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Are any of you reconsidering the Free State Project? *Updated*

With Obama or Romney most likely being the next President are any of you reconsidering joining the Free State Project?

It is not discussed on here very often do you consider it a failure not worth participating in?

Theoretically shouldn't we(Ron Paul Supporters) have been the most likely to participate in a project like this?

If we had really taken the F.S.P. seriously we could have possibly convinced Dr. Paul to run for Governor or Senator of New Hampshire.


Any ideas of what the F.S.P. can do to take the initial fear of moving to New Hampshire away?
Would a moneybomb for six or twelve months rent for Dr. Paul supporters be a good idea? A partnership with ronpaulforums, Y.A.L., and F.S.P. could be struck.
Obviously the easiest to move are young singles who are willing to live with roommates. Most are going to college, and don't have a family yet. Finding full time work isn't that big an issue for them yet. They would already have common ground with liberty minded roommates so that shouldn't be an issue.

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Does anyone remember

the details of the "Free City" project in cenral America? Now I can't remember if it is in Costa Rica, Honduras or somewhere else, or if it has an official name. I haven't found anything on internet search, probably because I am not using the correct search terms.

If you know what I'm talking about, please reply. Thanks!


In Colorado? Think they would allow such a thing?


here's another one,

more up to date and ranks all 50 States


Would be cool if the FSP made

Would be cool if the FSP made it easier for Europeans to join, without having to marry a US citizen first.

Please visit my site for more information about my libertarian book. Thanks!

Dr. Paul LOVES the FSP & endorsed it.

From Ron's mouth:


For you noobs, here's a Stossel interview of the FSP:


If everyone here moved to NH, we'd be able to literally take over the state and remove 90% of the laws there. Heck, they're halfway there now!


if people are voting this

if people are voting this down... they are morons... do they even know ron paul is an anarchist... scrubs do some research on your own idols... and anyone who ragged on voting gary johnson... are you kidding me... ROTHBARD HELPED SHAPE THE PLATFORM YEARS AGO.... the saddest part of my whole experience.. which is very little since being a delegate that went to the state caucus... is that most people who support Ron Paul have no idea what he really believes and in fact are flaming liberals/socialists

Guess That Makes Me a Moron

I just downvoted you.


Informed and civil dissent welcome, but . . .

trolls and name callers can stay home. Many people in this community are happy to debate and disagree with anyone who is informed and makes an intelligent argument. You do not seem to be one of them.

free state project

Unfortunately they chose the wrong state. Had they chosen their second choice I would be organizing for it. Too many liberal masses surrounding Mass. Molon Labe!

Malo Periculosam Libertatem Quam Quietum Servitium
On y soit qui mal y pense

There is no "right" or "wrong" state...

... it's where you feel you can participate in and nuture freedom. I hope you are organizing where ever you choose to be!

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams

Right/wrong state

Jason Soren's favotite was Delaware. It's a tiny state surrounded by major population centers. The purpose of the FSP is to take over a state politically. It's a numbers game and the numbers favor Delaware.100 miles long, easy to campaign in. Some precincts have more voters than the total in Del. 3 counties, one already solid conservative (Sussex) Low property taxes, NO sales tax. Centrally located on coast. Relatively mild climate. Great business climate (home to most fortune 500 companies, due to Chancery Court - fast, predictable, business friendly.) Once again - if the purpose is to take over a state politically, the numbers favor Delaware! In fact, I'm thinking of starting The Delaware Project- to correct the mistake made by the FSP.

“...taxes are not raised to carry on wars, but that wars are raised to carry on taxes”
Thomas Paine, Rights of Man

A good website for info on different states/cities

is one called city-data.com .

You can type in a state and then look up a city or area and get on chats or just read them. You are able to get detailed information from people who live in the area.

(Just be aware of realtors and developers running some chats or trolling them to increase their sales. You will know because they will attack anyone mentioning any neg. info in their income area.)


Better than that

I support the Second Vermont Republic.
Secession is the only way out of an empire.


The wife and I pledged (on the extended timeline) :)

We signed up in Tampa at the Rally for the Republic... because we found out from one of the FSPers that you can pledge to go "eventually" instead of in 5 years. I said I'd love to live there, or really anywhere, AFTER it was already a haven of liberty. Until then I'm gonna go to TX and buy a ton of land. :)

How sad...

... that you want others to do the "liberty thing" for you instead of participating and protecting liberty yourselves. How is buying "a ton of land" in Texas going to make you any freer? This is a reflection of dependency on the government (or someone else) doing everything for you. You think when the SHTF, anyone will be FREE to go just anywhere they want?

"If you're not ready to die for it, put the word 'freedom' out of your vocabulary." -Malcolm X

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams

DId you seriously just quote malcom X to me?

Here's a question for ya there buddy: you already part of the FSP? You live in NH? You've already won political office there? Or, I'm sure, you already at least ran for office at a local level in NH right?

.... yeah... thought so.

There are many reasons I have for not moving to NH, and many for moving to TX. If it weren't for the FSP I would categorically NEVER move there. So, because of the FSP, I would trash all other reasons and move to a place I would never live otherewise.

But not till it's done.

Great, you have your reasons...

How am I somehow out of line pointing out that someone who loves freedom should somehow participate in its fruition? Have you donned a uniform or have YOU run for office or are a seated rep??

... yeah... thought so, otherwise you'd be blurting that out immediately. Huh, if you only knew...

Please, then, can you explain how freedom is gained if everyone sits around waiting for someone else to obtain it for you?

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams

moving first chance i get.

moving first chance i get.

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I think it's good, and there is a similar project in Montana and

surrounding states called The Safe Haven States Project:


They haven't developed their site much since it started last year, but their forum board is still active and people do still post on it and it's quite interesting.


I'm a huge fan

Hope to make the move when I finish school.

Can anyone give any updates

Can anyone give any updates about this project? I mean, any updates of how you are changing the State?

What I really would like to know, what are the marijuana laws there and how have people there progressed to change them for the better?

I DO NOT smoke marijuana, BUT I find this a litmus test for any freedom loving community and would love to live in a "potsmoking community" for the sake of freedom itself.

let's at least get hemp legalized

another litmus test should be how many people in the State are on welfare, you won't be able to get these people to help you get you more free and they will be a drain

More reasons to move to NH!

Read what the New Hampshire legislature is doing for freedom at New Hampshire Liberty Alliance: www.nhliberty.org. These folks are elected into office for a reason!

NH’s jury nullification bill actually made an appearance in the media when it first passed:

And it was a FREE-STATER who was on the jury who educated and led the rest of the jurors to nullify the “victimless crime” of growing and using cannabis for religious/medicinal purposes. Read about it at: www.nhjury.com


"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams

A couple sources from the horses mouth




also look them up on face book.
They've had over a dozen participants of the Free State Project elected to their state legislature and many more who get high ratings from the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance.

I think it was last year(I may be wrong about the year) the state budget got cut by, I believe, 12%. That was an actual cut, not a cut to proposed increases.

They have also have an active community doing activism, starting charities and doing all sorts of media.
Unfortunately they are lagging a bit behind with cannabis, but they are working on it and they have made strides in other areas.

They currently have over 1100 early movers(They pledge states you promise to move when the goal of 20,000 participants is reached). They have over 13,000 people pledged so far.

There's plenty more. I haven't made the move yet(hoping to after I finish school) so I'm not the best source, but I do follow them.

I would love to

Except I was spoiled with beautiful southern California weather. I would not last a winter up there.

You wouldn't put on a coat

if it was for liberty?

Establish the next Free State

Establish the next Free State movement in Nevada.

Having a dozen different Free

Having a dozen different Free States kind of defeats the purpose don't you think? There is one Free State and it is NH.

What's the point of having

What's the point of having one, when there's a whole country to liberate?

Yes, if/when I move back to

Yes, if/when I move back to the US, this is my first consideration. My wife has agreed to be open minded about this too.

I really wish you people would have chosen a warmer climate though....