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Granny Warriors PayPal Account Shutdown!

I was thinking about making a donation to the Granny Warriors last night:

http://grannywarrior.chipin.com/recount-%5B2%5D

... the "Chip In" button successfully lead me to a PayPal screen, but to avoid conflicts with my wife, I decided to wait until today (the last day) to see if others would make up the remaining $25,000. This afternoon I saw that they had $21,700, so I thought I better pitch in. But now, when I clicked the "Chip In" button, the PayPal screen now says: "This recepient is currently unable to receive money". So I called one of the Granny Warriors using a number that was listed on another thread, and was told that their PayPal account was shut down because of suspected fraudulent activities. The Granny was convinced that there was an intentional effort to thwart their recount effort. So am I.

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Oyate Ron Paul Forums: The

Oyate Ron Paul Forums: The Granny Warriors had set up two separate Chippins for this, the first raised about $40k and the next was to raise the remaining $25k. As the deadline approached and we were only $5k short of the goal, their Paypal account was suspended, making it impossible to use these funds.

HOWEVER, the WTP people stepped up with the necessary funds and tried to make payment but were not allowed to do so. We're not sure exactly why just now. Either the NH Secretary Of State created obstacles or we missed the deadline or both.

A whole bunch of us are trying to figure out what to do about it now. I think it's going to be a long, long night.

They have the money now (at least on loan) .. now the issue is the illegal and artificial deadline that is not documented in the process, and or the refusal to take payment.

We need to find out who reported "suspicious activity" to Paypal.

Apparently there is somebody out there does not want the recount to happen and they were clever enough to exploit this Paypal weakness..

less than 3 hours to go

no one in the whole campaign that can send the 55 k ?

or call hq and ask them to help..

don't drop the ball now..

I cant find any update at all

$^#$%#$!$

&^@%&@!!!!!

What do you expect

They will shut down anything that threatens them.

What gives me hope is that each day, more and more people are waking up to the fact that the Constitution hangs by a thread.

Only Repentance, and Faith in the Atonement of Jesus The Lamb will Save our Beloved Constitution.

Try reading one verse before you start your car.

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PAYPAL IS GARBAGE THEY DO THIS TO EVERYBODY

I HAVE AN ACCOUNT WITH THEM. WATCH THIS IF YOU TAKE IN TO MUCH MONEY THEY FREEZE YOUR ACCOUNT. I COULD HAVE TOLD THEM THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN. PAYPAL IS A SCAM ITS NOT EVEN A BANK SO THEY DONT HAVE TO ABIDE BY BANKING LAWS THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT TO YOU AND PEOPLE STILL USE THEM LIKE THERE GOLD OR SOMETHING. I KEEP NOTHING NADA IN THERE. AS SOON AS MONEY POST FROM EBAY I TAKE IT OUT THRU THE CASH MACHINE. FUCK PAYPAL A BUNCH OF SCUM.

Paypal usually does this to my account just before a money bomb

It has happened on all money bombs. I have no doubt it will happen again on the 21st. and i won't be able to use my card for a few days.

Paypal really is a pain in the butt. Every time I go on vacation they do the same thing, because I'm buying gas in different states. I almost got stuck in the middle of the salt flats because of Paypal..

Apparently, someone sabotaged the effort

someone called paypal about fraud and they froze the account. Now we have even a bigger problem. Take a look here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=90471

Is there anyone here...

...who has experience with the legal standpoint of this situation? Is there perhaps a lawyer who's versed in financial law who could call PayPal on the Granny Warriors' behalf in the morning? PayPal have shut down my account before and they can be completely unreasonable when they want to be. Also, when they decide that they're not going to let you get your account back in order they keep your money. So they'd be stealing from all of us - I really don't want to see that happen here; they need to understand that if they screw this up for us it's going to call down a s**t storm on them.

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Live Free or Die - Amen to that

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Live Free or Die - Amen to that

They CANNOT Keep the money

it would have to be returned to us.

That would be outright theft.

However, paypal may be owned by CFR, so we can sue for conflict of interest.

Is there any link between paypal and Diebold? Again, conflict of interest.

This must be determined!

Who owns Chip-in?

I believe that they are just as complicit, at least if they claim that you can claim the funds right away.

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat meat!

That is interesting.

I reported on another thread that when I tried to donate I got an error that said something to the effect that someone else may be attempting to intercept my session.

I donated 3 times but only once I got it debited to my account.

This is strange...

JB

"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."

call and ask Anyone who

call and ask

Anyone who has that ability please contact granny warriors
828-683-2009 or 409-673-4891

if a problem call and make noice, call campaign headquarter.

will you let them steal your vote ???

Just spoke with Linda Hunnicutt

This is according to Linda Hunnicutt of Grannywarriors, with whom I spoke at 1630 hours pacific time: paypal released and then reversed $55,600 after suspicions of impropriety. Linda was careful not to accuse or speculate and frankly it may not be relevant. Long story short, sufficient funds were initially presented to NH by the deadline today. The paypal reversal interrupted the successful completion of the transfer shortly thereafter. NH has elected to determine by tomorrow whether they will accept funds and allow a recount, due to the issue. Evidently nothing more can be done except to thank Linda, Grannywarrions, and the former NH AG (whose name escapes me at the moment) who have exceeded what the average person would have done given the circumstances. Hoora.

"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." --Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (2 Cranch) 137 (1803)

"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." --Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (2 Cranch) 137 (1803)

The funds were transfered directly from paypal to NH?

Well, since it initially went through, and paypal screwed up, they should allow it.

Especially since if Kucinich proves fraud, NH can be sued for deliberately trying to cover it up.

Besides, it's all over the news - the KNOWN fraud in the case of memory cards that were removed and replaced DURING the voting.

They should WANT to hand-count them, knowing this.

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat meat!

Under those circumstances

to refuse to accept the payment and deny a recount would look pretty darned fishy- and Id hope theyd recognise that. The fate of the restoration of the faith in our voting system should not come down to "aww you forgot to say 'Simon Says'". Any word from the Kucinich side?

Can Anyone verify

what is going on with the recount and the $$$???

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Hubby donated early this afternoon

And he got through to PayPal okay. I sure do hope the Granny Warriors got the amount they needed.

DO RUN RON!!!!!

dodobogo

I dont have time to sift through the speculation

can anyone tell me difinitvely if the recount has been paid for and on schedule? was the payment made on time?

More conspiracy theorists...

Big claims require big evidence. The fact that you're willing to jump on a conspiracy claim so fast with so little evidence says a lot.

Paypal has a reputation for freezing accounts that make a lot of money fast. They have a reputation for freezing accounts for a lot of reasons. You don't have to be a Ron Paul supporter for that to be true.

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red flags

Yep, getting 20K plus in a short period of time will get your paypal account closed. Specially if it was a new account.

My credit card company has shut down my credit card several times for charging several charges around the country. [note, my average month is around 6k because I use my card for business expenses]

My franchiser's credit card possessor shut them down when I charged a 1K bill with them. It was the 1st time they had charged that much at one time. Now they do it all the time.

Bryan

however....

their security is great- they question any large purchase which is GOOD in my opinion... any purchase that doesnt average out is questioned....

paypal is great, but one word of warning *I* discovered...

I too use paypal and just wanted to warn you that NEVER try to pull more than $3000 a day from them - it isnt allowed - I called and complained as I was paying for cruise tickets.... no way they would break it and I had a high balance and been with them for years....

This one is not conspiracy.

This one is not conspiracy. PayPal did the same thing to Alex Tew, creator of themilliondollarhomepage.com, after he had reached a certain point. He switched to another provider then back to PayPal once fraud was cleared.

The paypal account did shut

The paypal account did shut down but I am not sure why. On our site we have to verify who we are every so much money through paypal. I think, but am not sure this has to do with our security and the patriot act. I do not think this happened here though but who knows. It sure is strange it shut down when it did unless someone told them to shut it down.

Fairly posititve I saw on RP forum it is cool & we have the $$$$

I do not understand why people cant seem to understand

"The Universe may not always play fair but at least it's got a sense of humor" ;) - Michael Patrick King

to stop the rumors, why

to stop the rumors, why don't someone just call them and ask...

this happens all the time

Paypal does this all the time when there is a lot of activity on a new account.

Let's keep the freedom train rolling.

Let's keep the freedom train rolling.

Supposedly the whole amount

Supposedly the whole amount has been paid. (Dont quote me on that)

Paypal sucks and this could

Paypal sucks and this could be another example. They've been known to freeze the account if it has major activity in either direction (in or out).

I Believe it shut down AFTER the deadline was over

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat meat!

I don't know...I never

I don't know...I never donated to them but I did hear about them a while back...can't think what would be fraudulent...Perhaps you can send these guys a check?