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The Biggest Obstacle Between Rand Paul And The White House Is...

...Marco Rubio.

1. Because he is viewed as a fiscal conservative(tea partier).

2. Because Republicans need to tap into the Latino vote.

3. Because he is viewed as very presidential.

We must defeat and expose him in 2014 for us to have a chance in 2016. Let me know what you think, thanks.

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The Biggest Obstacle Between Rand Paul And The White House Is...

The Biggest Obstacle Between Rand Paul And The White House Is...


Wisdom Strategies

Rubio needs to be vetted.

Rubio needs to be vetted.

Thomas Jefferson 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Rand Paul 2016, 2020.

The biggest obstacle between

Rand and the Whitehouse? The trust of Liberty-minded people like me.
I was, at first, a big Rand fan...then, he made comment after comment that just rubbed me the wrong way. He made me question his ethics. I now have the opinion that he is not the Statesman his father is, but rather a politician...like Rubio, like Guiliani, like Romney, like McCain. They will flip-flop as needed, they will change positions and say anything necessary to placate.
So, what is his biggest obstacle? A: Trust.

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry


Justin Amash will get on TV soon.

Rubio is not presidential

Rubio is not presidential material in my opinion. Have you heard him speak. Btw, dream ticket is as follows: Rand wins the primaries and picks Judge Nap as his Veep!! Ballgame!!!

"Where liberty is, there is my country." -Benjamin Franklin


I could definately go for a Rand Paul/Justin Amash ticket.

Rand is well known and in the circle. Justin would rake in the youth vote and is Constitutionally sound.

That would pretty much take care of anybody they try to prop.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Better Option

This is better option than Marco Rubio Presidential ticket. Would the neo cons except this stellar liberty movement Republican ticket? That is why I believe that Rubio is a real idea to achieve majority primary voter status. Ron Paul is going to endorse Rand Paul if he runs and so should the rest of the liberty movement.


Ron Paul would in fact endorse Rand, and though we "think for ourselves", we would follow Ron in that endorsement.

Establishment... I think we should take the ball. We are the movement. It is no longer top down dictate. We should have learned that much by now.

Liberty movement, ie: r3VOLution, would get behind Amash like there is no tomorrow.

In my opinion, I believe it is the best option.

Btw: I will NEVER support rubio. EVER.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Been on a Palin site

and they are saying no way to Rubio, if anything other than Palin the Palinistas have Rand as their second choice, just saying because Palin supporters are the only other group I know that refused to vote Romney in any great numbers.

That's interesting... I hope

That's interesting...

I hope Palin will help Joe Miller get his long deserved victory for Senate. I'd love to get Rand and Lee some company in the Senate.

Completely agree

lets get on these pro palin sites and build out first in party coalition

Rubio is not eligible for the

Rubio is not eligible for the office of the President. He is not an obstacle.

Please educate yourself on this issue and read the article below.


Rand Paul and Marco Rubio

If I was Rand Paul I would become close associates with Marco Rubio. Yes, we will need Marco Rubio not to run and join Rand Paul on our team as Vice President. If Jeb Bush or Chris Christie or neo con x will Marco Rubio run then support neo con x? We need Marco Rubio as an ally.

This is why we have GOOOOT to get involved

with our local Republican Party NOW! Don't wait till 2014 and hope you can take over in two years. 2014 will be too late. We've already gained some influence in Iowa, Nevada, Maine, and quite a few other states. If we start getting involved now we'll have the infrastructure to get our candidate elected in '16.

The MIC owns the GOP

The MIC owns the GOP leadership. The MIC won't allow Rand to be the GOP nominee in 2016, because Rand isn't a neocon. Rubio, Cristie, Jeb have nothing to do with it (other than that they are all acceptable neocons.)

Lots can change between now and 2016, but if the world is anything like it is today, the 2016 GOP nominee will be someone who SOUNDS like Rand, but by no means will it BE Rand. The MIC would never allow it - Rand would be too dangerous to their pocketbooks.

Rand COULD be an acceptable VP candidate, but only if the MIC is desperate, and if anything happened to the President while Rand was VP, Rand too would be toast.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein


Come again, who is MIC?


Watch this dry yet astonishing Dr. Robert Beck cancer treatment lecture on Google Video - search "Suppressed Medical Discovery" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk

MIC Military Industrial Complex.

Major General Smedley Butler and General Dwight Eisenhower as President both warned us of the dangers of the military industrial complex.

Free includes debt-free!

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biggest obstacle is as Doug Wead (former insider) describes is the "10 fat men sitting at a table."

The "10 fat men" could be

The Federal Reserve
Goldman Sachs
Wall Street
Lockheed Martin
Big pharma
Big Oil
Private prison system
A dumbed down, medicated, decadent, ignorant, apathetic public that is going to go for whatever the MSM and the two party duopoly shove in their faces.

(ok, more than 10 but you get the picture)

I said this exact same thing

I said this exact same thing in a thread yesterday. Add in the fact that he's from Florida, which is huge


He is a big time NeoCon they will push him

Integrity is the biggest obstacle.....

Rand Paul is hated by almost everyone, except the 500 or so idiots here at the DP who are infatuated with him and the Paul family.

4 month troll

enough said

Him and Christie

I actually thought rubio would be a friend to liberty at first, then I saw him on a trip with megalomaniac war loving John McCain in Lybia.

Christie is the front runner already, his praise of Obama was not a mistake, Christie never wanted Romney to win.

I don't think Christie

I don't think Christie appeals to the conservative base enough. They're mad over his thing with Obama and he's even more moderate than Romney. And unlike Romney, his "conservative" alternatives (Rubio, Ryan, etc) are seen as more electable than Santorum and Gingrich (as well as RP, at least in the media's eyes, which is all that matters), and in Rubio's case, probably more electable than Christie himself, so he can't play that card, which is pretty much how Romney got the nomination

I don't know

if factual credentials matter to social conservatives anymore, they like christie, hell, I like christie as a governor (he is my Gov.), Whatever it is, I already wrote Sen. Paul and said I am in.


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Ron Paul 2012...and beyond

Marco will never get my vote again --

I've already posted my views on here - how he and/or his office treats my correspondence; missing important vote because his plane was delayed (assume he was out stumping for Romney at the time but can't be sure on that), etc., etc.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix


He did it to his own DAMN self!

Rand Paul is a losing ticket.

Those who support rand are the ones that said Ron Paul had no chance.

Rand Paul chose to support Romney over his own father.

Get a fucking clue people.. If Ron Paul does not run again there is no way his son would be able to rally enough support. He is loved by neocons and hated by many independents and democrats. He cannot be trusted. He will choose party line over principal.

The only liberty canadate that will get support from the liberty movement is someone that voted and supported liberty in 2012. Rand Paul has many years to make up for his betrayal. He will never bring the liberty movement together so why waste time supporting him for president in 2016?? he is a losing ticket.

The only people I see at the moment running and winning in 2016 are.

Ron Paul
Jesse Ventura
Tom Davis
Judge Andrew Napolitano

Anyone who says these guys can't win are those same people that thought Romney could.

Just having these guys nominated would force real change in America winning no matter what.

Ron Paul - Republican

Jesse Ventura - independent

Tom Davis - Republican

Andrew Napolitano - Constitution

Another way to win is to flood the two party system with liberty minded people so do your job and vote.

The only republicans that won had the support of Ron Paul in 2012!

You're seriously overestimating the number

of people in this country that support liberty. Jesse Ventura is not exactly laissez-faire himself. If Rand had not endorsed Romney, Republicsn voters would not support him in the 2016 primaries.