The Ron Paul Effect: How the GOP Threw the Election By Disenfranchising Ron Paul Supporters
Submitted by sailingaway on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 12:45"New analysis reveals that in no less than five states, Romney’s margin of loss to President Obama in the general election was less than the number of votes received by Ron Paul in that state’s primary.
[Here's a screenshot I made of the table if someone wanted to embed it, I don't know how: http://i.imgur.com/aAXgO.png ]
In Florida, for example, Obama defeated Romney by 46,000 votes; meanwhile, Ron Paul received over 117,000 votes in the primary. If only 40% of these Ron Paul Republicans stayed home on Election Day, it would have been enough to cost Romney the state and its 29 electoral votes.
A similar case can be made for Connecticut, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Virginia. Along with Florida, these five states account for a whopping 71 Electoral College votes. Remember that Obama earned 332 electoral votes compared to Romney’s 206. Had Romney won these five states, they would have been sufficient to give him a narrow 277-261 victory over the President."
more: http://www.policymic.com/articles/18815/the-ron-paul-effect-...
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I'm thinking Maine.
How things were run in Tampa left a very bad taste for the GOP.
BTW, Webster is gone!!!
"Write-ins don't count"
"Write-ins, GJ, etc. are wasted/squandered votes"
LOL
"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul
I voted for RP in the FL Primary and did not vote
in the election. I'm 49 years old and have only voted once in my life...for Ross Perot in the early 90's. For sure I would have voted for RP this year, but I figured the selection had already been made and even if our votes did count, the only difference I could see between the 2 were the color of their skin. (and mittens magic underwear)
If the votes were indeed counted, I'm amazed that mittens didn't win. You would think that even if people were just voting to make a change and hope for the best by putting someone else in the whitehouse other than the current tyrant, mittens would have won.
IMHO the PTB were perfectly happy with the ease of getting things done using obama as the figure head that they really had no reason to swap him out for the white guy.
The next few years are going to be wildly unpopular for freedom loving Americans but we can only hope as things continue to deteriorate more people will wake up. Dr Paul is looking beautiful and at least he won't be at the helm when the $hit hits the fan.
I proudly wear my Ron Paul shirts everywhere I go. The republicans can look at me as if RP cost them the election but they had a choice of nominating someone that could have easily beat obummer. They are insane if they think Ron Paul Republicans would stoop to voting for mittens. They figured the RP vote wouldn't really matter. We mattered and my decision to not vote mattered. I wish I had a sticker to have worn on election day that said "Proud to have NOT voted for either tyrant".
DENY CONSENT
Fact check?
Total number of votes in CT looks way too low.
Politico shows Obama winning by nearly 300k votes
They lost because they
They lost because they underestimated We the People. They were counting on the notion that we would buckle and vote for Mitt after all the appalling tricks they pulled during the primary and they were wrong. Now the GOP is broken, and ready to be reassembled.
Heres an excellent companion to this article.
http://zeninthecar.com/2012/11/07/romney-defeated-republican...
http://zeninthecar.com/
Mitt Romney lost because he's a clone of Barack Obama
A libertarian Republican would have beat Obama. A conservative Republican would have beat Obama. Essentially any real Republican would have beat Obama. But the milquetoast gun-grabber didn't have a chance. He's as much a neo-liberal as a neo-conservative.
The undecided said, why should I vote for a copy of Obama when I can have the real deal?
Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.
There were many factors to speculate about
Staircase wisdom is always sweet.
For example, many anti-Semites claim that neo-con Republicans do the war bidding for Jews and Israel. So one would expect Ameerican Jews to support Romney, since he is a more hawk and does not have muslim background. Well, anti-Semites were proved wrong, again. 70% of Jews voted for Obama. And their share is more than all RP supporters combined.
Catholics did their contribution too. Many of them voted for Obama to prevent a Mormon taking the office and bring more brothers from Mexico in.
But the main stroke was from independents. When independents saw that religious fret more about fertilized eggs than about individual liberty, they decided to stay home.
There are Jews and there are Zionists and there is the Likud.
Not all Jews support Israel. Of those that do, many are liberal. The Zionists, who are frothing nationalists, who support the hawkish Likud Party pushed for Romney. Bebe Netanyahu is a Likud leader and Sheldon Adelson is a major bankroller of the Likud party. Adelson first backed Newt in the primaries and when the writing was on the wall, he switched to Willard. The Likudniks were pushing to get Obama out because they want the U.S. to invade Iran. They have not been able to get Obama to do it. They want it because the Iranian-and-Syrian-backed Hezbollah fighters forced an Israeli Defense Force retreat from south Lebanon about 20 years ago. The Likud wants to isolate Hezbollah from its support and re-occupy Lebanon. So, Syria and Iran are targets.
Neocons, like Bill Kristol, are slavishly pro-Zionist. Some are because they are Jewish nationalists and identify with the Jewish state. Some Christians believe Israel is the fulfillment of Revelation prophesy heralding the return of Jesus. Others love Israel because they are on the government contract gravy train. Congress votes foreign aid to Israel which buys American weapons with it. The Israeli and weapons lobby push for Israel in Congress.
The Zionist hawks supported Romney because they wanted Obama out, but they are not a majority of America's Jews.
The happy news is we shot the chicken hawk down.
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You see, you only know what you know
But you know little.
Israel is not your UK limited monarchy or US two-party monopoly.
Israel has 13 political parties in Congress (including 2 Arab parties) and the executive branch is always a coalition of parties. You whine about Likud without understanding that current defence minister is from left Labor Party, foreign minister is from another centrist party and so on. Executive branch can only make an action if majority of the cabinet agrees.
In addition, Congress can pass a non-confidence vote to disband the executive branch at any time with just 51% of vote.
I got as many as three calls every night by an Iraeli group
telling me that only Romney could protect Israel.
Having a disfavorable opinion
Having a disfavorable opinion of Israel and it's policies and disagreeing with neo-cons who bend over for Israel does NOT make someone an anti-Semite. That term is used as a strawman to discredit opposition to Israel.
GOP lost this election because the brand name is shot
The republican brand is tired, tarnished and dead. They lost this election, before it even began. They picked Romney day one, and rode that horse to last place. In our 2 party system there is only first and last.
Coming in the Republicans carried the baggage of Nixon (off-gold standard, Watergate and the San Clemente property scandal) Dems remember that along with Bush's crooked vote count in Florida. Then there's Bush's "weapons of mass destruction" fiasco. Then the character assignation of Obama, instead of a real valid intellectual discussion of why Obama is wrong for America. How can you lose to a socialist in the good ol' USA?
Then they roll out social issues and look like cavemen or dinosaurs when talking about marriage, abortion and other social issues...they walk right into media traps everytime.
Then they disgard free markets and small Gov. (the parties core fundamental's) out the window, with the Medicare Drug Program, and Paul Ryan's sudden support of Medicare. They argue for more defense spending when the country is flat out broke, and tired of war...Romney in debate 1.
If that is not enough, they throw Ron Paul campaign (one of their very own guys) under the bus, and his delegates afterward...imagine Dems laughing at that - "those guys threw Ron Paul out".
You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to support that kind of a political party. And now John Boehner, saying he supports tax increases ?!! There's a two mouthed monster for you.
Look Karl Rove and all the chain smoking, golf club, corrupt lying old guys in the RNC need to be cleaned out - if the name Republican is to even survive the next ten years. These guys are dinosaurs, and it hurts Ron Paul's popularity and platform to be associated in that group
And Hannity, Limbaugh, Trump, Coulter the Drudge Report, Fox News and other RNC cheerleaders did no favors to the brand name either. Some Americans are smart, intelligent folks that see right through this, carry substantial influence and want NOTHING to do with this group.
Who in America wants to be associated with this group...really who ? Can you imagine a Democrat thinking about changing to Republican and hearing Limbaugh one day ? It scares them in 10 secs flat.
I campaigned hard for Ron Paul, and made great progress to help bring people to love 'Ron Paul politics', but many of those people want nothing to do with the creature the RNC has become.
That beast - the RNC - needs to be rebuilt from scratch.
"This isn't what the govern meant"
"Win the crowd and you will win your freedom"
The GOP is a circular manipulated party with unclear motives
The GOP is a done party. And for good riddance.
It surely cost them MY vote.
It surely cost them MY vote.
Unelectable
Romney.
I dont think
they care. The Republicrat party still won.
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What did the GOP expect?
They basically spit in the faces of RP supporters and others especially the youth and expect a positive outcome. Would never vote for BO but he's smart enough to know not to insult a group whether they agree with him or not... RP 2016!
Could you add to your screen shot these states too?
There is Nevada, Iowa, and New Hampshire where us Paulbots did really well. Other states too such as Alaska, Washington, etc...
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The GOP made their bed, now
The GOP made their bed, now they've got to sleep in it.
I Agree
with you 100%. Everyone is hoping that the RNC will learn from this but they won't. You have to remember that the Global-est are running both parties. So they, the Global-est, are sure to have their puppet either way. The first thing we have to do is return the RNC back to us before we see a change.
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The GOP dug their graves,
The GOP dug their graves, lets bury them.
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As Bastiat said about
As Bastiat said about socialist economic views, I wish the neo-con establishment wing of the GOP will be forever forgotten from the pages of history, never to be remembered or thought of again. Let's give America a real choice in 2016.
As shallow a victory as Ron
As shallow a victory as Ron in Mitt's VP slot would have been, I would have felt somewhat happy to vote for Romney knowing that Ron would have been closer to the White House. Like I said months ago "wrong Paul" and then of course, the FB crowd came after me. Fools.
I'd have voted for that just for Ron to have the microphone
of VP but I knew it would never happen, Romney's money would never have accepted it.
Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul
They've lost more than an election.
PolicyMic emanates a stink, and offers up 5 possible candidates in 2016:
1. Paul Ryan
2. Chris Christie
3. Marco Rubio
4. Jeb Bush
5. Condoleezza Rice
I think Jeb Bush is the GOPs next puppet of choice and slated to lose in 2016; probably teamed with Condoleezza Rice to try sell it as a legitimate package that at least tried to win.
Of course, they'll lose badly while at the same time seeming distant and out of touch with minority voters, implying that conservatism and liberty is only for fat middle aged white guys.
Santorum was offered the
Santorum was offered the nomination if he would quit so there would be no chance of a brokered convention. Just the same way Romney was offered it when he bailed out for McCain.
Oh how I wonder, oh how I worry
And I would dearly like to know
How all this squander of earthly plunder
will leave us anything to show
Could very well be.
But with what Rick Santorum has said about fighting Libertarianism within the Republican party, I think he may just be done. He's not sellable as a legitimate choice, but neither is Jeb Bush and that won't stop em.
You're probably right.
I am highly encouraged after looking at those numbers.
The dark, blue state of Connecticut was only 3,808 votes away from going red for the first time since 1988. That would be like the Democrats winning Georgia, albeit with South Carolina's number of electoral votes. Ohio, Virginia, Florida, and New Hampshire were all EASILY winnable.
Frankly put, Obama was CLEARLY beatable. Tim Pawlenty would have taken Ohio, Wisconsin, Virginia, and Florida. Rick Santorum would have won Ohio, Virginia, and Florida. And Ron Paul would have won every single swing state with the possible exceptions of Nevada and taken Connecticut and possibly one or two more blue states as well.
This country isn't gone yet folks. If we diligently educate people and take over the Republican Party, we can take this country back to the Constitution within twenty years.
we don't have 20 years. this
we don't have 20 years. this thing is over in 4 years or less. Economically it is over. This was our last chance. The next thing you will see is economic collapse and civil war.
Oh how I wonder, oh how I worry
And I would dearly like to know
How all this squander of earthly plunder
will leave us anything to show