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Note to GOP: Ron Paul would have won

For the next many months, we're going to hear pundit after pundit, politician after politician, and spokeshole after spokeshole wax poetic about the 2012 campaign and why the GOP lost. They will all go on and on and on, regurgitating talking points and theories. None of it matters.

Deep down, all they need to know is this:

Ron Paul would have won. In a landslide.



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Yes your right, but

have you seen the interviews with some of those Obama supporters? They voted Obama for the Obamacare! I figured most were afraid to say it, but I think these D's want big Government to take care of them.

After 2013 I hope people never buy health care until they need to go to the hospital. If you deprive the system of cash and pile on the costs you can bankrupt the system. In 2013 they can not refuse you for any preexisting conditions.

The Great American Empire will implode from within just like the Roman Empire, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth by those D's!

Surviving the killing fields of Minnesota

Todays brainwashing: GMO's are safe

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I think a lot of them did

I think a lot of them did vote for Obamacare, but I feel confident in saying that most of them voted AGAINST the republicans because of Romney, and would have seriously considered Ron Paul.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

Hold up folks...

The only way we are going to win ANYTHING is to get rid of
these stupid voting machines.

Paper Ballots Only.

That needs to be a main focus from here til 2016.

Later Taters!

I agree, without an honest vote we have nothing

from congressional races on up.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Ron Paul should..

RP should make up his own party and run in 2016. Find some big money backers that also believe in the same principles. If he did that this time, i have a feeling he would have gotten pretty darn close to 5%. That 5% is important, i bet if the Gary Johnson got 5% this time around, Ron Paul might have considered running as a Libertarian as his farewell party, if he still had energy. I know he would love to retake the GOP but that is going to take much longer. At least we helped to get a liberty candidate have their day sooner, 4 years instead of 8!!

Ron Paul wins again! Hearts & minds swell beyond the crowds!

Ron Paul wins world-wide attention to his ideas on limited governance & sound money. His ideas support respect for the individual & national sovereignty. His ideas on foreign policy include: bring our troops, money & border control home.

On the election this week, who knows? Diebold ® was the referee. They called it a technical knockout. They are still tallying the score. Instant replays will be viewed at a later date, time permitting.

Unlike other elections... in other countries... in lands far, far away.... United States candidates on all political sides are still available for after-the-fight interviews.

*** Ron Paul wins big! Again & again. ***

DieBold did not respond to repeated requests for a fair election.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

As planned

The GOP propped up their man, as planned, to purposely loose this election. The deal was already made with the globalists on who would win the election, and who would play the parts. The GOP already knew that propping up Ron Paul would easily beat Obama. It's a rigged game.

When will people stop spewing that BS?

Neither big party is actively trying to throw the election. What on Earth would they gain from that? They have cronies to support and power to grab, none of the crooks would ever spend their money on purposely throwing that away.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Unfortunately

the cronies for both parties are one and the same. Obama was guaranteed two terms, it is glaringly obvious that both McCain and Romney were totally unelectable. The two party system has been subverted and I believe the Democrats have infiltrated the top levels of the GOP. Priebus and his cohorts must be removed but I have no clue as to how this can be accomplished. The real mystery is how the media can foist upon the populace the idea that this election was as close as it was reported to be.

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

Since the leftist

"Neocons" run the GOP (notice how all the GOP "debates" are "moderated" by leftists?) and have asserted the right to change the rules and dump fairly elected delegates they don't like and substitute their own there is no reason to continue to hope to change anything fom within the system.

Romney swung right on FP so Obama could look like the center

Those NeoCons they don't give two licks about conservative domestic policy or spending. They say whatever they need to say to maintain their FP, and are more inclined to agree with the center left on most domestic issues. The entire reason to setup Romney as a super warmonger was that win Obama won he could maintain his "centrist" position.

That way in 2016 they can throw a few beans at "libertarians" on domestic policy while not changing foreign policy (the Rand Paul strategy. Get tough on NDAA and some civil rights but implement no real change in FP). Then in 2016 when the "liberal" position of Obama is debunked by a econ collapse and a ME escalating in violence (due to his "liberal" FP im sure) they can elect another super warmonger, cut the JR partner in the American empire (welfare recipients, unions), and finally hand the reigns over to Europe (as planned).

Of course Ron Paul would have won, and that's precisely the

problem. Republicans would rather have Obama in the White House because at least with Obama in charge, they don't have to control their spending; stop their wars, and actually budget.

A Ron Paul presidency means bringing all the troops home; a gold standard (which is an absolute - MEGA - No - No), cutting about 12 arms off the government Octopus; ending the Federal Reserve; ending the IRS; giving people the ability to actually own their property, etc.

Republicans HATE Ron Paul, because they are all crooks who'd rather loot the public coffers and steal all they can before the economy crashes.

Ron Paul is no good; he's a virus killer that would clean up Washington and bring a heart beat back to America.

These people are diametrically opposed to anything that is good - right, and just; therefor they are diametrically opposed to Ron Paul.

One Man in a pit of money grabbing - power hungry vipers - never had a chance.

I bet Ron Paul has a snake bite kit on him at all times.

Edit: Don't forget the treacherous - lying "no spin" news channel FOX for their undying support of sabotaging Ron Paul at every turn. I don't know how those crooks sleep at night. FOX news is about 98.999% of the blame; they scorned him every chance they could; they lied; they cheated; they obstructed; took out of context his words, and were MAJOR players in the destruction of the Ron Paul presidency.

FOX news is another gang of criminals that should be brought up on treason charges.

Absolutely correct. This is the very heart of our beliefs.

We believe Dr. Paul COULD have beaten Obama because of all the disgruntled republicans, independents AND democrats who either didn't vote, or chose alternate candidates.

AND...

Even if Dr. Paul lost, can you imagine Obama having to answer his questions in the debates?

Think of all the lies he would have exposed (on international TV) about the FED, the wars, the occupations, TRUE free-market economics, foreign aid etc.

That would have woken up the country to the truth on so many issues.

It's an utter shame the GOP lost that great opportunity.

But they won't learn a thing.

They'll just blame us all the way until they lose again in 2016.

UNLESS...

---RON PAUL 2016!!!---

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Amazing. Ron Paul could fill a 10,000 seat auditorium with

fans screaming with delight to see him, willing to give him their money or support.

Romney couldn't fill a phone booth, even if he paid the people to listen to him.

The Republican party effectively split itself from ALL of Ron Pauls popular ideas with a "Don't Call US, we'll call you." approach, figuring it could shove ANY candidate down America's throat and he would win on the anti-Obama vote alone.

Republicans falsely assumed that when we were fed up with Obama and the Democrats we would simply go running to them. They seem to have forgotten we were sick of NeoCons too. Especially NeoCons with EXACTLY Obama's war like foreign policy.

My response to those articles.

There are all sorts of stories today about "The GOP EVALUATING THEIR LOSSES" or some headline similar. Here is the response I've been dropping on those pages:
Like this one:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/politics/gop-asks-why-a...

And this one:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/gop-asks-wrong/story?id=...


The GOP should have thought of that before they ostracized the most energetic and loyal group from their little club. Ron Paul supporters could have possibly helped the GOP overcome this embarrassing loss and could have helped the GOP win back the White House. But the GOP told Ron Paul supporters they weren't welcome. John Boehner cheated at the GOP convention (youtube it) and prevented Ron Paul supporters from LEGALLY nominating Ron Paul from the floor. GOP leaders across the country cheated at their State conventions to prevent Ron Paul delegates from taking a majority. And GOP members everywhere used vitriol and sheer hate against their fellow members to try and destroy the Ron Paul philosophy and his supporters. Do we really need to go back and search for all the times Conservatives used bigotry to describe Ron Paul and his supporters? How about: fringe, kooky, isolationist, crazy, lunatic. All your favorite GOP pundits had sheer animosity towards Ron Paul. Hannity, O'Riley, Beck, Limbaugh, CNN, FOX, MSNBC all excluded Ron Paul and continually made jabs at the people which supported him.

GOP members are so, extremely apathetic, that they don't even know about politics. They only support candidates simply because they have an (R) in front of their name. Every GOP member I talked to had no idea about the NDAA and had no idea that Romney supported it. They had no idea about Romney's positions regarding Tarp, Bailouts, War, the wiretapping of Americans, Drones -- and were completely delusional to the fact that those positions were exactly the same as Obama. These people failed to realize that it didn't matter who won the election, both candidates supported the exact same interests and there was little actual difference between the two on matters that should matter most to our Country.

The GOP got exactly what they deserved. They deserved to lose, because they put up a Democrat as a candidate. They deserve to lose due to the sheer hate that exists within the party. They deserved to lose due to the corruption that exists from all levels of the party. They deserve to lose because the policies they support amount to socialism. They deserve to lose, because they would have followed the same outline for our Country that has been followed by several of the last Presidents. They deserve to lose, because they put up Romney. They deserve to lose because they cheated.

They deserve to lose -- because they didn't nominate Ron Paul!

I feel like

you just read my mind. i could not agree with you more !!

People forget the Democratic and Republican

party are run by the same puppet master. In order for us to have any chance in 2016 you folks need to take up positions in your GOP Party, Local, CD & State. You see what we did in Minnesota, Iowa and Maine.

The only way it would be fair National Convention is to have people in place at the State Levels. You would be surprise a lot of people don't wont to volunteer their time to the GOP only vote.

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But they hate him

Why would they want Paul to win? Just to have the "R" in the win column but despise all of his policy?

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i think you guys forgot how well the media is controlled

landslide if process was unadulterated, yes. but our memory is short.

This needs to be remembered.

In a fair and honest world Ron Paul would win by a landslide. But in this media/bank controlled world he cannot win. An honest man who will NOT SELL HIS SOUL FOR MONEY cannot be elected, unless we can change the world to an honest place. Good luck with that.

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Things very much DO need to be remembered. How soon they forget bush era and how they hated it, but accept obama who continued that legacy, and then propped romney to boot.

We, and others, are changing the world for the better. It is a slow and difficult process. But I believe that love, honor and dignity will prevail.

Which reminds me...I need to get to work on more comparison sheets :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I don't think deep down they knew

I don't think deep down they care. They wanted Romney, they got Romney, they lost. Now we have the opportunity to make the GOP ours by showing up.

By landslide

It took a lot of work to explain and convince dems and indy's to vote Ron Paul. They saw that Ron deeply cares for our great nation, wanted to end wars, ndaa, patriot act, gitmo, tsa, etc. Some along the way have even dug much deeper, and understand the economics and other areas of his platform, and now have their eyes open.

rnc/gop had the opportunity of a lifetime to change the dynamics of this nation.

They f&cked not only us, but themselves too.

Maybe you'll listen now.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

landslide

is an understatement

would've made reagan's win look like a little bump on a graph.

might have been close

right up until the debates. and then ron would have smoked him

the easiest way to get something done isnt to change the behavior; its to change the meaning of existing behavior. like a cut isnt a cut, torture isnt torture, its enhanced interrogation. war isnt war, its kinetic military action. declaring war now appare

Like an Atomic Blast!

We could have sold tickets to that debate!

Wouldn't Have Been Hard

I think it's obvious that even Gary Johnson would have won if the media and ballot access had been just fair. Most people hate the sport of politics as played by the dominant party teams.

Libertarianism brings us together.

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Not Sure About GJ But I Agree About Ron Paul

RP might not be the greatest speaker but he REALLY understands the issues and has an incredible record of consistency and a truly loyal following. GJ is generally pretty good IMO but I don't think he can convey the issues nearly as well because I don't think he has the fundamental understanding of them that Dr. Paul does.

I think either would've done very well against Obama and I agree that Ron Paul would've won (possibly handily) if really given a fair shake.

RP is an excellent speaker

Ron Paul is a great speaker. The confusion is in the evaluation. A salesman speaks to convince you using exaggerated tone and wording. An intellectual must think, analyzing the question and the questioner's mental state, and giving the appropriate answer often in a way it hasn't yet been given. This looks different. And if you spend time watching honest intellectuals speak, you'll come to view that as great speaking.

Would the special interest groups allow

Ron Paul to win, even if he was the GOP nominee... He was a threat to their power and wealth and he would not be their puppet. He was not willing to sell his soul for MONEY and a chance to hobnob with the elite!

Maybe he is more effective as a respected voice allowed to speak his opinion via the mainstream media. As long as he carries no political power to change the world, such as ending the FED or bringing the troops home, he can speak all he wants.

But he DOES have power simply by existing and contributing his VOICE to the collective. Thank you Dr. Paul. Many in remote places are listening. You are a bright light in the world and have been tremendously effective in shaping world values.