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It's time to demand your state legislators invoke a Constitutional Convention

http://www.conconcon.org/
Rather than wait to see the next infringement upon our Constitutional protections we must urge our local politicians to vote in favor of a Constitutional Convention to at least demonstrate support of freedom and to demonstrate our resistance to Governments encroaching upon and disregarding our God given rights. We can't afford to wait another four years, now is the time, perhaps it might awaken a bit of patriotism in those politicians who have clearly demonstrated their lack thereof. Let's find out just who will affirm their allegiance to the Constitution over their party. All that is necessary is for 34 States to declare their intention to convene. Write your State legislators and goad them about how Congress has usurped their powers by passing unconstitutional laws, after all it was the States that enacted the Constitution originally.



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What using bought and paid for politicians,

That is nuts

Constitutional convention v constitutional oversight commission

Be very careful of what you wish for. Seating a convention opens the door to rewriting the entire Constitution from scratch. You should remember the original intent of the convention called in 1787 was to make improvements to the Articles of Confederation, not to rewrite them. If a constitutional convention is called the result could well be a rewriting.

Keep in mind Rahm Emanuel’s political dictum, “never let a crisis go to waste. The same could be said for not letting a good constitutional convention go to waste. The delegates to a constitutional conventional will be, guess who, Establishment hacks from both parties. It will end up being a sales job hyped by the Establishment media plugging the virtues of taking America back from those nasty old rich guys. A convention could likely replace the Republic with the Socialist Union of Amerikan States.

There is another solution to restoring states rights that isn't dangerous as a convention. That is a constitutional oversight commission amendment to the Constitution to give the states the power to nullify any action or measure of the federal government's legislative, executive or judicial branch; past, present, and future. The states were the signatories to the Constitution. It is their document, not the people’s. It is easier to keep fifty states in check than one super powerful federal government.

I found the amendment while reading William J. Watkins, Junior's: Reclaiming the American Revolution ; The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions and Their Legacy Mr . Watkins is a Research Fellow at the Independence Institute

Constitutional Oversight Commission Amendment

Section 1. The Constitutional Commission shall settle questions presented by the several states concerning the constitutionality of measures or actions taken by the government of the United States.

Section 2. The Constitutional Commission shall be composed of one Commissioner from each state, elected every second year by the people thereof from two candidates chosen by the state legislature, and the electors chosen by the state legislature, and the electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for the electors of the most numerous branch of the state legislature; each Commissioner shall have one vote.

Section 3. No person except a natural born citizen shall be eligible for the office of Commissioner; nor shall any person be eligible for the office who shall not have attained the age of 35 years, and been 14 years a resident within the United States, and been nine years a resident of that state for which he shall be chosen. No person shall be elected to the office of Commissioner more than four times.

Section 4. When vacancies happen by resignation, or otherwise, during the recess in the legislature of any state, the executive thereof may make temporary appointments until the next meeting of the legislature, which shall choose two candidates to present to the people to fill the vacancy.

Section 5. The Constitutional Commission shall assemble it least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the third day in January, unless it shall appoint a different day. The Constitutional Commission shall choose its Chairman and other officers. The Commission shall be the judge of the election returns and qualifications of its own members, and three-fourths of the Commissioners shall constitute a quorum to do business. The Commission may determine the rules of its proceedings. The commission shall keep a journal of the proceedings, and from time to time publish the same.

Section 6. No Commissioner shall receive compensation for his services out of the Treasury of the United States. No Commissioner shall, during his time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the authority of the United States.

Section 7. Whenever the Chairman of the Constitutional Commission shall receive petitions from one-fifth of the legislatures of the several states requesting a ruling on the constitutionality of a specific measure or action of the government of the United States, the Commission shall convene. The act or measure of the national government shall be void and no force if three-fourths of the Commissioners present vote against its constitutionality.

Section 8. The Constitutional Commission shall not sit as a Convention as prescribed in Article V of the Constitution of the United States.

Reprinted with permission of the author from:
Reclaiming the American Revolution:
The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions and Their Legacy
William J. Watkins, Jr.

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While there are certain

While there are certain disadvantages ti a ConCon...there is one major advantage. In a ConCon the fifty states are again different countries...hence if some dont ratify the new constitution they in effect seceed from the union and are then able to write their own....there may be some states that hold back from ratification just for that purpose, IE:Texas, Alaska, Washington, maybe a few others. As unlikely as it is we may just be able to scrape a new Republic out of it.

If the current government is incapable of following the law

as it is now, what makes you think they'll follow a new one?

NO kidding...

samadamscw...

That is the point right there. People will not even protest one day for their own rights... Everybody thinks they are the exception, until they come to their door. And when they do, they have no one to stand up for them... So the tyranny continues. Divided people are easily conquered. They do most of the work on that, themselves...

The people are their own answer to their problems. But they want other people to do ALL THE WORK to save them... Is it no wonder that the people they allow to have authority over them, only choose to save themselves, at the people's expense...

Amen!

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Make no mistake, the groups pushing for this are

communists.

They have no intention of protecting Liberty.

Do not be taken in by them, Chessienut.

Several groups have managed to get nearly enough States to call a convention already. There would be some legal wrangling about timing of the calls, but the Constitution is pretty clear, there is no time limit.

I think we are two States shy. This is a serious danger.

I picked up a book once at my library, then another, then another, then another. They were all individual versions of "new constitutions" that people have been planning to ram down our throats for years. Some of them in the form of a series of amendments, most of them, complete re-writes, all of them would destroy the last vestiges of any protection for Liberty.

Not with today's elites who would attend

We should pick an important and unifying issue and fight. Build coalitions and keep focused. One primary issue, then expand from that success.

http://www.dailypaul.com/262265/lots-of-people-here-are-talk...

OMG NO!!!! Do you really

OMG NO!!!! Do you really trust those guys to amend our Constitution? Hell no!!

Blessings )o(

A fool's errand.

There is absolutely no way you can guarantee that a ConCon would in any way be limited.

There is no way to prevent the same corrupt Congress that put us in this mess, from controlling every aspect of it, even from appointing themselves as delegates, or their cherry picked business buddies.

There's nothing that can limit what the ConCon can or can not do.

Once assembled, everything is in their hands.

It has to do with principle of Law.

Such a body is deemed to have ultimate authority.

They could even anoint themselves as a governing council and make it up as they go along. (yes, that is possible)

At the least, there is nothing to stop them from offering up an entirely new constitution, even one that doesn't amend the present one at all, just like they did with the AoC.

They could peddle a new system, say, a parliamentary one, a pure democracy even, and simply say that it takes effect when any certain small number has ratified. They might make this number a mere majority of States —26, or they might make it a mere 40% or 20 States, or they might go so far as to say only 9 States like the original Constitution, or worse, any TWO States.

Of course, it only takes effect for those that adopt it, but what makes you think in short order, all the States won't do so?

Especially once a new government under the new system is formed, States would be left with a tax burden and debt, and no representation in the new government. They'd be tied financially to the other States, and unable to break free.

So just like the last time around, they'd all eventually join in.

And why would they adopt this new likely horrible system? Same reason they adopted the Constitution - it was one of only two choices: a bad status quo, or a new direction. People will chose the new direction in the face of such a choice. We know the Constitution is flawed, just like they knew the AoC was flawed. The Constitution was adopted because there was no competing proposal to it. It was adopt the Constitution or be stuck with an ineffective AoC.

The same will happen with a ConCon. And be warned - the tendency here is toward greater centralized power - not less of it. The very process nearly dictates that result.

The only process that results in limited government is a treaty based process like the Articles of Confederation. And this will only result after a war, and in our modern case, this war will by necessity, have to be for our very survival and the foe will have to be the government in Washington.

If all of those conditions are not met, you will not see anything like a ConCon produce anything remotely friendly to Liberty.

That's a stupid idea.

The last thing we need is for our current socialist governments calling a constitutional conventions so they can solidify their socialist behavior.

I suspect that has already happened. In 1913 and in 1933.

Check out the second link in my comment below. This is a documented account of how the bankers have legally taken over America to set up their socialist state.

There is also a very good book on the subject that is free to download at www.mises.org. It is called "The People's Pottage" by Garet Garret. It makes for very interesting reading by someone close to the action who was a contemporary of FDR.

http://mises.org/books/pottage.pdf

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

I'm hooked at the forward.

Thanks David, for bringing me the People's pottage.

Garret is a thoughtful writer. It will be pleasant journey.

Free includes debt-free!

Agreed

A constitutional convention in the current political atmosphere of this country would be a disaster.

Just restore the original Constitution.

The one in place today is apparently one that was put in place in 1871. The original Constitution for the united States was suspended by President Lincoln in 1861 I believe. The present one is a corporate Constitution (every company has one) and the prevailing law is the Law of the Sea (Admiralty Law) which is fundamentally authoritarian.

http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org

http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org/what-is-the-republi...

Here is an excerpt from the second link, the history of the Constitution:

"Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens of mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) “Hypothecated” all property within the Federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. Citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a “beneficiary” of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the Federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets, and labor of their “subjects,” the 14th Amendment U.S. Citizen to the Federal Reserve System. In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States Corporation all of the credit “money substitute” it needed.

Like any debtor, the Federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the Federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their “economic slaves,” the U.S. Citizens, as collateral against the federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks, forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the People have exchanged one master for another.”

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Could it get any worse?

The last time this happened the crooks gave us the Constitution and took away a perfectly good constitution called the Articles of Confederation.
grant

It's time...

the States and the People demand that the freaks in DC start enforcing and following the Constitution that we've already got. :\

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

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Constitutional Convention?

These crooks aren't fit to even touch the Constitution let alone change it.

There are already

new constitutions that have been written, just waiting for the right time to implement. It's like the Patriot Act which was written many many years before it was even talked about publicly,just waiting for the right time to slip it in.

The first constitutional convention was secret. They did whatever they wanted. Luckily, the Founders had some wise men involved, and some anti-federalist pressure. A ConCon today would be the same thing--it would be a free-for-all. This time it would be a coup against liberty. There are no rules for a ConCon; they would make it up as they went along.

I thought

Restoring the Republic measnt to join the GOP, become a national delegate, go to meetings, get a seat, get a chair, take an office and do everything by the constitution.. all the votes,, for those who take oaths, keep them.. to change the GOP to a constitution-libertarian party.

Party machinations have zero to do with the Constitution.

I'm not sure why you have them confused.

The Constitution doesn't even mention parties.

It does not contemplate their existence.

Their existence is wholly unnecessary to function under the Constitution.

And I would counter that their very existence is an existential threat to it.

Factionalism has thwarted the Constitution at every turn, and relegated it to toilet paper.

Why should we try to take over a faction then?

Should we not be trying to destroy all the factions?

Should we not be trying to render them powerless?

Con Con is a BAD idea.

Here in Michigan, we have a hard enough time just getting the "conservative" Republicans to vote correctly when it comes to economic and personal freedoms. Given the chance, the 2nd Amendment would be gutted, the Patriot Act would be part of the Constitution, along with NDAA, Federal Government would be allowed to be the welfare state it already is, and crony capitalism would be codified as the supreme law of the land. NO! What needs to be done is work at the local level to replace your State Congressmen, then move up the U.S. House, and then the Senate. Get them to obey the Constitution we already have, not give them a chance to replace it. Can you imagine the stuff that would be in it with the state reps from VT, CA, WA and NY?? Just look at the laws their state government passes.

An EXTREMELY bad idea since

An EXTREMELY bad idea since we're living in an age of selfishness and big government, not one of liberty and small government.

You ain't just

whistling Dixie.

This article is wrong for

This article is wrong for many reaons.

First, a Constitutional Convention would eliminate our current Constitution and replace it with what the writers really wanted. We can pretty well rest assured that they are not going to limit the power of government, and they damn well wouldn't have a Second Amendment. Face it, in the early days of the Republic, our elected public servants were some of the best educated, and best intentioned men in the nation. Today, they are probably the worst!

Secondly, we don't need to amend the Constitution, and we damn well don't need a new one. We need to have our Constitution ENFORCED.

And thirdly, since our politicians ignore the Constitution now, what would make you think that any amendment (or new Constitution) would fare any better?

We don't need to change our Constitution - we need to change our politicians, and probably create a new party since the Democrat and Republican wings of our one-party system are controlled by the special interests.

OK...I'm seeing all the downvotes

and negative comments yet I see no constructive responses as to how we keep Obama from furthering his mission of dismantling the Constitution. This guy must be held in check for the next four years and I see nothing but the States becoming involved that could accomplish this. Our Federal Government has relinquished its role in enforcing our Constitutional protections and has surrendered the most basic rights and responsibilities it had to the Executive branch. When it willfully surrendered it's sole right to declare Posse Commitatus that it has historically enjoyed to the sole discretion of the President under the NDAA it was apparent that we must resort to extreme measures. Just explain to me any other alternative that is available to stop Obama and his apparent goal.

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

Nullify !

Nullify !

Nullification by the states!

State legislatures making certain federal laws illegal in their states, too. Already happening.

What would the Founders do?

If he's dismantling this Constitution, what makes you

think he'll respect the next one? Unless of course, it's one with terms he prefers, which essentially means, you're giving him exactly what he wants.

The alternative to stop him is to have the Congress stop him. This is the answer for any bad President.

If the Courts are the problem, Congress can impeach them too.

If Congress is the problem, then the States have to step up to the plate and nullify unconstitutional statutes Congress passes.

"Nullify" does not mean just to declare a statute unconstitutional, void, and of no effect within that State, it means the State has to back up that declaration with force. They have to be willing to arrest federal agents enforcing that statute "under color of law."

They have to be willing to commit troops if D.C. sends in their own in response.

If they aren't willing to go the distance, then there is no nullification and the Feds control everything.

And one last thing, if you think Obama is the problem, you seriously need to stop drinking the kool-aid.

It makes no difference if Obama or Romney, or McLame, or Kerry or whomever would be in the White House, the SAME POLICIES would be pursued. You really need to do more homework.

I'm with you on all

We need to light a fire on our state Representatives and I initially thought the Constitutional Convention would be the way to start it. Perhaps the Convention isn't the way to go but I am gratified the responses and interest this thread has caused. Regardless those of us with the sanity and sense to proceed seem to be in agreement that the way we should proceed is through our state Representatives. As far as who I think our immediate threat is, it is Priebus and his numerous sycophants who have commandeered the GOP to be nothing but a Democratic gofer.

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.