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Time to abolish the electoral college?

Don't be fooled by talk of eliminating the Electoral College. It is a very important institution. See this discussion on Veterans Today. It is an article about "Federal Campaign Reform". I left a couple comments and there is another that I think is informative. I mostly disagree with the article for the reasons I specify in the comment section. I welcome other comments or corrections.

TOP 10 Ideas for Federal Campaign Reform
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/08/top-10-ideas-for-fed...



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We need Gold States and Green States

If we start running independents in states that are "safe blue" or "safe red", things will start to shake loose, and force them to focus on more than 4 or 5 states. This year, it has started in Maine and Vermont.

In the presidential race, if the 3 or 4 other candidates focused their resources on 1 state each- model it after a Senate campaign, the psychological effect alone would be worth it. The electoral maps would look like a patchwork quilt.

Gold and Green!

Great colors. A's colors. I'm a Giants fan, but I like the A's too.

Instead of the 3 or 4 national candidates doing that, it should be up to the State Parties of those candidates to focus like that. The Greens should focus on a few states they think they can win, based on the State Party activism, Constitution the same, Libertarian the same.

The job of the national candidates is to get into the debates. Their job is to change the way the media and the public see the presidential election, and politics in general, but getting into the Debates and being part of the dialouge.

The job of winning electoral college votes is up to the State Parties, not the national candidates. The National Candidates job for third-parties and Independents is to get into the Debates.

In order to win Electors the State Parties need to build their voter base over the next four years; first with local election/issues, then with state wide, then again with local, then again with state. Keep that up and you will know when it is time to win Electors.

Jack Wagner

Keep the electoral college or risk the final end of the Republic

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I replied and posted this...

I disagree with abolishing the Electoral College. It is antiquated, but it serves a purpose that is vital to our republic. The Electoral College gives the minority a voice. In a pure democracy, the majority rules. The minority feels disenfranchised and the Founders knew this could someday lead to another revolution.

The majority of the US population, 79% per the 2000 census, live in urban areas. By state, only Missouri and West Virginia have less than 50% living in urban areas. If the Electoral College were removed, then politicians would only try to appeal to the urban centers of the population. Campaign's don't have limitless finances, they have to get the most bang-for-their-buck. Why spend money running adds and driving all over a state visiting rural areas to towns with only a few thousand people? The time and money would be far more efficiently spent in cities. Essentially, rural minorities would fall under the tyranny of the urban majority and have no voice in choosing the President.

Under the current system, the Electoral College, the election routinely comes down to a few "swing states". Many complain about this and feel that their vote is "less important" because they don't live in a swing state. In reality, the swing states help to enfranchise the minority, whether they realize it or not.

Since a Presidential candidate has to campaign on a state-by-state basis instead of nationally, they have to appeal to a wider range of people within the state. By the virtue of being "close races" swing state urban areas are divided. In order to get the coveted votes needed to win the state, the candidates must appeal to the minority rural voters as well.

A rural farmer in deep-blue California may ask, what good is that to me? The question to ask the farmer is, who is he more likely to share a common interest, a city-dweller in Los Angeles, or a rural farmer in Ohio?" The answer is a rural farmer in Ohio is more likely to share his common interest. Thanks to the Electoral College, the interests of the minority are protected.

Time to abolish the party system, restore the republic

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