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Why I'm Voting For Gary Johnson

Like many I have been debating who to vote for. I live in Virginia, a battle-ground state. My options are to write in Ron Paul, vote for Virgin Goode, or vote for Gary Johnson. I made my decision this week to vote for Gary Johnson, but not for the reasons you may think.

I actually do not think GJ is very Libertarian. He is pro-death pro-choice, which to me shows that he is only partially Liberty minded from the beginning. I'm not a single issue voter, but if I was, this would be it. I am a liberty loving American who believes in a very limited government. However, protecting life is one function of Government that is valid, especially the defenseless.

Additionally, GJ is for federal involvement on other issues like gay marriage. He thinks it should be protected at the Federal level. I think gays should have their rights protected and their liberty to live how they want defended. However, marriage is simply a religious thing. The best Libertarian position is to leave the government out of marriage and keep it a religious issue. Protect the rights of homosexuals but leave the government out of marriage. And the same thinking applies to most issues. However, GJ is not always on board with that paradigm. These are just some of the reasons why voting for GJ was not very appealing to me.

I overcame these objections because of two reasons. First, GJ will not win. Not only will he not win, but for the most part the POTUS has no real control over some of the issues I mentioned above, like Roe v. Wade. So, even though I strongly disagree with GJ's position on killing innocent babies abortion, I can ethically vote for him because I know that he will not win, and that he would have little impact on the issue if he did.

The second reason I overcame my objections to GJ and decided to vote for him is because it will make more of an impact. Especially since I live in a battle ground state my vote will 'count' more. By voting for GJ and the Libertarian party it sends a message to the MSM and the country that we are FED UP (pun intended) with the two party sham. My goal and hope is that the Libertarian party garners enough support to become relevant and recognized on the national level. Like Ron Paul, I believe that through education and honest dialogue we will move the country to our way of thinking. My hope in voting for GJ is that I can play some small part in that effort.

So, what about you?




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ecorob's picture

my wife and I proudly WROTE IN...

Ron Paul today in Tennessee!

Ron Paul
2012
Accept no substitute!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

My

I voted for the Libertarian candidate

I have supported Ron Paul whole-heartedly for six years now. I've spent countless hours raising money for his campaigns and educating friends, family and neo-cons about Ron Paul, fiat currency, the Constitution, the Federal Reserve, the gold standard, etc. etc. etc.

However, I've been a libertarian far longer than I've been a Ron Paul supporter. I almost always vote for the Libertarian Party candidate no matter what. I had to join the GOP to vote for Ron Paul.

Ron Paul isn't on the ballot in Ohio, and the Libertarian Party candidate is. This time, it's a dude named Gary Johnson, who seems to be a pretty sharp entrepreneur and successful state governor, with whom I agree 85 to 90% of the time.

Gary Johnson only looks bad if you compare him to Ron Paul. But then again, EVERY politician looks bad compared to Ron Paul. The good doctor is one of a kind.

Compared to Robomney, Gary Johnson is a shining beacon of fiscal responsibility, personal freedom and integrity. Voting for him was a no-brainer.

I would encourage my fellow Buckeyes to vote for the Libertarian Party this time, so we can get the LP up above 5% of the vote and guarantee that the party has ballot access in all 50 States. Even if you don't agree with GJ on 100% of the issues, I think almost every Ron Paul supporter can support the LP's platform. Ron Paul is himself a lifetime member of the LP, after all.

"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." - Ronald Reagan

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I can see you dont like him much

because of his positions on abortion. I don't get this subject at all. To start with, I'll just leave my position completely out of this.

Whether something is legal or illegal doesn't matter. Prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s should be evidence of this. If people want something bad enough, legal or illegal, they will get it no matter how difficult it is to do. This doesn't even touch upon the crime that was generated by the mere fact that prohibition existed.

Abortion is a moral issue, not a political one. You either feel strongly one way or the other, but in the end just think about how Prohibition worked out.

Amendment 64 of the Colorado constitution is being debated today. It might pass and then again it might not. But I can guarantee you that if it fails to pass, people will continue to buy marijuana illegally and still consume it, whether or not it is legal or illegal.

Why fight somebody who is generally going in the same direction as you are. At least they aren't paddling upstream.

I voted for him...

Um, I voted for GJ! I think abortion will happen if it's illegal or not. I just think that one valid role for the government is to protect life where it can.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

I used to think most posters were very bright.

But the people here (not in this thread) have not figured out that Ron Paul is not a candidate.

Just because you can write him in does NOT make him a candidate. You can (and people do) write in Mickey Mouse and Jesus and THEY are not candidates either.

And being "registered" does not make him a candidate either. It just means that his votes will be seperated in the final count.

CANDIDATES - actually promote themselves and campaign and Ron Paul is clearly not doing that.

And people have NOT figured out that we know DARNED WELL Gary Johnson isn't going to win. But the Libertarian Party wins with just 5% of the vote.

Afew posters get this - but I am amazed at how many don't.

I get it!

I get it! That's why I voted for GJ.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

SteveMT's picture

Presidents are in charge of foreign policy.

Bringing the troops home and stopping the wars are why I voted for Johnson. Johnson is on the ballot in Montana, and Ron Paul is not an official write-in candidate. I wanted my vote to count for something. The second reason is that Johnson would balance the federal budget, and he would end the IRS. People's lives and People's possessions are the two most important things there are. The abortion and gay marriage issues are further down on the list of priorities.

why does everyone have to

why does everyone have to fight about this.
no one we vote for will win unless you voted obama or romney
its all personal choices, something i thought everyone here supported
thanks to everyone who voted for anyone other than obama/romney!

I voted

for Gary Johnson. I'm okay with my vote, he's not perfect but I think he was the best choice for me. Ron Paul write-ins don't count here, so I did what I thought would help the LP (I'm a Libertarian).

I met Gary Johnson when he came to Atlanta last spring and thought he was a decent guy and although I disagree with some of his positions he at least seems willing to listen, learn and hear a different point of view. Is he just a pandering flip flopper? Could be or he could be going through a conversion (there are many recovering Neo Con's amongst RP supporters), I hope it's the latter but only time will tell.

I wish Ron Paul had won the Republican nomination so I could've cast my vote for him again (I've been voting for the guy since 1988) but he didn't, so I did what I thought was best for me. That being said, I hope the write-in folks make a good showing and I hope the LP gets it's 5%.

It was so hard for me to choose

I ultimately went with GJ but had written in Ron Paul for a brief time too. I want the lp to get the 5% but I also wanted to show the numbers of us Ron Paul supporters at least the die-hards. I felt semi nauseous after I voted wondering if I did the right thing or not. Unfortunately you can't vote twice or I would have voted rp and GJ. I don't know if I did the right thing but it was better than Romney/Obama. GJ better get 5% or I'll be disappointed with my vote preferring to go the way of rp if I had known the lp couldn't get 5%. Hindsight always 20/20 right?

ecorob's picture

the better question is...

why I'm telling everybody on the DAILYPAUL why I voted for gitmo gary?

NOBODY gives a rat's ass why, how, or when you supported the lesser of three evils

Ron Paul
2012
Or, take a hike!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Trolllalala

Don't feed the trolls. Don't read my post, don't click on it, don't respond then. You are for liberty right? Or do you just want to force your view on everyone else?

I would vote for Dr. Paul if he were on the ballot and he WANTED it. He ended his campaign, he is retired, he would say you are silly to vote for him now.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

Except Ron Paul is no more of a candidate than Jesus is.

Just because you can write him in?

Seven people wrote in for Jesus in Rhode Island in 2008.

Gary Johnson IS a candidate. And the best.

Lesser of 3 evils nails it ecorob

And Gary sure is evil and not too bright overall. Kind of like Jill Stein on the best day of her life.

I like how Gary used the infamous racist newsletters to smear Ron Paul with on his official 2012 campaign website.

Cause He's A Lowdown Sly Deviled

Smooth Tongued Eggs Sucking

Back Stabbing Sneaky Farmdog

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

Good God you guys just don't get it

Nobody is voting Gary Johnson because we like him for President or think he stands a chance in hell of getting elected.

For that matter neither does Ron Paul.

The by-far most important reason to vote GJ and the Libertarian Party is because they are extremly close to reaching 5% and getting national recognition as a viable third party!

A THIRD PARTY IN WHICH RON PAUL OR OTHER SIMILAR CANDIDATES MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO USE TO ACTUALLY GET INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. A PARTY IN WHICH WE CAN INFLUENCE AND CONTROL.

You guys are so hard headed. Jesus.

No you don't get it

because face it the LP stinks and will just become the 3rd of 3 evils.

You have a huge problem following the plan laid out by Ron Paul in 2008 which is to take over the GOP and bring it back to it's roots.
Jokers like you think you are smarter than Paul that's seen and lived it from the inside and you are just trying what he did in 1988 and it will never work.

Divide and conquer and you fell for it.

Infiltrate and become the GOP and reign it in.

The LP hasn't been able to accomplish anything in decades and picking unprincipled jackasses like Gary Johnson is just going to run them into a brick wall as you will soon see.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

ecorob's picture

Ba-ZING!

LP = 1988

Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.

You're wasting your time but, thats ok, you'll figure it out.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

It would appear..

...that you and your amigos on the short bus are too DENSE to appreciate that we can do BOTH. Lemme me say it real slow one last time: Primaries are different events from general elections. One can vote one way in the former, and a different way in the latter. I know...this is complicated stuff, but try to follow along.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Trolls...

ecorob, Pauling is My Hobby, Wisdom Strategies, Brother Winston...I'm sure I'm leaving some deserving fellas out of the list.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

ecorob's picture

yeah, we've been trolling on here for five years...

donating, calling, chipping in, sign waving, super-brochuring...all for Dr. RON PAUL!

not for some god damned, johnny-come-lately cfr statist!

you, my fine feathered friend, can go take a flying god damned leap off a tall building

troll, my ass!

who tf do you think you are?

this is a god damned Ron Paul site, you jackwagon!

go to a dailycfrjohnson website! oh, thats right! he DOESN't have one! thats why you come here begging...

and, I also notice that, I'm a subscriber here...helping manystrom further the cause for Dr. Paul...you?

wait for it...crickets!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

As if time has some bearing

As if time has some bearing on you being a troll and an idiot.

ecorob's picture

it has bearing on how much you understand about me...

and is it about me, now?

excellent tactic, i'll use it sometime...if I ever back a cfr statist and can't espouse his virtues, i'll do this, thanks!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

"who tf do you think you are?"

I'm the guy who knows what he's talking about.

You're the other guy.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

ecorob's picture

keep telling yourself that, brother...

one of these days you'll look around and see just where the hell you are and you might ask yourself, "Why the hell am I here"?

answer: because you are a fool!

this is my home, jackwagon...look at the title

you are just a temporary interloper...

you won't be missed!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

We're not brothers...

..I am a libertarian, you are a person trolling a libertarian website.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

I place the debt, the FED,

I place the debt, the FED, foreign policy, crony-capitalism and bailouts, civil liberties, internet freedom, and many other issues in front of this one that has you so upset. But hey, there is always the Santorum write-in option for you single issue abortion voters.

"Where liberty is, there is my country." -Benjamin Franklin

right

right, because the murder of 800,000 babies a year is unimportant.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

Couple points

1. Criminalizing abortion does not mean abortions will stop.

2. Even if it did: Yes, the murder of 800k semi-persons is less important than the enslavement of 300 million actual persons.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

yes and no

1. i agree with you, but it would be less.
2. I go with Dr. Paul on this issue. They are not semi-persons anymore than my 5 year old daughter is a semi-person, but I agree with you that it doesn't make the issues we face any less important.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson