Hampshire

to ban a state income tax is winning the day.

75% reporting:

57% YES
43% NO

politico seems to be showing the ballot measures.


Most tax increases in

Most tax increases in California went down n flames. The recreational marijuana amendment in Colorado passed.

I believe MN is a loss.

I believe MN is a loss.


Both Bills and Quist lost today. Unfortunate.

Check out the first FREE restored name Scriptures at:
Praise YHWH!

As did Byberg. The old dogs

As did Byberg. The old dogs from the MN GOP was butt hurt and refused to back our candidates. They stopped sending the party money. I heard a rumor that some were voting for the dems so they could blame it on us.

Romney got nominated because he could beat Obama

^ lol

classic propaganda

"Romney is Electable" - i heard that so many times and cringed !

Dr.Ron Paul's 2002 Predictions


is a movement - LOL

a bowel movement

Ron Paul would have crushed Obama

... I know hundreds of Dems who wanted to vote for Paul but they never got the chance, now did they?

That made me chuckle.

That made me chuckle.

I-502 is passing

In washington state. It sounds like marijuana will win in Colorado as well.

A baby step for liberty.

roll it on up

for higher education

Think about this.....

During the primaries, Ron Paul received 100,000 PLUS votes in both Ohio and Florida! You don't think RP had an impact on this election? Think again.....GOP take that!!!!

Dear great friends and supporters

I having nothing more to say (with a bright smiley face) than Goodbye GOP!

This is a happy day for I, and I will celebrate this for the next four years by preparing for 2016.

Truth always prevails - in the end!