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Best Ways To Screw Up The Liberty Movement - Your Input Requested

Just hoping to put together a list of the best ways to screw up any hopes for the so-called liberty movement in 2014 and 2016.

Please list all your favorite distractions, abstractions, ad-hominum arguments, and general time-wasting silliness here.

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Thanks everyone for your input.

This is called war-gaming. Predict the worst and plan for it...

Only 6 minus-votes - I'll take it.
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By sacrificing on principles

By sacrificing on principles and by excluding those who have views which are consistent with liberty but may be considered "fringe" (i.e., conspiracies, etc.). Every idea that Ron Paul has pushed forward was only a few years ago considered fringe.

Have a drumbeat...

Have a drumbeat of Johnson posts everyday on the DailyPaul.

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"The best ways to screw up the liberty movement."

hahaha they are really trolling now

Can't figure out how to beat them ask them how to beat themselves. okay I'll say let the Ron Paul movement take over the GOP that will really mess them up. Maybe even spend all the GOP's money running adds about how Ron Paul was right on everything and all Republicans should follow him. That should also really mess them up. Jeez! this stuff gets more lame every day.

Took the words...

...right out of my mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are only a few of us that know the answers.

You just need to beat perhaps a handful of guys/gals. Is this a good place to plug the sheriff plan again?

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Shriek at, insult and belittle conservatives to "enlighten" them

Because calling someone an "ignorant Bilderberg Illuminati Zionist neo-con murdering Trilateralist pig" is a sure way to get them to see the error of their ways and welcome your message.

"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." - Ronald Reagan

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7) Promote lots of conspiracy theories.

7) Promote lots of conspiracy theories within the liberty community. The more the better. And if you can make the conspiracy theories involve complicated and controversial "scientific" evidence that no one without a postgraduate or medical degree could begin to evaluate, so much the better. Your theories should fly in the face of conventional wisdom and involve discrediting the opinions of large numbers of highly educated professionals.

If successful, the benefits of this technique are numerous. You can make libertarians look foolish or paranoid. You can also discredit libertarian leaders in the eyes of the general public through guilt by association or by making it appear that they support your theories by misquoting or quoting them out of context. You can even undermine their reputation and influence within the movment by accusing them of being a sellout, naive or a mole for not subscribing to your theories. You can hide the very real, well-documented conspiracies (like the MSM censorship of Ron Paul) by raising the level of noise so that they are dismissed by the public as mere paranoid ravings. You can discourage and frustrate honest, intelligent libertarians and drive them away form online forums as they tire of constantly being attacked or having their time wasted debunking an endless assortment of half-baked rumors.

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The Virtual Conspiracy

6) Keep the discussion on the "unresolveables".

6) Keep the discussion on the "unresolveables". Whenever possible bring up or change the topic to something that is guaranteed to elicit a very emotional reaction in most people. Topics involving religion are a slam dunk, but almost any of the social conservative topics like abortion or gay marriage will work almost as well. And it doesn't really matter which side of the issue you take as long as you make sure that you insist that no one can be a true lover of liberty unless they agree with one side or the other. Since people have been vehemently debating the existence of God for millenia you are almost guaranteed a great tail-chasing dialogue with nothing to be gained but a lot of wasted time and hurt feelings.
Also, accuse anyone who tries to redirect the conversation to something more relevant of censorship.

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The Virtual Conspiracy

4) Whenever possible make it personal.

4) Whenever possible make it personal.Don't attack an idea, attack the PERSON. This not only works for individuals working at the grassroots or writing on Internet forums, it is also a good way of smearing libertarian leaders or candidates without debating IDEAS.

5) Whenever possible TAKE it personally. If someone is making a good rebuttal or trying to bring the discussion back to a relevant issue accuse them of attacking YOU (or some other sympathetic character). This will the dialogue into a death spiral of "he-said, she-said", short circuit any hope of building consensus, and (if you're REALLY skilled) get effective activists banned from forums for being "disruptive". At the very least you will discourage and frustrate them to the point where they will be less likely to show up and contribute.

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Hold everyone to a lesser standard of ideological

purity so every candidate will pass the mustard. And harp on those that have higher standards as if they're the ones wrong.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

I think we are already headed this way...

This is what I believe will be the death of this movement.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

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good

very good.

Don't feed the pandas. Ever.

Thank you.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

1) Convince everyone that the

1) Convince everyone that the only thing that matters are the presidential elections and that they should now go to sleep for another four years.
2) Convince everyone that the Republican party/the political system/the United States, etc. is/are too corrupt and/or stupid to ever be reformed so we should all just quit.
3) Hold everyone to a ridiculous standard of ideological purity so that no one can build coalitions within the freedom movement or find candidates that are worthy of our support.

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Promote a politician while pretending you checked him or

her out thoroughly.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Let it be taken ove by liberals.

Hey! What do you know? It already has been.

Bash Republicans, praise an Obama win and argue in favor of big corporations. Yep looks like a liberal take over to me.

Remember war is peace.

i will step up

The other day I had called a friend of mine. we discussed about the elections and he agreed we are getting 4 more years of the same thing. I told him that this is now the time to change the mines of the people and you know what he told me? ahh its wasted effort, its all over already TPTB will get what they want and were all going to die hurr durr.

I will admit Im actually quite concern about this mind set regarding Liberty Lovers in that Our Founding Fathers of Freedom would NOT be saying these things over 300 years ago. Please DP'ers dont give up on your own Country! dont give up on LIBERTY! stop acting like a Prisoner waiting to be sent to a ditch and shot in the back of the head, and act like Leaders of a R3VOLUTION!

You may all think many people are against you but in short these Ideas are Flammable and catch on so quickly why would you want to quit while you have the upper hand? IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DONT GIVE UP ON FREEDOM!

http://youtu.be/gr_OpFxCx-A

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

Awesome points.

And thanks for the braveheart video link...
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Don't feed the pandas. Ever.

Use lots

of naughty words...
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Don't feed the pandas. Ever.