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Gary Johnson <1%

He got less than 1/2 of Ron's Primary popular vote, and he'll get none of the Libertarian-desired public (welfare) funding for their party.

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Why don't you quit bashing the Libertarians now?

Maybe you should bash the republicans who could use a good dose of Libertarianism in their ideology?

Libertarians are not anarchists.

That's like saying our founders were anarchists.

The Libertarian platform is closest to our founding philosophies.

The real shame of it is that even the supposed "conservatives" think our Constitution is too radical.

They take their oaths and immediately begin breaking them.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Congratulations to the LP for doubling Barr's numbers

Gary was never my candidate, but a lot of people in the LP ARE us, and I like them.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

He got 1% most libertarian

He got 1% most libertarian votes for president ever.

All paper money eventually returns to its real intrinsic value, zero. - Voltaire

He was not the best choice in the least if that was the goal

It's sad that the libertarian tickets best candidate was Gary Johnson. It doesn't surprise me in the least how low of a percentage he got. Now let's say all Ron Paul supporters actually voted for GJ, then THAT would have been an odds are newsworthy % of votes but what would be accomplished for doing that?

We can prop up yet another shady political party that they will then stuff some b.s. fake candidate up into. We saw exactly how the 3rd party is going to play when they are pretending to be a serious contender. They had a TON of 3rd party presidential candidates and dwindled it down to TWO just like the other 2 parties do. Sure they pretended the reasoning was different but to think that propping up the libertarian party is what is going to bring back liberty is as naive as thinking that propping up the republican party is going to bring back our republic.

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GJ received 1580 votes in my district

that is .97%. I am in oHIo.

The guardian

The guardian shows what Johnson polled in each state, while most other sites just have him as "other".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-elections-2012/results/pr...

I wonder

if he had run on Ron Paul's platform what kind of percentage he would have enjoyed! I certainly would have campaigned for him in that case...turning my single vote into many more.

Here's a small consolation for the GJ fans...

My sister worked at her precinct where they separate the ballots - candidates from issues. She did say she saw quite a few ballots for Gary Johnson.

Record Breaking! Whoo! Hoo! -- The Trend is What Counts!

From the LP:

Gary Johnson Breaks Ed Clark’s 1980 Vote Record of 921,128 Votes for President of the United States.

2012 Libertarian Presidential Ticket of Gov. Gary Johnson and Judge Jim Gray More Than DOUBLED the 2008 Vote Total of Bob Barr and Wayne Root.

http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results

Top 3 States for Gov. Gary Johnson and Judge Jim Gray
New Mexico - 3.5% of the Vote

Montana – 2.9% of the Vote

Alaska – 2.5% of the Vote

2 Key Factors that Held Down Gary Johnson’s Vote Total

Money Fact: Republicans and Democrats Spent $2 Billion on the Presidential Campaigns of Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.

Libertarians raised and spent $3 Million for the Presidential Campaign of Gov. Gary Johnson.

Romney and Obama Outspent Gary Johnson 667 to 1.

Media Fact: News Media Showered the Mitt Romney and Barack Obama Campaigns With More Than 1,000 Times the News Coverage that they Devoted to Gov. Gary Johnson and his Libertarian Presidential Campaign.

“It’s a great day to be a Libertarian,’ said Harry Browne. Gov. Gary Johnson, Judge Jim Gray, and our 580 Libertarian Party Candidates Make Us Proud to be Libertarians.

More Election News to Come. Stay Tuned.
Yours for liberty,

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Executive Director
National Libertarian Party

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Communist

The Socialist/Communist party people were smart in going into the Democratic party and these people voting for Democrats are voting for communist.

The Libertarians have to do the same thing you need to stay in the GOP and kick those Rhinos out. In Minnesota it has taken since the 2008 to accomplish this, but they are still in the State Central Committees.

Folks of daily paul you need to take up these positions within your local, district and state levels right now
if we have any chance of having any Liberty minded candidate to win the nomination in 2016 if there is any country left by then.

What are the mechanics of

What are the mechanics of getting those people out of the state and central committees? I don't know how all of this political structure stuff works. I just found Ron Paul less than a year ago. Thanks!

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Strip your car of any Ron Paul or the like stickers.

Put on a Romney/Ryan one if your conscience can live with that.

Go to your local GOP Central Committee and join if there is an open slot.
Plan along with any other Ron Paul supporters to work with you.

If you get on study Roberts Rules and the local and State rules.
There may be meeting requirement and if not fulfilled such as
missing 3 meetings in a row can cause removal. Keep calender notes.
If they are neo-con rino types remove them.

If not hang out and observe until you can get on.

This takes commitment so think it over carefully.Once you have control you will have the power so use it very wisely.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

Thank you Pollman

For addressing the reality of the commitment. I appreciate your candid words. I have alot of thinking to do. Have a nice weekend.

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How many are asleep? 99% is grim.

This result shows just how many have bought into the right-left paradigm. It looks like 99+%. We have a lot of work to do. The crashing economy will help us a lot.

That result shows nothing

other than what those that are wide awake already know: The LP is another country club, just like the one we need to get rid of in the GOP; the difference is that the LP's isn't worth the energy...

I know about 15 people that voted for Ron Paul in the primaries, of them only ONE voted GJ (most didn't vote, a few wrote in Ron Paul), the LP and GJ just didn't cut it, that's the reality of the situation.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

Again, the problem with the

Again,
the problem with the Libertarian party is its political belief of no government, which makes forcing people to circle around a candidate hard to do.

Southern Agrarian

"Libertarian party is its political belief of no government"

You're mistaking Anarchists for Libertarians.

Anarchists aren't Libertarians. Most are Communists standing next to Libertarians holding a black flag screaming: "I'm an enemy of the state!!!"

The Libertarian principle of nonaggression describes how we effect political change, not how we defend peoples liberty. I'm happy to use governmental force against those who'd take your liberty, that's called serving justice. Libertarians are all about justice which stems from liberty.

Libertarians want a government that does one thing, the only thing government should ever do, the only legitimate purpose of government force, to meet injustice (those who'd take your liberty) with collective force.

"Freedom, liberty, and their common defense."

No,

anarchists are not communists. The image of violence being associated with anarchism is a perversion of the true philosophy. Check into it.

I know very well what Anarchists pretend to be

But when asked to explain themselves, they can't.

All they can seem to do is attack people and ridicule faith. (Like Communists)

If you ignore all their BS and let them explain themselves, they can't. They think they'll get justice from a free market.

What they get is more oppression and injustice from the guy (or collective) that can buy the best army. They can't explain what it is they hope to replace government with to get justice, because what they describe starts sounding a lot like government.

They represent the opposite of what Libertarians are. They think they can ignore what causes injustice, what causes people to use force to take what they unjustly want, our covetous nature. They offer naivety, and Libertarians offer the best solution possible.

They're either useful idiots (which I don't believe) or simply agents of change who can't be honest. What I say they are is what I told you, Communists throwing rocks through windows holding a black flag and screaming I'm an enemy of the state.

I judge people by their actions and the only thing they'll ever create is a police state to deal with them.

So what are we left with; profane and foul mouthed people who seem to be completely naive and want a police state; looks like a Communist, quacks like a Communist, must be a Communist.

Again,

what you describe has nothing to do with the true philosophy of anarchy. I hope you can understand that. Sure, there are lots of perverted people out there claiming to be any number of things but don't mistake what they are for what truly is. Libertarianism and Anarchy are not opposites.

Take a brief look for clarity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy

I like how Immanuel Kant summarized anarchy as being, "Law And Freedom without Violence."

Law And Freedom without Violence.?

More like:

"Law and Freedom without Justice"

An Anarchist needs to believe that they can make a covetous mans nature disappear by snapping their fingers; that they'll get justice in a free market even though they're surrounded by violent and covetous people.

What you get is injustice and slavery to whichever warlord can buy the most muscle.

Anarchists can't tell you what they want to create to serve justice. I've said it many times, and can't help noticing that you still haven't tried.

You're either naive or a self aware Judas Goat.

Anarchists make great slaves, because they can never understand that their Masters don't care that you're a good person.

The man who'd be your God knows he's a covetous man. He sees you as just another soulless animal here to serve him; an obedient animal who'll just keep right on laboring under his whip. because you won't defend liberty with collective force (violence).

As you've stated, you condemn the very idea of doing so: Law And Freedom without Violence

You could

work on your premise. This scenario you've imagined and speak about as if it is a reality of existence is not a thing that I accept. A master had is a master chosen. I do not subject to any perceived authority outside of myself. I am slave to no one. If I am violated by another I can choose to defend myself and rightfully so. I respect the rule of just laws and freedom is the ultimate goal. As an anarchist I don't believe in allowing any group (government) to maintain a monopoly on violence. I choose to defend myself and my property, if necessary. I do not desire to delegate this responsibility to any other to act on my behalf. Perhaps this is the key point you haven't seen beyond. Do you recognize an evil nature that must be controlled by government violence/justice? If so, than this is our disagreement.

That is not the LP's belief.

Obviously, if you've followed them at all.

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

It feels good.

Writing in Ron Paul feels even better today than it did yesterday.

Time to take back our party. They now know.

The Republican party is done without us, and its leadership can't pretend otherwise. They couldn't even beat Obama without us.

Time for those who attacked Libertarians, cheated us, ridiculed us, and defined us as their enemies to get what's justly coming to them; a full scale invasion and takeover.

How?

Is this a very, very long-term plan you have in mind? Because the prospects for a GOP takeover in the next election cycle are zero. They rewrote the rules to kill off any possibility of a delegate strategy. Any grassroots campaigns will be squashed easily under the new rules.

And if there's no way to get rid of the PTB in the next cycle, then the rules will be the same or worse in the cycle after that. Watch them fall in love with the super-delegate idea the way the Dems do it -- twenty percent of the delegate votes in that party are controlled by a small handful of party loyalists. Keeps out the riff-raff I guess.

I wish the PTB in the GOP believed that the Republican party is done without us. I wish the total number of Ron Paul write-ins and Libertarian/Constitutional third party votes was large enough to convey that message, but it wasn't. Not even close.

I don't know what explanation they'll settle on for why Mitt lost, or how they'll address it with the next candidate they pick, but I'm not going out on a limb at all to predict: the result will be ugly.

Because while most were focusing on the Presidential race

Others were getting into position:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/07/ron-paul-republicans-win-h...

And over the next 2 years, the numbers in the state and local GOPs will rise. Instead of the old guard thinking they can go back in January and get their old jobs back, they will find their seats taken, because we didn't quit the party like they expected. They won't pick the candidate, we will.

Either they move toward us...

or they squash their own party for good. It's a win-win.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Then squash it is

You look at a site like redstate where officially they say they'll support the GOP nominee no matter what, but they make a specific exception for Ron Paul. If the GOP were to move in our direction they would lose all of *that* kind of Republican. Plus, the PTB in the party are the ones that hate us most. So no, they're not going to move in our direction.

What direction then? The details will be worked out soon enough, but the one thing that's clear is that it will require bombs, missiles and drones in large quantities.

Obviously THAT kind of Republican isn't helping the GOP...

since they lost in 2008 and now 2012.

I don't play, I commission the league.

But the GOP PTB are THAT kind of Republican

They aren't interested in the GOP per se, only in advancing their own agenda, and it's a very anti-liberty agenda. Very bomb-oriented. They're not going to see themselves as the problem because they see themselves as the *goal*.