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"Pedophilia" on track to become "Minor Attracted" and protected as "sexual orientation"

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

"In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.
B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization’s website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”
In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”

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Young childhood abuse-rape under age 8 etc associated w occult

I'm a firm believer in natural causes for things, not the "supernatural" or spells, per say.

However, raping someone at an early age is the cause of all sorts of "forgotten memories" and emotional problems - read the news almost every day about survivors of early child rapes.

That forgotten memory etc, is a natural "spell". It requires no esoteric or special knowledge. Anyone who horrifically abuses children will discover that in their own experience, and then further apply it.

Then compare all the occultism writings that advocate sexual abuse, including the talmud, many ancient cults, witchcraft, etc.

If you are wondering where all the occult is coming from, it isn't because supernatural means exist, it's the child abuse.

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I might add a young mind

I might add a young mind raped at an early age might more easily believe in something like spells, might even provide some comfort or as an explanation to what as an adult is easily explained - it's just evil. Rape. Someone covering it up at an age the child doesn't even understand social things.

I could go on citing statistics. But child abuse and the occult is closely linked. The child rapes is what is actually going on. There is no other spell, no special brainwashing or programming technique. It's just rape. And society covering it up.

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What's the number 1 niche in

What's the number 1 niche in online porn?

"YOUNG".

So while everyone runs around acting all high and mighty about these kinds of issues, those same people are probably watching those kinds of relationships online via adult video - lol. While I agree that pedophilia is NOT a sexual orientation, I don't really view it as some kind of evil. Young people, whatever their age, will at some point start having sex and it will sometimes be with older men and women. Big whoop. What this really comes down to is (as usual) bad parents trying to outlaw the results of their inability to teach and trust their own kids to make good decisions. It's rather obvious that people look their best when they're young from around 16 to 25, then it's all downhill from there! lol.. Just the way it all works. Why do you think some 16, 17 and 18 year old's look their best, AND their hormones are raging? THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OUT MULTIPLYING, THAT'S WHY! I know this truth bugs society today but I don't care. I firmly believe that natural desires are being quashed by society "norms" which delays what should be done at a much earlier and younger age. The statutory rape laws are absurd and do more damage than the teenage sex itself. But that's a separate issue.

I don't think the kind of pedophilia the APA

is referring to here is a 20 year old having sex with a sixteen year old. More like a 30 year old having sex with a 12 year old. There is something mentally wrong with that. But, I agree with your point on statutory rape a lot of young men's lives have been ruined for consensual acts with teen girls.

I don't believe teens can have consensual sex.

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At what point does someone become capable

of making consensual agreements? Do you think government to be the appropriate method to decide this?

My rule is rules are made to be broken.

That makes me skeptical of my ability to make rules for others.

A child isn't asking if is alright to go to the X rated flick. They are asking for permission. What do you think and why?? That puts the responsibility back where it where it belongs.

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Not even married teens?

?

Married implies community assent.

They would be a better judge than I.

At twenty-one, Mon asked me, "Gee, What's the hurry?"

I had no answer but plowed on regardless.

Mom was never one to get between a fool and their folly.

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There is a difference between

There is a difference between saying that a 17, 16, 15 or hell maybe even 14 year old is old enough to consent to sex(which I believe they are) and arguing that older men/women can have sex with young (13 and under) children. I'll admit that setting a single age may not be the best solution and there needs to be some kind of a case by case approach to it all.

"My theories explain, but cannot slow the decline of a great civilization. I set out to be a reformer, but only became the historian of decline."
- Ludwig Von Mises

From the viewpoint of 60, I say no.

I was far more clever at twenty than I am now. Now I say that I had no idea what I was getting into.

Few under twenty have the mental maturity to deal with the stresses of sexual emotions.

Youngsters can't volunteer what they don't even understand.

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Thank you all for your attention to this.

Modern healthcare offers neither health nor care, and "mental" health acre is totally insane.
This comment is not about "homophobia" - it is a sad fact: To grieve is a mental illness, to be gay is not.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Mental Health acre is totally insane!

But I was so tempted! LOL!

But, Where Do The Children Play - Cat Stevens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a4DCxAi020

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There is a media push on in favour of pederasts and pedophiles.

Lately in the UK media there has been a rash of stories about pedophilia especially with regard to show business personalities from the 1960's and 1970's like Jimmy Saville and Gary Glitter.

This is usually the first step in the process to familiarise the public to the practice and to inure them to it.

Perhaps you remember Alexander Pope's short verse that explains this process:

“Vice is a monster of so frightful mien, As to be hated needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, we first endure, then pity, then embrace”

I believe the moral decline in sexual public morals began after the Great War but it was given a kick into high gear by the Kinsey Reports in 1948 and 1953. These lent a false academic credibility to perverse sexual behaviour. This continues in every facet of public life.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Please. Everyone knows girls

Please. Everyone knows girls magically become attractive the day they become 18.

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Just like everyone knows that...

Just like everyone knows that boys AND girls become magically :

1. responsible enough to vote and decide of the fate of a nation at the same age of 18

2. mature enough to drink alcohol with moderation at the age of 21

3. 4. 5. etc, etc.

The big lie of big bureaucratic and regulation addicted big governments :

that the arbitrary of a few can deny or render obsolete the milleniums old wisdom of the familial cell and of the Golden Rule.

Just LEARN about the sort things that the highest instances of Big Government will ALWAYS make sure they can GET AWAY WITH, if needed :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infected_blood_scandal_(France)

Then, expect from the same CRIMINALS or PERVERTS to use the power of THE STATE to enforce the legalization of their sexual "preferences".

How can ANYONE be surprised by this evolution ? How can anyone be surprised that they start with so called "doctors" / scientific reports to lay down the first bricks for the path of their future perversion performances ?

That said, the fish HEAD always starts rotting FIRST, but it is in the end to spread over the entire body...

I have seen 20 something year old men :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqe8Cfy0Tsc

more mature than sick 40 something year old violent childish losers predating on your young girls and/or beating up the N-th working woman who sustains them, and yet they will still never marry, encouraging her to have an abortion, because, "hey, it's your choice / your body, female, anyway, see how cool a dude I am" ... them, parasitic sc*mbags.

But sure, of course, those who defy, despise, mock, spit on, and hate the valuing of individuals' freedoms and qualities are the same who will not cease to lesson you in which nice little jars, and with which nice little labels everybody else ought to be grouped together ... or not.

Everything else of these millenium old values and principles in individuals and family circles are irrelevant now when THE STATE planners can always decide what is right or wrong, or useful, in all people's lives ... and when, for their "fair share society and social equality".

Yeah, right.

Q.E.D.

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This mentality

This mentality is born out of the Talmud and brought to our living rooms by The Frankfurt School.

Put Freud, Zionism and Sexual Revolution into YT.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

It didn't come from men's writings

Men will write, poorly or incompletely about things that are real.

Just because a dog is humping my leg doesn't mean he listened to Freud or Bernays. Just get that mutt away from me.

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A well trained dog

A well trained dog doesn't hump your leg.
Your comment is stupid on all levels.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

if anyone here listens to

if anyone here listens to Alan Watt, he talks about this subject quite a bit - especially recently given the Jimmy Savile scandal(Savile had been molesting kids for years all the way until his death and the BBC/Govt/Celebs covered it up for him)

he points out this document from international planned parenthood - which on the surface appears benign - but really foretells the future strategy: rights of the child/childhood sexuality

http://ippf.org/resources/publications/Exclaim-Young-Peoples...

"My theories explain, but cannot slow the decline of a great civilization. I set out to be a reformer, but only became the historian of decline."
- Ludwig Von Mises

That they acknowledge the experiences as abuse...

...in the 1998 report and try to downplay the experiences to justify the abuse, tells me all I need to know about them.

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Oh yes, all WE need to know.

Oh yes, all WE need to know.

Indeed.

Not missing the tiniest single bit of it, and merely by extrapolating. On their "background".

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Know the source of the problem.

Force or authority misused is the goal of governments. They have no problem driving men, women and children though lines of groping adults.

Why is government tempting the adults to behave in ways that appear to justify their managed bad behavior?

Understanding one's sexual reactions and managing them civilly is not sexual repression. In a civil society men and women over the millennia have continuously rediscovered that Murder, Theft, Fraud, Covetousness and Disrespect destroys true culture.

Governments by their nature, blaspheme. Meaning the taking on the robe of authority by declaring a divine right to force their will on men.

Divinity is the right or power. Not use of power over others. True religiosity informs the clay creature that being free is the start of recognizing our deepest inspiration.

Leaving other free may bring true culture. I the meantime we can at least be civil and in hopes that culture will blossom.

Government can't leave us free. That is the task of individuals seeking civil intercourse.

Children are exempt. A child cannot volunteer without understanding what they are sacrificing and why.

LRC Podcast 71. Psychiatry as an Arm of the State
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2008/11/20/71-ps...

Thanks++, for posting, fishy..

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I agree with

Wisdom Strategies that this trash is not gonna fly!

And this is absolute horse tookey: "...In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences...”

Molested children FREQUENTLY grow up having trust issues, thereby having difficulty sustaining any relationship, let alone a loving, healthy one. Molested children FREQUENTLY grow up with very low self-esteem, FREQUENTLY getting involved in abusive relationships. Molested children FREQUENTLY grow up and abuse alcohol and drugs--to help deaden the pain of their (memories of) molestation...

To be very honest here, just reading the above makes me want to 'flip out'!!!

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OMG!!

This tells us a lot about American psychiatrists! They're nuts!! Are they in denial? Are they an association of child sex abusers? How can they claim "...that the negative potential of adult sex with children was overstated!?!" And further claim the vast majority of sexually abused minors had no negative effects from being abused??? I just can't wrap my mind around this.

it's the same group of morons

that prescribe drugs to get off drugs.
quackery.

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try it with any of the kids in my family

and see how "protected" they are.

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Same here

Same here. Father here, too.

Yes. They can always try to come over here with their rhetoric, and attempt things against OUR kids.

Oh yes, sure : they can ***TRY***.

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Normal adults feel protective toward children, not LUST.

Years ago I was having coffee with a group of people and one in the group (unknown to us) was a pedophile. This man furtively bragged about having sex with the 9 year old daughter of one of the women present. No one else seemed to catch what the bast__d was saying, but I tend to be very perceptive. Years later the little girl went to the police and the bast__d went to JAIL. Hope he was used there as he used that child. It ruined her life. She ended up on street drugs.

This is BS from sick minds. "In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.” BS

And some will make excuses

on why it is normal just like the other deviants below follow suit and make excuses for the other deviants that this organization has reclassified.