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McCain/Palin Beat Romney/Ryan in Total Votes

Submitted by joeinmo on Wed, 11/07/2012 - 19:47
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Interesting factoid:

Total votes cast

McCain/Palin 2008: 58,343,671 votes

Romney/Ryan 2012: 57,649,055


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Real US Presidential Popular Vote in 2012

Submitted by will4liberty on Sun, 11/25/2012 - 18:45.

Total sum of votes from current US President Barrack Obama/Joe Biden: 64,498,468

Republican Nominee Challenger Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan: 60,298,998

Libertarian Nominee Gary Johnson: 1,200,000

News source Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012

The important "factoids"

Submitted by truth please on Sun, 11/25/2012 - 14:01.

to me is the fact that Obama got far approx. 9 million less votes than 08, AND HE STILL WON!!!
The GOP hit a wall and needs to move away from nominating Bush type republicans.

Virginia was supposed to be a Romney win. He lost by approx. 3%. This in a year that Obama was beatable.

A bunch of other states where biased GOP polling (usually broadcast on FOX or some neocon radio show) put Romney as a likely winner, FL, WI, IA, CO, NV, some dopes had Romney winning PA.

The GOP "momentum" was created by biased polling in an attempt to excite "the base" who were never excited in the first place.

Romney surpassed Mccain

Submitted by Achieve Balance on Sun, 11/25/2012 - 11:18.

This thread needs to be updated. Romney is currently about a million ahead of Mccain. It looks like about 6 million less people voted this election. That is a pretty big number..almost 5%...enough to swing the election. A good republican candidate could have brought those people out.

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You are right about that.

Submitted by SteveMT on Sun, 11/25/2012 - 12:25.

Romney/Ryan: 59,134,475
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/06/mitt-romney-john-mc...

Don't get me wrong, they are still losers in my book. Thanks for that info.

For some reason

Submitted by western skier on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 16:16.

I find this really hard to believe. The GOP had the momentum going into election day.

Well, dont pick moderates anymore that have a proven record of losing.

The Mormom religion was a issue to alot of Evangelicals

Submitted by Miguel on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 20:36.

The Mormom religion was a issue to alot of Evangelicals

Just goes to show how stupid

Submitted by xbanks2 on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 14:26.

Just goes to show how stupid it was for the GOP to put Romney, who lost to McCain, up against Obama, who beat McCain.

how sad is that?

Submitted by John C on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 14:12.

how sad is that?

Another Interesting Stat (Maybe)

Submitted by bundesbauer on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 14:01.

I believe, at least the popular vote totals I saw yesterday, that McCain/Palin 2008 also had more votes than Obama/Biden 2012.

Never mind

Submitted by bundesbauer on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 15:43.

Looked up the totals, and Obama 2012 is over 60 million, so votes have been added since I last saw so never mind.

Listening to WA news, tens of thousands yet to be counted

Submitted by Promisekept on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 12:07.

Because our state does only mail-in/drop-box voting, the deadline for ballots to be counted being received is days after the election's "over". WA state is in the news again because our governor's race is at a too close to call, 51/49%, Dem over GOP.

Listening to the news this morning, they announced that tens of thousands of ballots have yet to be counted. What responsible media outlet would pretend to be precise with their totals when there are still many ballots yet to be counted, especially from our military they pretend to support?

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Iteresting stat...

Submitted by Johannes on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 12:05.

Look at this one!
http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c2.0.403.403/p...

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Wow! what a glaring stat, you won't see the neocons showing that

Submitted by truxtonc on Sun, 11/25/2012 - 12:45.

Gee, who would have guessed that? Crazy constitutionalist Ron Paul would have won.

people were more apathetic

Submitted by annica2 on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 07:56.

people were more apathetic this election.

The Arrogant GOP

Submitted by margaret condello on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 20:30.

shouldn't have messed with us. At last count, Gary Johnson had 1,139,562 votes. How many wrote in Ron Paul's name? Other 3rd party votes? Stayed home in disgust?

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And McCainPalin faced a tougher opponent in 2008.

Submitted by Chuqfu on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 07:08.

unvetted Obama as opposed to vetted

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Those numbers still seem unlikely to me

Submitted by FallenTabris on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 01:26.

Having paid so much attention during the primaries, it was astounding how unpopular Romney was. In many states he performed way worse than he did in the 2008 primaries. It's almost as if, the more people see of this d-bag, the less they like him. The fact that Santorum and Gingrich held on for so long speaks volumes to Romney's unlikability.

On the other hand, even though I voted for Obama in 2008, I felt McCain had more integrity than any he shared the stage with (sans Paul of course).

With all that said, I find it incredibly unlikely that Romney only garnered less than a million votes than McCain. This under-represents Christians' discriminatory nature towards Mormonism, too (something the media generally don't address).

Polls always converge on "too

Submitted by MichaelMcC on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 23:00.

Polls always converge on "too close to call" in the last few weeks before the election. Notice how the actual vote looks more like the polls a month out than like the polls during the last few days.

IMHO this is the pollsters avoiding the risk of calling the election the wrong way and losing credibility. If it's "too close to call" it's not their fault if they get it wrong, eh?

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Or, keep the circus interesting

Submitted by TwelveOhOne on Fri, 11/09/2012 - 08:47.

They need to keep the circus interesting (they're also distributing more bread than ever) in order to keep the people's brains occupied. Can't have it decided before it's over -- except if it's the nomination, that is.

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Moreso that, yeah

Submitted by FallenTabris on Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:01.

Of course they want to cover their own asses with "too close to call", but also the media will always act in a way that is self-necessitating, so of course they'll tell people it's close to ensure they keep watching.

To me, it seemed, like the

Submitted by dasohio on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 11:45.

To me, it seemed, like the people who supported Romney knew as little about him as they possibly could... "We need a businessman in the White House" or "We've got to get Obama out!"

we will see

Submitted by The Shazad on Wed, 11/07/2012 - 23:04.

I believe McCain's numbers on the day after the election were lower than what you posted by a little bit. Both candidates ended up adding a couple million to their totals prior to certification, which is normal. We'll see what it adds up to this year.

In answer to your question from earlier: this sucks.

Actually

Submitted by joeinmo on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 10:56.

Missouri did not come in for a week later it was that close, then McCain won MO and that states numbers were added.

here's a website with up to date numbers

Submitted by The Shazad on Wed, 11/14/2012 - 23:09.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjYj9mXElO_QdHp...

Romney's closing on McCain's total and will pass him very soon. He's already added around 2 million, and only 4 states have certified their numbers.

the partial counts were being added, right?

Submitted by The Shazad on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 12:04.

FL hasn't been called yet, either. Aren't those included in the total, just like Missouri's partial counts from last time? No state has certified a number yet, and all state totals will be higher than what we see currently. There are probably 5-8 million votes around the country that will be added to the totals still.

I'm getting a lot of...

Submitted by kron on Tue, 11/13/2012 - 13:52.

...e-mails from Republican friends(and a uncle that was a huge Romney supporter) that have reports of election fraud against Romney. These add up to some of the same things going on in the primaries that people on this site have eyewitness or proof on. What is your thoughts on that? Although the Paul votes would have made a difference, it really does appear there was election fraud going on.

there's some level of fraud going on

Submitted by The Shazad on Wed, 11/14/2012 - 23:12.

but it's probably much more on the micro level than the macro level. Maybe fraud added to Obama's lead. But Obama didn't beat Romney because of fraud. He won because he convinced more people to vote for him. The primaries also were not won because of fraud - and the margins there were much higher than in the general election. There will always be anecdotal evidence of a ballot not being counted or of little things like that. You can probably always find some corrupt poll worker somewhere. But there's not a systematic, nationwide effort to completely fabricate elections.

Or Obama won

Submitted by Achieve Balance on Sun, 11/25/2012 - 11:09.

because Mitt Romney and the Establishment republicans alienated a motivated chunk of voters by pushing a losing agenda of neoconservatism that free market, conservative republicans can't stomach. In addition, neoconservatism is about as divisive of an idea as possible. Liberals have absolutely no reason to vote for a Republican like Romney.

Can we prosecute this pair for felony crimes in Wisconsin now?

Submitted by AnAppealToHeavenWash on Wed, 11/07/2012 - 20:50.

Subs for votes?

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Bump for Subgate!

Submitted by TwelveOhOne on Fri, 11/09/2012 - 08:45.

I have not forgotten either. I wonder what the statute of limitations is for this video documented crime?

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