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I Will Not Stop Never Shall I Stop Rp 2016

Fight to return our freedoms, start today in the fight for the WH in 2016, lets let them know the next 4 years will be the start of something new.

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I'm not so sure.

I think we should just keep using "Ron Paul 2012".

Let it show we were fighting for MORE than an office or a politician. Part of me hopes that a hundred years from now, Liberty minded people will still be screaming:

"Ron Paul 2012"

Maybe this will help:

It sends the message loud and clear, and never expires :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

RON PAUL 2016!


I don't play, I commission the league.

Ron Paul himself Stopped.

Ron Paul stopped back in April.

One can only imagine the possibilities if Ron Paul had aggressively fought Mitt Romney all throughout May/June/July/August, and embraced his delegate brigade into the Convention Hall and told them to stand-up and either place his name in Nomination .. or mutiny (if blocked).

Even if Romney had prevailed anyway, a public Revolution would've been visible and this would've set the stage for a large counterforce that the GOP couldn't ignore, the Media couldn't ignore, and major concessions would have to be made.

But Ron Paul turtled-up and went silent back in April.
There was no Campaign....

If the movement is to be rebuilt, how can we expect Ron Paul to lead it, when he just gave up so easily and prematurely way back in April 2012, and was happy to give Mitt Romney an unimpeded path to the Nomination?

A man who didn't even want any fuss made at the Convention, cannot possibly lead a GOP makeover.

Dr. Paul didn't

stop. America stopped him.

He/we got his ideas out there (miraculously on limited budgeting!! vs. The Establishment) but America wouldn't vote for limited (Constitutional) government.

That's not Dr. Paul's fault. You don't force liberty down someone's throat. They have to learn why it's best if they don't already know.

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So "Liberty" Baby

You're really going to bash Ron Paul? Really? How about you tell all of us what you've done to advance Liberty and compare that to Ron Paul! After looking at your posts over time, you're just a negative person and a total downer. But then again, I've seen a lot of your kind lately on this forum.

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

The Point....

The point is that Ron Paul decided to abandon his own supporters (and his own campaign) in April, and kill off all the momentum, and the traction, and visibility behind this movement (that he himself had began).

So we do need to talk about what to do about 2016 now, and how to move forward.

Who will be able to carry the message, but also really fight for it and not shrink from the battle?

I think Ron Paul has proven that he'll check-out and won't be there....if he starts winning delegates (he really just wants to be an 'educator', and not a President).

I think Rand Paul has proven that he will fall in line with the GOP Party Leadership (Romney...Jeb Bush?) when the odds are long, and he lacks the commitment that his father had to cut spending in a compassionate way that is focused on the Military and Wall-Street subsidies (while leaving SS/Medicare in place for those who need it).

Gary Johnson won just 1% of the vote Nationally. This is better than any other Libertarian President has done before, but it was not a very encouraging sign (I was expecting 3%-4% at least).

So where do we go from here?

I don't know the answer to that question, but a repeat of the feeble 2011-2012 Primary attempt cannot be the answer here. We need someone who is really in it to win, and really in it to fight, and is not afraid to go aggressive after the chosen GOP Establishment man (Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush).

I can't help that it appears negative, but what happened in April/May has no positive or instructive result. It is back to the drawing board ....... and that discussion must take place (honestly).


Ron is not going to save you... Rand has no intention of saving you. YOU and those like you have to save EACH OTHER now!!!