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"I do not have much confidence in the political system and never did." - Ron Paul

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Paul took his message to campuses such as the University of California at Berkeley and the University of Texas at Austin -- both located in liberal hotbeds -- during this year's campaign. He drew thousands of people to the Berkeley and Austin events.

As for why he's leaving the U.S. House, Paul said, "I think people had enough of me. I do not have much confidence in the political system and never did."

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probably why I always liked . . .

Ron Paul.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Me neither, Ron.

Kindred spirits unite!

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
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That sounds like the Russian

That sounds like the Russian Revolution.

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We need to become the political system
Submitted by armchairpickleback on Sat, 11/10/2012 - 12:34. Permalink
and then destroy it.

We need to become the political system

and then destroy it.

Government used to be for the people by the people.

It is something else now, a monstrous controlling multi headed corporation that values nothing more than PROFIT.

If the people want their own government they will have to let this monster die by not feeding any more of the people's tax dollars. Build and buy local. Build your house slowly as you can afford to. No longer deal in any credit. Live simple within your means. No credit buying. Refuse to fight wars! That is big corporate income. Do not use obamacare! Look after your own health. If you can, give up eating industrial-farmed animals for food. Give up flesh, grow your own food as much as possible.

Form a new nation for the people by the people. Start at the grassroots. Stay local. Help each other.

Have to agree

The way I see it is, the political system has been hijacked to create a government that is nothing more then the consolidation of privately owned corporations.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

well i never thought I'd disagree with the good Dr.

but I have to disagree with the good Dr. Sure the Federal Political System is fractured but look at whats going on in the states. WA and CO legalized MJ. Nullification's in my home state, UT legalizes Gold and Silver. its all starting quite rapidly within the local level and that my friend is only the beginning. Im sure after this election their will be many great things for Liberty to come.

You know your leading your community in the right direction when your state disobeys Federal Law.

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

They aren't disobeying federal law until they effectively

nullify it.

And by effectively, I mean they are willing and actually do, deploy state police, sheriffs, and guardsmen to defend the inalienable rights of their Citizens against unlawful federal lethal force.

Until they begin arresting federal agents acting under color of law, until they start staring down gun to gun, federal assassination squads to defend the life, liberty and property of their inhabitants, then this is all Pollyannish Bravo Sierra.

Mind you, shooting doesn't have to happen. No one wants it to. But the States have to be prepared to do their job, and the Feds have to be willing to stick within the confines of the Constitution.

If either of those fails, then we either get revolution, or capitulation.

Which is it going to be?

Three choices only one of them is peaceful, and if it occurs, that's only up to the Feds. Will they obey the law? Or will they force a needless confrontation?

i see what your saying

yet your perspective of nullification is a bit far stretched. I hear constantly "states need to do their job, they need to be doing MORE" until we can grasp the concept that a government is a Monopolized small group of publicly elected individuals who are comprised of people, then we will never see the minds of free individuals. leading toward your capitulation scenario.

When I say state I am referring to the state as a whole including its citizens. The People are demanding change, this tipping point is reaching far and wide with what to do about Federal policy. The People are starting to see that they must do something within their community at any cost. This must continue thru the tireless task of Educating on what the role of government ought to be.

leading toward your revolution scenario.


His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

What do you mean by far fetched? That it will never

happen? Sure, but unless it does, we are doomed.

When I speak of States, I'm talking about State governments.

Theirs is the immediate task of securing our Liberty, and the first object they have to secure it against is the government created by the Constitution - specifically, the Congress, the President and the Article III courts.

Our greatest danger lies in centralized power. That is why the Framers limited it to only a few subject matters. (too many in my estimation though)

If the States, that is, the People through their State governments, don't stand up to the Feds and secure the Life, Liberty and Property of their Citizens, then absolutely NOTHING is going to stop the Feds from implementing total control - NOTHING.

The People individually are incapable. They might eventually be willing, or at least resigned to do something, but they will be crushed as long as State governments are not doing their job to back them.

This is how the system was designed. The State governments are a critical firewall. Without them, we are toast.

That doesn't mean we can't come up with a better system. But it means that this is the system we have, and while we have it, we either have to work it, or we have to wait for complete collapse and chaos.

And in that scenario, there are no assurances anyone with a Liberty mindset will be in a position to see we don't end up worse off than we are now.

Bottom line - either our local and State Governments step up and do their job of securing rights, or the Fat Lady has indeed belted her last tune.

Right, currently the response

Right, currently the response of states is largely false bravado. Notice that Montana just passed a referendum opposing implementation of ObamaCare. Now, how will the state prevent the IRS from confiscating funds from Montanans or jailing its citizens, eh? YEARS ago, I suggested that state legislatures adopt legislation proposed by Ray McBerry, a candidate for governor of the state of Georgia. His plan to route collection of taxes through a state agency BEFORE distribution would give the states the power to ENFORCE such referendums. * With such a state agency overseeing tax receipts, the IRS wouldn't receive a dime of money from Montana's taxpayers UNLESS the constitutionality of such taxes was approved by the state of Montana. So, now that Montana has passed such a referendum against ObamaCare, the state would have had TEETH to prevent the implementation of ObamaCare IF such a state agency as envisioned by McBerry was already in place. Ray McBerry is a genius of political strategy and would have made a terrific governor.

* For example, collections occurring at political levels greater than or equal to the state of Montana.

Yes, McBerry's legislative package was a good start.

But Montana could combine this move by arresting any IRS agent attempting to unlawfully enforce Subtitle A upon anyone not realizing gain or profit from corporate activities. (If you aren't sure why I said it that way, do a little digging here on DP)

If they would demand that USC 26 be enforced PROPERLY as the Supreme Court has said it should be many times, then Obamacare would not be a worry to most people of Montana, and most of them, would not be paying so-called "income tax" because they don't owe it. Since Obamacare's mandate is merely a surtax upon the already existing income tax, and since it doesn't expand upon whom the income tax applies, then it is necessarily limited to the same small group of people that the income tax is limited to.

But I don't expect anyone in Montana's government to have a clue or a backbone.

The Bottom Line...

These words, the campaigns actions... It's clear that he NEVER wanted the job... I just wish he would of told us that, the second time around, when we all thought he was committed toward winning.

Apparently, he was building something for Rand. And Rand threw it all away when he endorsed Romney...

This confirms the worst suspicions and accusations from RP's critics... and it saddens and sickens me...

At least now we know that we are on our own... And can move on...

I don't think that is fair

Anyone who has listened to what he's said knows he only ever got into politics to bring the ideas of liberty into the discussion. Him winning the election would have been an awesome bonus but consider how many people he energized. That, my friend, is much more valuable that winning elections.

"We are on our own"? Apparently you didn't read the part about him staying active with bring the issues of liberty into discussion. If he did decide to step into retirement and do nothing more with the liberty movement I see no reason why that should stop anything. He's contributed quite a bit. I am thankful for that.

Personally, I will never have "enough" of Dr. Paul!!

Why won't you tell me who you voted for?

That would give the elections too much credibility!!

Go Ron Go!!!!!!!!!!

I've no confidence either

I'm a medical student with a wife and 3 kids, so lots going on and not making any change rapidly, but I've been working on getting my wife used to the idea of moving out the US for a while now. At first it was "no way", now she's open to Canada or a few years in Europe after residency.

I'm not one that thinks we're headed for concentration camps or the like; but I do see our freedoms being constantly eroded and don't think it will stop. My whole life I've heard how lucky I was to be born in America...well I am glad I was born here, but I don't believe in American exceptionalism (other countries can work just as hard and have just as much inspiration as we have). When I was a boy I had a placematt of the worlds nations. I would mentally play RISK while eating breakfast. 1st we annex Canada then Mexico, next we claim South America as ours, etc....well I often feel our grown leaders still play that game to different degrees. The American policy of gov't doesn't respect the principles of freedom, justice, liberty, human life, or almost anything domestically or abroad. It embarrass me and saddens me. I no longer worry my children will have less opportunity if I leave. We may say & we may not, it's 7 or so years before it would even be possible. But I'm open to it because really there as far less to be proud of as an American than the songs and news programs might claim.

Let me see if I understand this

Since you are worried about losing more freedoms, the best next action is to relocate to where you would have even less freedom than you do currently.

Is that some way to get used to less freedom?

Stay and fight, so your kids can be proud, and will continue the fight. It won't ever be over. What's the saying..."Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel."

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I agree with Dr. Paul

in that at this point in time I have very little faith in the current political system. That being said; however, we would do very well to learn from our enemies...when the system is not working for you, become the system. That is what has happened in this country. Over a long period of time, they worked their way into the system and became the policymakers and ultimately came to control the system itself. We should do the same, just as Ron Paul has alluded to. Work our way into the system (infiltrate it) one position at a time, until we again get back the power that we have lost. This process requires a lot of time and a lot of patience, but can be accomplished. Whatever, happens, we can't just throw our hands up, give up and walk away, because then they've won. Losing this game is not an option, because the stakes are just far too high!

Ron Paul is no dummy. He

Ron Paul is no dummy. He knew at the end of the day they would do what they could to not allow him to debate Obama. Im guessing he said a little prayer or was prepared to have it all end every time he attended a public function.

Who here does have confidence in the political process

yet we tried anyway and we'll continue to try as he would want us to.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Ron Paul is a Voluntarist

So what say all the "lets take over the GOP" people?

Ron Paul gets it. The duopoloy of communists with the Republican wing are too far gone. He knows it has to be grassroots, non-violent, and outside the status quo.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

The same thing we always say and what Dr.Paul's plan were

.. Take over the GOP.

Nothing has changed nor do his words suggest differently.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Not Unless...

...we become the political system.

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