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Transitioning To Rand Paul 2016 Now... Who Is With Me?

Romney's goose is cooked.

I Am Officially Transitioning To RAND PAUL 2016 now...

Who is with me?

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Rand appeals to many voters

Rand appeals to many voters both republican and democrat. It amazes me the number of people that tell me they like Rand and would like to see him run 2016, but were not big supporters of Ron. There are many here that are purists and only accept all or nothing. I understand Rand's mistakes and those here who can not forgive, but I also know that if he were in the WH it is much better than what we had this election or those positioning for 2016. Rand can win a general election and that is a gain for Liberty. I'm in.

Count me out.

Rand had his chance to take over the liberty movement and blew it when he endorsed Willard and suckled at the partisan teat. I can no longer trust a word that comes out of Rand's mouth after his unforgivable betrayal of his own father.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Has anyone asked Ron if he

Has anyone asked Ron if he thinks Rand betrayed him. I would need to hear the words from Ron that Rand betrayed him, he couldn't trust Rand nor would he vote for him. My guess is we see Ron alongside Rand and supporting him going forward.

I MAYBE would pull the lever for Rand---

but he's gonna have to win without a dime of my money. And that goes for Ron too.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

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I wish you well

Good luck with that project. And I look forward to visiting you on the web, at your new, dedicated Rand Paul site, wherever that may be. It definitely won't be the Daily Paul, for the reasons I outlined in my comments below.

I don't want anyone to have the wrong impression about what the DP will become, or what role it will serve to the end discussed in the OP. If you want to hit the ground running on that project, I suggest you begin elsewhere, and ASAP. Being first will give you an advantage. And don't be shy about banning the Anti-Randites. That is how you build walled garden of support. Unfortunately, it creates a warped sense of reality, such as the Daily Paul created for Ron Paul supporters.

There are a lot of Rand Paul haters out there, just as there are a lot of Ron Paul haters out there. Just check the comments in any other website that is not the DP or the Ron Paul Forums. I ended up banning a lot of anti-Rand people from the site during his senate race. It was a real headache.

I was willing to do it for his dad. But in the end, it wasn't even about his dad. It was about the principles. And I'm still willing to do it for that - to continue the DP. But not for some politician. Not for Rand. There's no point, because you don't know where he stands. So you might end up spending a lot of time, and then in the end, you find it was all wasted.

So, In other words, to be more succinct, I'm not with you, and neither is the DP.

But best of luck.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

What does this mean in practice?

Are you saying that Rand-related content may be banned or what?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Yes!

Thanks Michael... I agree.

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I, for one, am very relieved you feel that way.

I have been coming to this site for so long and have learned so much here about so many things from so many different people.

I plan to get behind Rand 100% and am happy to know the DP will never be about one candidate ever again and will instead continue to be a place to read about and exchange some pretty awesome ideas.

I've said before and I'll say it again, thanks so much for all you do.

If being with you involves me

If being with you involves me donating money to another political campaign...

no thanks. I've already donated enough to the Jesse Benton retirement fund.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Rand or Justin - either one - I'm in!

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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

Who's with me?!?!?!

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Ugh.. talk to me in 4 years..

Ugh.. talk to me in 4 years.. I'll make up my mind then.

Not me.

I prayed for Justin Amash to win again for a reason. He won, and for the reason that I prayed.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

It starts now

We must all duplicate the success we had in Iowa and Maine throughout the nation. It took Iowa 4 years to take over the state. Start now.

winers & losers

"Rand Paul certainly came out of this looking very bad as well. He fell in line behind the party masters, banking on some advantage to be gained through an endorsement of Romney. He ended up just looking politically un-savvy and unprincipled. There is little to be gained either, from playing ball with a Party that as inept as the GOP at this point.

"The Ron Paul movement is a big winner here. The GOP told the libertarians in the party to get lost, and the GOP paid for it. Interestingly, both Iowa and Nevada, where Ron Paul supporters gained control of the state party, both went to Obama after the Romney campaign actively fought to disenfranchise Ron Paul supporters. I guess the GOP got what it wanted there."

-Ryan McMaken

I Will Gladly Work AGAINST Him! RON PAUL RETRIBUTION!

I Will Gladly Work AGAINST Him! RON PAUL R[3]TRIBUTION!

Night and Day.

:)

Wisdom Strategies

He doesn't need us.

He has that whole crooked gang of scumbag douches, the GOP to back him. Libertarian is the only way to go otherwise you're just prolonging the agony.

Now it's about the Constitution and the fight to defend it.

Rand Who? is nothing like the old man.

pizzon that little curly-headed neocon scheisskopf Rand Paul.

no one who believed in the old man should give that little prick
the time of day.

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I've started a Facebook page that is more generally designed for Republicans to pledge to never fall for a RINO candidate again. If that's you, please join and share:

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ABSOLUTELY! We have work to

ABSOLUTELY!

We have work to do, let's support Rand Paul and stay united around him, MSM will go after him big time, remember what they did in 2010 during his campaign for Senate.

Before supporting him for presidency, let's make sure he wins another term in Senate, that victory is crucial.

No. We Need To Make Randy Boy LOSES His Seat In The Senate :)

No. We Need To Make Randy Boy LOSE His Seat In The Senate :)

RON PAUL R[3]TRIBUTION!

Wisdom Strategies

That's a Stupid Statement

Rand Paul a true conservative who knows the Constitution and votes the way we would like all the Senate to vote. Yes, that's definitely a stupid statement.

We are in another war for our Independence.

This time I think we can get

This time I think we can get Fox on our side...

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I wouldn't mind seeing Maine Governor Paul LePage run

I'm in. I think many of the

I'm in. I think many of the naysayers will see that Rand has a much stronger hand in 16 because of his endorsement of Romney. He will not betray us.

He already betrayed us!

Rand endorsed Romney on 6-7-12.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/06/rand-pa...

His father was still running.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

I am

I am ready to enlist. Lets do this. I am not interested in being a pure liberty fairy. I am a liberty warrior. I want Rand to kick butt against the warmongers Rubio and Ryan. I am ready!

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May the LORD make His face shed light upon you and be gracious unto you
May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace
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The DP is a forum for the ideas that Ron Paul represents

In my opinion Rand is a strategist who is concerned with getting elected. He's not a messenger for the liberty movement so it doesn't make sense to obsess over him on DP. Nothing wrong with defending him when necessary but we should respect Michael Nystrom as owner of the site and avoid pushing Rand Paul like others tried to push Gary Johnson. Rand doesn't need this movement, it's not the center piece of his strategy, he's trying to win over the 50 million idiots that just voted for Romney. He decided to play a much bigger game . .

RP = Messenger for Liberty.

+1, well observed, fair & civil.