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Rand's Romney endorsement makes sense now...Brilliant if you ask me.

So, we were all confused with Rand's endorsement of Romney & we all were pissed. Some of us got over it, but most of us have held a grudge & swore Rand is a traitor...but it dawned on me today. Rand's move was pure genius.

First, I see no scenario in which Rand would "endorse" Romney without the okay from Ron. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, and Rand has always stood beside his father politically. He's not going to leave his side to buddy up with Mitt Romney of all people.

Second, who are we to say this wasn't a plan that Ron & Rand came up with together? "CRAZY TALK" you say? well...not really. See, Rand's endorsement allowed him to do something he could not have done if he refused to endorse Romney. Rand was able to criticize Romney in the public due to his endorsement. Every issue that Rand didn't agree with Romney on he spoke out & made it known that he did not agree with him. Essentially, Rand's "endorsement" allowed him to beat up on Mitt in public, while still appearing to be "one of them" to the republicans. You can criticize if you want...but that's a brilliant move. Hell, it might have even helped Mitt lose votes.

Perhaps the Paul's said "oh, you want to threaten us...okay buddy, here ya go..." and expertly planted the seed of doubt in voters heads. Perhaps the good 'ol "keep your enemies closer" adage came into play here? Look at all the bickering in the GOP now that Mitt lost. It's beautiful! You have the crazies like Herman Cain advocating them leaving the party...that would be the GREATEST thing that could happen for the liberty movement. It would make our take over of the GOP A TON easier. The party is in disarray & damn near ripe for the picking.

So, ya'll can sit here & say he's a traitor...but I'm starting to think maybe this dude is our BEST asset. And, you KNOW Ron is right there by his side every step of the way playing that Obi-Wan role.

Rand has officially become Luke...time to restore the Republic.




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It was also a brilliant PR

It was also a brilliant PR move. Remember, Romney invited Rand out to campaign for him, this gave Rand the chance to meet the blockhead Republicans that did actually vote for Romney.

For all you doubters, if we want Rand and liberty to actually win, we need to EXPOSE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!

Rand has a plan, and that means he needs a brand. He cannot win without proper sales and marketing. Rand helped himself by using Romney as a foot stool... now let's hope the media helps Rand over the next 3 years....

Rand may not be his father,

Rand may not be his father, but damn it, he's pretty damn close. Truly a case of voting a lesser of good!! Rand Paul 2016!

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rand is smarter then his father, in some things. They play ball together. you will soon see. rand has no fear of engagement and cares not whos feelings he hurts.
he will also climb into the pond, his father never would.
not a fault by any means but one of the only differences.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

nice post

This should be obvious to an intellectual movement. It was a pragmatic approach likely inspired by Ron's experience. To call Rand a traitor is just ridiculous.

What happened to the source who claimed Ron Paul was furious at Jesse Benton and that he was fired from C4L and stole donor lists?

Ron's grandson-in-law goes to work for his son's mentor in the Senate -- oh the controversy. I support both Rand and Jesse. They have brought the liberty movement to the establishment.

Well said

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"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

I just don't like the whole "secret strategy" thing.

The main reason I ever supported Ron was because he was honest staightforward and genuine. He stood up for his beliefs even though they weren't at all popular in the neocon party. Rand could get my support but he would have to be more libertarian on issues like gay marriage and drug prohibition.

It's also not a secret...

...I'm sure Romney knew perfectly well that Rand's endorsement was insincere. Romney wanted it for his political reasons (win Paulite votes), Rand for his (win mainstream GOP votes in future).

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

It's politics.

It's politics. It's an irrational process based on whims, emotions, ignorance, stupidity and so on. We can all be outside throwing rocks at windows, yelling about corruption. Or we can use their own tricks against them, be subversive, get a seat at the table and change things from within. It's the only way to fight a corrupt system amidst an apathetic public.

Completely agree; great explanation

I've attempted to make some of the same points in several threads, but you are more eloquent than I -- or maybe more patient.

Of course we are guessing when we say that Rand had coaching, or at least an implicit okay, from his father before he made the endorsement. But our guessing makes a lot more sense than the GUESSING of those who assert (as if they are God) that Rand betrayed his own father (and us). And it is certainly a lot more Christian.

And the way things shaped up Rand's endorsement of Romney seems almost brilliant. A perfect setup for 2016. But, of course, I'm sure that's all ...just coincidence.

"There are no coincidences in politics." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt

Bill of Rights /Amendment X: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Do you need a politician or judge to "interpret" those 28

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Thanks! I didn't doubt him because I watched him at the Tea

Party in Boston in 2007 on - I support him.

Debbie

YES! I've been waiting for this

RAND PAUL 2016!

HATERS GONNA HATE!

WINNERS GONNA WIN!

"No physical quantity explains it's own existence, and no amount of time can consume an infinite series of events to bring you to the present, which means all of these somewhere have to be explained by one self-existent cause which is not physical."

The GOP now owes Rand...

...and I hope he cashes that favor in.

Cuimhnigh orm, a Dhia, le haghaidh maith.

Rand Paul 2016

Rand Paul 2016

Wait...

Didn't Carol Paul say neither she or Ron knew he was going to do it and that afterwards Ron sat in silence for 20 minutes?

Doesn't sound like a mutually agreed strategy to me.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

She was asked about this,

and she talked about it. I watched it, but I don't feel confident enough in my memory to step out on a limb and repeat what she said.

Source?

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"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Not sure where

I know it was an audio interview that was posted here. But, I honestly don't remember. That is why I was somewhat asking the question - hoping I didn't imagine it.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

She didn't say that RP

sat in silence over it. That came from somewhere else.

Sounds like they were praying

for his safety and for the people (us) to have the wisdom to understand.

If Carol didn't know I would speculate Ron didn't tell her ahead of time for his own reasons.

Just speculation, of course. Do you have a source for this factoid? Not that I need some good gossip, but because it might be significant, maybe not.

I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

In the 2016 Election Debates

None of the Republican opponents will be able to say, "You didn't even endorse our nominee, you helped give Obama a 2nd term." That would be a huge blow to Rand. I always felt the endorsement was for that reason, so they can't say that.

If talks continue that the Ron Paul supporters ruined it for Mitt, Rand can be perceived as the guy that brings all factions of the Republican party together and the best person to defeat the Democrat nominee in 2016.

Just my opinion.

Well said, I agree

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"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Yes I have

noticed the big difference between Ron and Rand is that Ron is not a politician he is a statesman. Rand is a very very slick politician. I am glad he is for the most part on our team.

I Think The Biggest Question Is...

Did Rand's endorsement and subsequent campaigning get Romney any actual votes?

Seems to me most of these supposed 'campaign stops' should instead be called 'fundraising stops'. I mean, who really attends these little get-togethers, anyway? Undecided people? Seems like it's more die-hard fanatics who love to get up a good whoo-hoo-rah-rah every once in a while, throwing their dollars to the empty hat in the middle.

Sort of like Ron Paul rallies :).

So Rand might have coaxed a few more Benjamins into Romney's (very large and vacuous) hat but I don't think he got many votes.

As for the endorsement, well, to judge by the 700+ 'down-votes' the announcement got here on Daily Paul, this may have actually helped to set some real, politically active people 'on the web' against Romney once and for all. The final dirty trick, some thought. Icing on a poop cake.

And during this time Rand was still able to stir things up in the Senate with his controversial, and often misunderstood, vote on Federally mandated GMO labeling, pro-hemp legislation for Kentucky, stonewalling aid to Pakistan, and much more.

Then he got to go on the campaign trail and be our eye on the inside, just by reciting a few meaningless, symbolic, laughable words 'I'm endorsing Mitt Romney for President'.

Every time a stop was scheduled in a state his name would be on the local news, and they would often mention that he was the son of Ron Paul.

I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

Rand has learned from his father's mistakes

I believe Ron told his son, don't do what I did. Don't try to change the party from the outside, It won't work. Rand endorsed Romney so he could stay on the inside. If he had snubbed the nominee, he would be ousted from the party and would never get back in. Ron Paul said it back in January, we are going to change the party by making the outsiders the insiders. Rand is an insider now.

Our job is to take the party from the inside. From the bottom up. We need to become delegates for our precincts and get into the party. Vote out the leadership and install our own. The party can't pick who's running (contrary to what we saw this last cycle) but they can influence who that nominee likely will be.

For my county, we have created the Republican Liberty Caucus. All of the liberty supporting delegates are members and we are going to take our county party.

In two years, we need to have a firm grasp on the grassroots of the party and have Constitutional people ready to run for office.

Ron's only mistake

was Jesse Benton instead of Tom Woods.

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

If Rand wants to get married

If Rand wants to get married to the GOP it comes down to 3 things...foreign policy, foreign policy, and foreign policy.

We already know that Rand Paul has a different stance on foreign policy than his father.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

So you're saying that Ron

So you're saying that Ron would have voted differently on the following than Rand?

Rand Paul tries to end the Iraq war
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_...

Rand Paul only no agaisnt preemptive war with Iran
http://news.yahoo.com/senate-approves-resolution-iran-044224...

Rand Paul stops Iran sanction bill that would lead to troops without congressional approval
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/senator-rand-pau...

everyone always deserves a

everyone always deserves a second chance; except obama..lol its just political way to get his name out to the masses thats all rand that is..

I believe you are right, brilliant

It can be like a property rights or family thing. If you respect the family by saying a good word here endorsing Mitt then you can criticize Mitt. Ron Paul on the other hand could not and should not have endorsed Romney. Ron Paul is supreme. Ron Paul is a humble, man yes! However Mitt Romney is not worthy of Ron's endorsement or time. He is our nestor and leader and hopefully our President in 2016.

shisaracyndi

Could be, could be. I hope

Could be, could be. I hope you are right about rand. I guess time will tell whether he is luke or annikan.