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Rand's Romney endorsement makes sense now...Brilliant if you ask me.

So, we were all confused with Rand's endorsement of Romney & we all were pissed. Some of us got over it, but most of us have held a grudge & swore Rand is a traitor...but it dawned on me today. Rand's move was pure genius.

First, I see no scenario in which Rand would "endorse" Romney without the okay from Ron. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, and Rand has always stood beside his father politically. He's not going to leave his side to buddy up with Mitt Romney of all people.

Second, who are we to say this wasn't a plan that Ron & Rand came up with together? "CRAZY TALK" you say? well...not really. See, Rand's endorsement allowed him to do something he could not have done if he refused to endorse Romney. Rand was able to criticize Romney in the public due to his endorsement. Every issue that Rand didn't agree with Romney on he spoke out & made it known that he did not agree with him. Essentially, Rand's "endorsement" allowed him to beat up on Mitt in public, while still appearing to be "one of them" to the republicans. You can criticize if you want...but that's a brilliant move. Hell, it might have even helped Mitt lose votes.

Perhaps the Paul's said "oh, you want to threaten us...okay buddy, here ya go..." and expertly planted the seed of doubt in voters heads. Perhaps the good 'ol "keep your enemies closer" adage came into play here? Look at all the bickering in the GOP now that Mitt lost. It's beautiful! You have the crazies like Herman Cain advocating them leaving the party...that would be the GREATEST thing that could happen for the liberty movement. It would make our take over of the GOP A TON easier. The party is in disarray & damn near ripe for the picking.

So, ya'll can sit here & say he's a traitor...but I'm starting to think maybe this dude is our BEST asset. And, you KNOW Ron is right there by his side every step of the way playing that Obi-Wan role.

Rand has officially become Luke...time to restore the Republic.



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If I recall correctly...

...the "party insiders" were also opposed to Rand becoming Kentucky Senator.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Bingo

Almost as if:
Ron Paul = Vito Corleone
Rand Paul = Micheal Corleone

Reminds of the part in the godfather where Vito says he swears to the heads of the 5 families that he wil not take vengeance. And he didn't. Micheal did

The trouble with your theory

The trouble with your theory is that I can't explain why Ron made this endorsement just at a time when the delegates were desperately trying to influence state conventions and on the show of a man who had smeared his dad only months earlier. These actions are those of an opportunist. It was also lame way to do it since Rand needlessly pissed us off. I, for one, would not have blamed him for an endorsement as such. I blame him for the duplicitous way he did it.

Maybe the idol you worship

Maybe the idol you worship told his son something that he didn't tell the rest of us?

I don't think Rand Paul is

I don't think Rand Paul is brilliant. Sometimes his arguments are so weak and lacking facts...or are so hypocritical. He may be the best we've got but I am not happy about it.

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It took me

years to come around to the liberty mindset and to support the Ron Paul Revolution. YEARS, Do we wanna win or do we wanna stay at 10-20% of the GOP?

Politics need to be played. The GOP sheep will come around naturally as most, if not all of us did.

Rand Paul 2016.

Time to get the ball rollin'

It wasnt a strategy, RP didnt

It wasnt a strategy, RP didnt even know it was going to happen....he said so in an interview.

Rand did it out of politics and because he made a promise to back the nominee.

He messed up by endorsing him BEFORE the nomination was actually announced at the sham RNC.

Will alot of people from the movement follow him in 2016? Yes. Kinda like GJ. But he wont have the full support of the movement. I cant speak for anyone else, but I know I wont.

i was passing by this thread

i was passing by this thread & just so happened to BUMP it.

This is exactly why we will

This is exactly why we will see Ron Paul in history books before his death, mark my words. Break free from the chains of deception and embrace the culture in which it naturally evolves. LET FREEDOM RING RP is a legend in my books.

Freedom

Right, because Rand even went

Right, because Rand even went on CNN talking trash about Romney's foreign policy from WITHIN his endorsement, far more powerful than as an opponent of Romney. Think about it, most of us get it now.

Yep

...and a few weeks ago he launched attack ads on Democrats for their pro-war stances (foreign aid in particular)...stances which, incidentally, are identical to those of the Republicans, including Romney. He forced Lindsey Graham, among others, to come out in defense of Democrats weeks before an election! This resulted in Rand going the rounds on the political shows, presenting the same anti-war message repeatedly (and most eloquently) in prime-time. Now that's some clever politics if I do say so myself!

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

What about the possibility of

What about the possibility of endorsing Romney in order to get on their good side, and then, when the time is right, Daddy comes in with an endorsement. Genius, Pulling both the establishment and Ron Paul supporters along the way. That's conscious thinking and observing ladies and gentlemen.

Freedom

We Tried It Your Way...

The simply strategic reality is Rand Paul endorses Romney to be in place to pick up the pieces of the Republican Party after losing to Obama again. The liberty movement has its foot in the door, and the neocons lost another election. One thing Americans hate is losers. This is the perfect opportunity for the neocons to be shown the door by the liberty movement. Rand Paul is in position to say, "We tried it your way..."

Dude, excuse my judgement,

Dude, excuse my judgement, but you misread what I wrote. I was saying exactly what you were saying. "Come on man" NOW "daddy" can endorse Romney and solve the whole darn problem.

Freedom

When Rand runs...

...no doubt Ron will endorse him.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

"backed into a corner"

and if you remember...Rand's email to the Liberty movement at the time he endorsed Romney was titled "backed into a corner." He told us what was going on in a subtle way..

Good Observation about Rand

I kept telling people when Rand endorsed Romney to back off getting on his case as he surely knew what he was doing. It was tough having to see so many people bash and gang slam him. I have no doubt that what you say is one of the reasons for him endorsing Romney.

Rand is nobody's fool! He knew what he was doing, it was calculated or he would not have done it. Smart politics, and yes, it is a vipers den, but Rand has a very smart dad to help him avoid getting bit.

It is too bad that so many of his supporters bit him instead instead of seeing a bit more deeply into what he may have been doing.

The 3 RRR's...... Run Rand Run......Rand Paul in 2015!!

You guys are kidding

You guys are kidding yourselves The GOP is just using Rand to try and get the liberty vote to endorse their BS. Rand got suckered even if this was his plan.

But it backfired because Rands endorsement divided the liberty movement and most disowned him. He will never get the GOP Nomination mark my words.

You guys keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results. You keep wrestling with the same pig and expect not to get dirty this time while the pig enjoys it...

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Partially correct

"The GOP is just using Rand to try and get the liberty vote to endorse their BS."

Yep, but you missed the other half: "...and Rand was using the GOP to get mainstream Republican votes when he runs for POTUS in 2016."

Considering Romney got trounced, I'd say the GOP hasn't benefited from the deal. Whereas, Rand has already benefited in terms of his image in the minds of mainstream Republicans.

"But it backfired because Rands endorsement divided the liberty movement and most disowned him."

If that's the case, who's fault is that? Rand's or the people who didn't understand the logic of his endorsement? And, anyway, I think most do understand, or will come to understand in the coming months and years. I predict the Liberty Movement will be solidly in the Rand-camp come 2016.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

"and Rand was using the GOP

"and Rand was using the GOP to get mainstream Republican votes when he runs for POTUS in 2016."

You really think the mainstreamers like or will ever like Rand? No, they like Rubio/Jeb Bush, who both have much higher approval than Rand.

Rand needs the liberty movement combined with some Tea Partiers, paleocons and independents to win. He cannot rely on the Repub base.

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My parents LOVE Rand Paul.

My Fox-News-Addicted, mid-70's, lifelong-GOP-voting parents who were afraid of Ron Paul absolutely love Rand because he comes across as a reasonable and trustworthy "GOP team player."

Rand is a brilliant a political strategist. Ron Paul is a visionary and statesman. We need both kinds to succeed in the realm of POLITICS.

RAND'S ENDORSEMENT WASN'T FOR US! He (wrongly) assumed that we in the Liberty Movement were smart enough to see that he was speaking to people like my elderly parents when he made the endorsement.

I'm sorry to say that there are too many in the Liberty movement who are willing to cut off their own noses to spite their face. It's insane that anyone, ANYONE in the Liberty movement would seriously consider trashing THE MOST PRO-LIBERTY SENATOR because of one MEANINGLESS endorsement of a lame-ass candidate who was SURE TO LOSE.

"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." - Ronald Reagan

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I'm not trashing him, I'm

I'm not trashing him, I'm trashing his strategy. I support Rand Paul.

But the polls don't lie:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/rubio-clinto...

25% saw Rand Paul unfavorably, more than any other candidate mentioned.
52% saw Rand Paul favorably, less than any other candidate mentioned.

There are plenty of people who think Rand is "just as bad" as his father, which is somewhat true, since he is almost as good as Ron Paul. Graham and Rubio dissing him doesn't help either.

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Yep

I see it all the time in online comments. People will mock and attack Ron Paul and in the same breath express their love for Rand. Rand already has more mainstream support than Ron ever had. Ron built the base, Rand is taking it mainstream.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

And the GOP establishment,

And the GOP establishment, media, etc. will snub him just like they did his father twice. Some people never learn it seems... Sigh!

And you think mainstream Republicans are not aware of what hes doing? LOL!

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Your defeatism is a self-fulfilling prophecy

...bottom line is this: Rand is now in a better position vis a vis mainstream Republican voter than he would have been absent the endorsement. No one's saying he's got it made in the shade, it's still going to be a tough fight.

And you think mainstream Republicans are not aware of what hes doing? LOL!

The politicians? Of course they are. The voters? Not really. Considering that many Paulites don't know, and that the average Paulite is much better informed than the average Republican, I say most of 'em don't know nothin, nor will they ever.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Defeatism? LOL!!! The

Defeatism? LOL!!! The defeatist are the lazy asses who think they must reform the mafia (GOP for the Mentally challenged) and won't get off the couch and build something real without the baggage and stigma of the GOP... Oh but that is too hard we must reform the GOP and we'll do it by going along with some of their anti liberty candidates (like Romney) and positions... Hows that worked out for the last several election cycles?

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ron and rand are smarter then sheeple give them credit for and they both count on this and use it as strategy.

rand and ron had this entire thing planned for at least a year.
they knew the attacks were coming and the minute one finger was laid on a supporter they both split and ended it so to s[peak/.

anyone who thinks the drs paul run by the seat of their pants and with every move- well thought out, has seriously underestimated them both, AGAIN!!!.
good thing they count on this.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Kiss of Death

Rand Paul's endorsement of Romney will be looked back upon as the kiss of death for the Establishment Republicans.

The kiss of death

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcFlp6kl508

Romney a couple years from now, begging Rand for an appointment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYabrQrXt4A

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."