Rand Paul for President: 2016 - What must he do to earn your trust back? He hasn't earned mine yet.
Submitted by OldWest on Wed, 11/07/2012 - 17:57For Republicans, there is a silver lining to the re-election of Barack Obama. The door is now open for real change in 2016. The recently adopted Romney Rules at the RNC, which would have locked out any true democratic participation and guaranteed eight more years of GOP establishment, top-down, Brahman-style, domination, are now moot. The gate is open.
The change that will be debated in the next presidential election will not be about tax percentages, or troop withdrawal timetables, or welfare for Big Bird, or who should be the next chairman of the Federal Reserve. The change that will be debated will be about fundamentals, about monetary policy, about the philosophical underpinnings of our foreign policy, about the relevancy of the American constitution and where we are headed as a people.
It will not be the red team against the blue team, espousing the same things in different degrees, rather it will be about real differences.
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Honest, Fearless and Relentless
That is what I would like from Rand Paul. After the Romney endorsement, I don't see that happening.
Keep Rand in the Senate
We need someone reliable there to throw a wrench in the works as often as possible.
He's good in the Senate...
...but I'd rather see him in the White House.
Pander to libertarians for 4 years
He will not be the only libertarian republican running. He will have to be better than the others. That means he better be pandering to libertarians for the next 4 years.
As a former hairdresser...I think he perms
his hair and is keeping it a secret from us
Endorse his father for
Endorse his father for President in 2016.
The Truth Is That I'd Still Take My Chances With Rand
I don't think I could ever rally around Rand anywhere near the way I did around his father. I recognize that he might be trying to pull off a "strategy" of cozying up to the establishment and all that. But that aside, there's something about Rand that rubs me the wrong way. Maybe it's that he sounds like he's talking down to me or something when I listen to him. And I definitely don't think he understands the economic (or civil liberties) issues like his father does.
Having said that, though, if he ran in 2016, I'd absolutely vote for him and I'd probably even donate money (possibly even as much as I did for his dad). But I can't imagine that he'll ever be the hero to me the way his dad is.
Judge Nap 2016!
Forget Rand.
If he left the GOP or renounced it
then I'd be all good. But if he continues to pretend that the GOP institutionally is the answer (I mean, working in it is one thing, but exalting it...)
Replace the GOP, take the pundits and country by surprise. History NEVER cares about our perceptions, and constantly surprises us. Because we refuse to consider the obvious forces of history around us.
My idea: replace the GOP
http://www.dailypaul.com/262195/awesome-next-step-replace-re...
ron paul already tried that.
ron paul already tried that. it didn't work out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFxvy9XyUtg
In other words...
...if he gave up all hope of ever succeeding in politics out of spite for the GOP, that'd be all good?
I don't think so.
Rand's doing more work for Liberty in the GOP than he ever could outside the GOP. He's following Ron's strategy, and it's working.
Let it be.
NEXT RON PAUL DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PAUL
Stopped being obsessed with the idea that the next Paul has to be a Paul.Yesterday Justin Amash retained his seat in congress with 58% of the vote after REFUSING TO ENDORSE ROMNEY. He has principles and did not worry about incurring the rath of the Republican powers that be.He is also humble, note his convention speech where he said no one can ever replace RP.
professorjoe
I thought he did
endorse romney? I still like the guy a lot and I don't care about stupid endorsements. I get it when it comes to having to endorse the party. Not all politicians are like Ron Paul operating from a rural, non media motivated part of Texas. Amash is awesome.
No one is saying it HAS to be Rand
...we're saying Rand is the best option as of right now, but that could change. Maybe Amash will gain a lager profile over the next few years, we'll see.
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Amash is my focus. Shirts, stickers, flyers, etc.
"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul
Justin Amash is Ron Paul version 2.0
Thank you.
Say the following in every '16 debate/interview...
"I am running to end the IRS and income tax and replace it with nothing, and to cut spending the commensurate amount to do so and balance the budget; this means to end corporate welfare, reform entitlements, scale back our military adventurism and nation building drastically, and end the stupid war on drugs and other costly infringements on our civil liberties."
If he pounds the above message, I will not only forget the Romney endorsement, I'll move to Iowa within the year to work on nothing but his Iowa caucus '16 victory.
It's hard to imagine anything he can do...
to win my trust back. His betrayal of his own father was unforgivable.
I don't play, I commission the league.
He didn't betray Ron...
That is a misperception of some of Ron's supporters, which I am certain Ron himself would not share.
Rand is executing Ron's strategy that started when Ron left the Libertarian Party years ago and joined the GOP. Rand represents everything Ron has been working to bring about: a libertarian in Republican clothing with real political influence.
You are right
And I am more angry with his chumming up with the likes of Sean Hannity
who is a two faced sneak that did everything in his power to derail Dr Paul's campaign while pretending neutrality.Rand is banking on getting 50% of the movement to follow him and replacing everyone who doesn't with 3 establishment types who follow the talk radio elites.
professorjoe
You mean...
...you're angry at Rand for getting media coverage?
Isn't that a good thing?
Throughout the whole campaign weren't all of us complaining about how the MSM ignored Ron? But now when Rand gets some coverage, it means he's evil?
In a recent interview Rand
In a recent interview Rand said he thought his father was the best man for the job. Then he said he still thinks Ron is the best man for the job. We will have to wait and see if this strategy works. At least Rand has one of the best voting records in the senate.
Flip-flopper.
He said that in an obscure interview but endorsed Willard live on Faux News.
I don't play, I commission the league.
He said it repeatedly throughout the campaign...
...and never said that Romney was a better man for the job than Ron. What he said was that Romney was better than Obama, and he said that once it had become obvious that Romney would be the Republican nominee.
And now as expected, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan will go
head to head in 2016.
Half of America will probably get confused about their names, and vote for Paul Ryan on accident. I'm voting "Paul" this year... oops.
Can I puke now please?
OldWest
Now that is funny! I don't care who you are. I am laughing so hard and I can't even tell my wife why right now. WHEW! Thanks, I needed that.
Whats so funny?
That is how the Independence Party got be be the 3rd largest party in New York State. People going down to the board of elections, disgusted with the 2 party's and telling hard of hearing clerks to "change my registration to independent"
professorjoe
Joe
I was laughing at his comment about the voting stooges mixing up their names and voting for the wrong guy.