Michigan Results

at watching for cheating than our own government's voting system. I'm in NY and thank God we don't have machine voting.

I would be really pissed.

Why in the world are ANY of you using anything but an absentee ballot? Why wait until the last minute, and subject your vote to a faulty machine?

Diebold Machine Rejects Ron Paul Votes In Michigan

Ron Paul War Room
Wednesday January 16, 2008

From Ron Paul Supporter Michigan below

Voter #1 Genoa Township, Michigan Precinct 3. Voting problems?
Posted January 15th, 2008 by LettenYouKnow
First observation…
-Diebold

I was the first voter, I circled in Ron Paul and put my ballot into the machine. Spit it right back out and said INVALID BALLOT.

Second guy gives it a shot. INVALID BALLOT.

I begin arguing with the lady running the precinct about computer voting and people voting. This lady actually says in a room full of people that Computers are better at counting ballots than people, cause people make mistakes. who makes computers?

So to finish it up, she calls the township. she says I can keep my ballot in a secret compartment and they will put it through later once its fixed.

So they call her back. She gets off the phone. She says the manufacturer says there is a problem with a memory card. Someone from the manufacturer will be there with a new memory card soon.

It doesn’t help that I just watched a darn documentary about DIEBOLD and MEMORY CARDS.

I immediately left and drive to the township office to voice my complaints. They must still be sleeping.

Attention Ron Paul supporters,

Stop whining. It gets you nowhere.

We are not really doing that badly in this campaign. We’re doing much better than Ron Paul ever suspected to do. We have a lot of things working against us, so the 6-10% we’re getting is very respectable. Let’s look at the cards stacked against this campaign:

· The New Republican Party – The neo-cons stick together. Look at how the republican party in general has stuck behind Bush even when he’s a war-mongering, spend-happy liberty-destroyer. If you listen to talk radio, you know what I’m talking about. A few bold republicans have vilified Bush for his non-conservative actions while in office, but most have not.

· Apathy and ignorance – Let’s face it. Most people have no idea that the Federal Reserve isn’t a department of our Federal government. They have no idea that our leaders have turned our country, it’s wealth, and our past and future efforts as U.S. citizins to international banking interests. We have to educate them, and that’s not going to happen overnight. It’s been like this for over 100 years, and no one has done anything about it until now. At least average Americans are talking about monetary policy now… thanks to Ron Paul. The ideological platform that Ron Paul espouses fixes many basic problems we have with this country, but I’m afraid that the sheeple won’t do anything to fix it… at least not until things get much worse. No matter who we have in office this next term… demo or repub… things will get worse, you can count on it. (Unless Paul manages to pull it out somehow, of course.) Americans are still fat, dumb and happy for now. But as the dollar continues to tank, and gas prices continue to rise, and Americans continue to die overseas… that will change. As apathy turns to anger, Ron Paul’s support will rise.

· The “horse race” mentality of the American public – I was talking with a good friend of mine the other day, and when I said that the only man worth voting for was Ron Paul, he said, “Yeah, but he doesn’t have a chance to win. I wasted my vote on Harry Brown, and I’m not doing that again.” My response was, “Did you vote for the guy you thought would do the best job leading our nation at the time?” and he said yes, he thought so. So I told him, “Then your vote didn’t get wasted.” So many Americans feel they have to vote for “the lesser of 2 evils”, or to vote for someone who “has a chance to win”. It’s not a horse race. That is no way to decide who you support. But people choose to have this mentality. I used to be the same way, always voting for the republican nominee even if I didn’t like them that much… just so the democrats wouldn’t get in office. Well, now the two parties are both the same… big government, globalist, war-mongerers. So, the only way to vote is for Paul, whether he has a chance or not. No one else will change things. People have to get out of this “vote for the winner” mentality. Once again, I don’t think this will change until things get much worse in this country.

· The “Hollywood” mentality of stupid Americans – Some people look at the election as a beauty contest or a popularity poll. They vote for the one who is “so articulate” or for the one who is a “great orator” or for the one who used to be an actor. This is so stupid I don’t even want to discuss it.

· MSM and the lack of time/boots on the ground – Let’s face it, the Ron Paul movement gained serious momentum a little too late to make a huge difference in the early primaries. He’s done exceptionally well considering he is virtually ignored by the msm. (Well, they don’t ignore him entirely… sometimes they bring him up just so they can cut him down.) But to reach the people, we as Ron Paul supporters have to do it one-by-one. We can’t count on the msm like the neo-cons can. As long as Rupert Murdock owns television, we’re going to have to realize that the msm are always going to talk about Ron Paul as a “kook” or a “fringe” candidate. That’s fine. We just have to spread the word person-to-person. As things get worse in this country, this will be easier to do. As he gains supporters, he also gains more boots on the ground to spread the message even further. As his support grows, it will almost grow exponentially… as one person tells 2… who tell 2 or 3 more… and so on. This takes time and dedicated supporters. It will not happen overnight. As his support base grows, however, the rate of bringing on new supporters will increase. 3x3x3x3x3 over and over, only 16 times = 43,000,000 votes. But… if you look at it half-way through though this process, 3x3x3x3 over and over, only 8 times… it’s only 6,561 votes. That’s the power of geometric progression and exponential growth. If you look at it that way, only having 10% of the vote means we’re probably well more than half way to achieving our goal.

I haven’t tried to be discouraging in this post. We should be encouraged. 50,000 people in Michigan voted for the man who “has no chance”. The message is getting out. Even if we don’t win the nomination, a revolution has begun… and it’s growing by leaps and bounds. Just keep talking to people. Join the meetups and keep the energy going. We’ll get there. We just have to be patient. (The globalist war-mongers have been patient. They’ve been working on their agenda since the Woodrow Wilson administration. About 100 years. I think the message is worth the patient effort… don’t you?)

My 2 cents.

I see this as simple as it is a failure of the American Public ! We are in the dire situation we are in because the masses let it happen and now that it needs fixing it is clear that the general public can't see beyond their TV. It like people complaining about the paparazzi yet why do they have jobs ? People buy the rags period. Same thing with MSM it thrives because people support it. I have been working to convince people on a daily basis to vote for Ron Paul. Some are but those who won't cannot tell me why or why they support their candidate. It just blows my mind how someone can have convicted opinion on something then they can't give you one fact to support it

Oh geez. Anyone who thought RP had a shot in hell of winning the republican nomination this year was crazy. The reason I have invested so much time and effort is the fact that Ron is right about what he is predicting i.e. recession, war, draft ect. Once these conditions exist, his candidacy as an independent will be viable. His name recognition will be where it needs to be from his run for the nomination. Don't you think he is saving the money we are sending him for a reason? Republicans can't win this year anyway. Accepting their nomination would be like tying yourself to a sinking ship. Paul has a national platform, plenty of money, and many impassioned supporters for his run in November. Imagine if he had to try to get this kind of support as an independent. It never could have happened. I am not surprised by the Michigan results. If Paul had won, I'd be worried that what I am fighting against wasn't even real. The more I see the media talk about Bloomberg and ignore Paul, the more I realize this nation's political process is about to see some unprecedented changes.
I went to the bar last night and converted at least 2 Obama people to Paul. Signs and internet posts are great for morale and communication but RP deserves and requires explaining. We have to go out and passionately talk to people about Paul. They will listen to you. They will not listen to a sign. It's a good day, if you see it that way.