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Anyone on the DP become a Ron Paul fan after being a liberal?

I feel like most stories are "I used to be a neocon but then I saw the light". It's my gut feeling that a significant percentage of Ron Paul supporters used to be "right-wing" politically. Personally, I'm far more of a "reformed-liberal" (not that I was very political at that time).

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Liberal

I was. Straight up democrat. Then I saw "America Freedom to Fascism" and I became a delegate for Dr. Ron Paul. I will never go back. I only wish that Dr. Paul was our president right now. I would have loved going to the inaugural pot luck, cause you know he would want to spend money on that. Cant' wait to see what is next for Dr. Paul.

I'm not going to say I was

I'm not going to say I was liberal or Democrat, because in 2007/2008 when I was 19 years old, I really didn't know what those terms meant or cared for that matter. If you asked me during that time though what I thought of universal health care, free college education, or the ability of unions to demand exorbitant wages...I would have said, "yeah, I would agree with that".

I didn't vote in 2008 though. I started to follow Ron Paul in 2007, but just very loosely. Watched maybe a handful of videos during his campaign time. But I really didn't even know what he stood for honestly. I just watched him and could tell he was just being honest and I liked him. If somebody asked why I liked him, I honestly couldn't tell them a reason besides I just do. If it struck me that I could write in Ron Paul at the time, I would have voted. But I was still under the apathetic illusion that there were just 2 choices and it didn't matter.

In 2010, when I saw Ron Paul might be trying for it again, I started to pull things up of him on YouTube. And I just started to really research his platform. And the rest was history. By the 2011 primaries, I was as well versed on the philosophy of Liberty as any other hardcore Paul supporter. And participated in the election process for the first time ever, by casting a vote for Ron Paul in the Illinois primaries.

Looking back now at 24 years old, it's pretty crazy how passionate I've become. I literally did not care what happened in the political arena. I was one just leave me alone and let me do what I'm doing. Just like many others, Ron Paul cured my apathy.

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Not only was I liberal

I was a straight up hippie. I lived on a commune for a while, I traveled around doing non profit work, I made jewelry from hemp, and I thought money was the root of all evil. Here I am though.

Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That'll teach you to keep your mouth shut. Hemingway

Checking In

Yeah my wife and I voted for Obama in 2008. I was a pretty solid Democratic voter until he auto penned the Patriot Act and has endorsed by association every major Bush policy I was against.

2012, my wife and I both voted for Gary Johnson. Thanks Barry, you turned me into a Libertarian and freed my mind!

For the majority of my life I

For the majority of my life I never really cared about politics but I always considered myself to be a Democrat. Like every other clueless person out there, I just thought that Democrats cared more about people than Republicans...

Anyway, I voted for Al Gore in 2000, and then I wanted to end the wars so I voted for John Kerry in 2004.

Then I came across some 9/11 conspiracy videos online (Loose Change and Alex Jones) and I was horrified. My trust of government disappeared and I went on a spiritual journey that consisted of hours and hours of videos and articles online.

Aaron Russo's "Freedom to Fascism" really shook me up.

Then in 2007 my brother sent me a short YouTube video of Ron Paul and I was instantly hooked. I spent months watching Ron Paul videos, reading his books and reading books about Austrian economics. It was painful to discover that almost everything I knew was wrong but it also felt so good when everything started to make sense.

I registered Republican in 2008 to vote for Ron Paul. Went to MN to his Rally For the Republic. Ran for delegate (but lost). Held signs up on roads and passed out literature.

Fast forward today, I'm a voluntarist/libertarian/anarcho-capitalist (whatever you want to call it)and I know there's no way of turning back. I voted for Ron Paul in the GOP nomination but I didn't vote in the general election... I'm done with politics and done with playing along with their artificial systems.

Once you know the message, you can't revert back to your old ways of thinking... It's just not possible.

Your Post Brings Up An Important Point

It was 9/11 that "woke you up". I've posted before that if there were a single "silver bullet" that could wake up the population would be if a 9/11 cover-up were exposed (sort of a "liberty Pearl Harbor" event in our "Project For An Old-School American Century"). Mind you, I'm not an architect or engineer so I can't say for certain whether those theories prove a cover-up and/or conspiracy but I do know that I would definitely be in favor of a new (independent) investigation.

Aye

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I was a liberal by family

influence mostly. I was always fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Never really knew of libertarianism or much about it as I feel I was still duped into the system. I knew everything was mucked up, but I would always vote for whomever promoted peace the most because that was most critical to me...this is what drew me to Dr. Paul. Once I listened to his entire message in appeal for peace, responsible govt, and individual liberty...all the pieces fell into place.

Somewhat liberal here!

liberal here on social issues. and on the wars

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I still think of myself as a liberal

The thing that drew me to Dr. Paul was his stance against the Federal Reserve. Overall I still support a great many liberal ideas, but in the US today it doesn't matter whether one would prefer liberal or conservative ideas. Both wings of the Republicrat party are owned by the same criminals. To me Dr. Paul represents the concept of taking our nation back from criminal technocrats and returning it to the people. If the will of the people is conservative, so be it. If it's liberal, so be it... the problem is that we don't know what the will of the people really is. We only know what the criminal media/government claim it is.

Dr Paul helped to wake me up to the fact that the whole game is rigged. The 2-party system doesn't actually represent "liberal" and "conservative" values anyway. Liberals don't support wars, Democrats do. Conservatives don't support wars, Republicans do. Conservatives don't hate different religions, Republicans do. Liberals don't hate Christianity, Democrats do... and these "parties" aren't loyal to their constituency, but to their big donors... and those donors are the same on both sides of the aisle.

At their inceptions, the #Liberty, #OccupyWallStreet and #TeaParty movements all had the same basic goal... What happened?

Liberal too!

I was once a liberal too. Both my parents are leftists so I guess it came pretty natural growing up in that environment. My dad is very libertarian on social issues though and I have always been as well. It wasn't until I started to learn economics that I went "hey - wait a minute, I'm being ripped off here!" and became conservative on economic issues.

I read up more and udnerstood the link between economic and personal freedom which I before thought of as two completely separate things. One which needed to be regulated by government and the other should be free.

Since then my distrust with government has only grown and now I can't even understand how I could once think that about government the way I did. It almost feels like I'm a different person.

Yes...

When I was growing up in the 1950s my academic parents were Stevenson Democrats, so I was a hereditary "heart in the right place" mild left-liberal. I turned 21 in 1964, and, wanting to be a "responsible citizen" I took the trouble to read Goldwater's book The Conscience of a Conservative, which I found made a lot of sense... but between my conditioning and the Democrats' slimy propaganda painting Goldwater as a rabid warmonger (and it's true his foreign policy was hardly peace-oriented) I was convinced to vote for the "peace candidate" Johnson.

Four years later I had to flee into what I expected to be permanent exile in Canada to escape Johnson's war. That was something of a wake-up call, but by then I'd been "waking up" in a lot of directions. Took my first LSD in 1966, and thereafter became a full-fledged hippie, convinced the New Age (not the NWO) was just around the corner. Wrote back to my draft board in NYC from Montreal, pointing out that my ancestors had helped found the USA (my 4x great-grandfather served with Washington at Valley Forge, Germantown, etc.) and I didn't think they were in a position to tell me what being an American was about. (In fact, each of my direct male ancestors fought in the war of his time: 1812, Mexico, "Civil", WWI, and my father in WWII; I was the first generation to decline—with my father's blessing.)

My draft board apparently decided I was too nuts to bother with, and subtly let me know; I was never actually called for "service", so unlike my exiled friends (including musician Jesse Winchester, who spent many more years in Montreal), I was able to return to the US the following year. I ended up involved in commercial activities in the Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco, and continued to vote least-of-evils Democrat in 1968 and 72.

In the latter year I took a major turn toward a decade of serious Buddhist study and practice at the San Francisco Zen Center. My politics continued toward the left: voted Peace & Freedom in 1976 (a party of Marxist Lesbians in San Francisco who, I now understand, know nothing at all about either Peace or Freedom), then Barry Commoner's Citizens Party (who at least seemed to have some intelligence, an analysis and a plan—though still very statist) in 1980.

Then in 1981, more or less by accident (?), I encountered the work of Irwin Schiff, and experienced a double epiphany: not only did I begin to learn that I'd been lied to about practically everything, but I also realized that what I'd been espousing and supporting socially/politically, i.e. leftist kumbaya collectivism, was totally incongruous with what I'd been doing in the meditation hall—which was, after all, the most important thing in my life.

It's a great (and sad) irony that nearly everyone in the American Buddhist community holds to a mushy left-liberal-collectivist view of social and political issues (they all just love Obama, so far as I can tell); but, while it's true that Buddhism is mostly practiced in community, the core of the teaching is absolutely and uncompromisingly individual: you and you alone are responsible for your karma, and only you can do what must be done about it. Not only no Savior gonna save yo' ass, but neither can the State, especially because nothing the State can do to "improve" things can be done without violating the Precepts (the Buddhist rules of conduct: do not lie, do not steal, do not kill, etc.). I seem to be just about the only libertarian Buddhist around, as well as the only Buddhist libertarian, despite the perfect fit I see between the two.

"Governments and royal rule, Ananda, are nuisances like robbers, pestilence, famine, mosquitoes, gnats, and so forth. It is a wise man indeed who has learned to endure them with fortitude." - Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha (ca. 500 BCE)

So I discovered libertarianism and the LP, and joined, and voted Libertarian in the next two elections. I noted that none of my concerns—peace, social justice, the environment, etc.—had changed in the slightest; I'd just come to understand that force is not the way to effect real change for good.

I also heard about Ron Paul in 1981, at a "Patriots" convention in Marin County, and was inspired enough to send him some money; he is in fact the only "politician" to whom I've sent money in my life, now and then through the 90s and again in 2007. In 1988 of course I voted for him, and had the pleasure of meeting him when he visited my town.

Chronic illness from the early 90s to the present has much reduced my activity, but when I learned of the sudden groundswell of interest in Dr Paul after his first "debate" appearance in 2007 I looked into the situation, and became excited enough to spend a lot of time online (including a bunch of posts on this forum) and contribute money I couldn't afford to the various "money bomb" efforts.

Meanwhile, the very liberal Western state capital city where I live, with a large population of former (and still) hippies, went gaga for Obama, which really disgusted me: Has my generation learned nothing in the last forty years? Then the New Hampshire primary showed that the support for Dr Paul, while certainly vociferous, was still too thin to make any real difference, and, exhausted, I returned to dealing with my own troubles. (I had considered registering Republican to vote in the primary—and for the shock value when family and friends heard about it—but by then it seemed pointless, and I prefer to stay off lists.)

This time I've watched the news, enjoyed seeing a few more people wake up (unfortunately not including Dr Paul's own son, who for some reason doesn't seem to "get it" at all), but in the end have not been surprised by the course of events. The world just isn't ready for someone like Ron Paul. Perhaps it will never be. Maybe that's just not what it's all about. Having met him in person, I know he's an unusual sort of being, a man "in this world, but not of this world". In the end, that may be what he really has to teach us.

As for the future, I can see the possibility of change of course, but it's not a very big one, so far as I can tell. Ironically it was the late Aaron Russo (may he rest in peace) who gave me the perfect quote on the subject, from one of his publicity posters for his classic film America: Freedom to Fascism, from GB Shaw: "Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." Until that fact changes, I expect humanity will just keep going around in the same circles.

Still, I don't mean to be discouraging. Perhaps you young folks can accomplish something. And whatever the outcome, in this defiled, insane world, encountering Ron Paul can be a profoundly transforming experience for your own life at least. As many have pointed out, freedom is found first in your own heart and mind. And when you've found it there, you have it, whatever else may happen.

Thanks for sharing that.

" Having met him in person, I know he's an unusual sort of being, a man "in this world, but not of this world". In the end, that may be what he really has to teach us."
That is the lesson I feel I learned - and it inspires me to go ahead and start on the new world. Our new world, not the NWO. Eden is still here, she just needs her gardeners back.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Great story!

That was a pleasure to read.

In the past I definitely had

In the past I definitely had only left hand.

Happily with RP's help I found out that I also have a right hand.

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I voted for Obama in 2008

I cared about ending the wars and global warming. Obama did nothing for either.

Listening to NPR, Freakenomics and Marketplace while lifeguarding at an inner city YMCA through grad school turned me into a Libertarian. I realized that the government might not even want to solve major problems because if they did we wouldn't need them. The freemarket dealt with global warning much faster than the government. And it's the government that's stopping the real solution, GE's 4th gen nuclear reactors.

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Nuclear or Tesla?

"And it's the government that's stopping the real solution, GE's 4th gen nuclear reactors."

Not to mention Tesla's numerous buried inventions, some of which are being used in Alaska.

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I was a liberal

In 2004 I voted for Bush, being raised Republican. Shortly afterwards I realized that I had a big gap with the right on immigration. Having been a Mormon missionary to Spanish speakers in Houston, I was very annoyed by the xenophobia of the Republican party. Then I started to have my doubts about the foreign policy. Then I started to be sympathetic to the legalize marijuana crowd (pot smoking wasn't a problem at Brigham Young University, but it was philosophical issue for me). Having decided I wasn't Republican, I concluded I must be Democrat. I had some Democrat friends (somewhat rare at BYU) and liked the anti-authoritarian vibe being a Democrat in a Red State gave me. Then I got a job moved out to Portland, Oregon with my wife and actually met Democrats and became annoyed with them. The presidential debates started and I figured as a Democrat I was supposed to like Barack Obama. Then there was this crazy guy in the debates talking about the gold standard and the constitution. My wife wanted to read the constitution remarking she wasn't really sure what it said. So we pulled it out and read it out loud together and discussed it. We realized Ron was right about the constitution, but more importantly I really started to think he message was right not because it agreed with the founders but because it was just right. I agonized having to pick in 2008. I didn't like either. I watched some Ron videos online and realized, I had been a libertarian all along. I wrote in Ron Paul in 2008. There is no going back. I often tell my friends, you see Democrats and Republicans are born and raised, Libertarians are converts.

Been "libertarian" since 1986 but....yeah kinda still am

In 1986 "libertarians" were either an insular group of enfranchised persons or simply an idea. The ideas were promulgated at 5 start hotel luncheons or on ratty little Xeroxed tracts that got passed around until they were greasy and tattered little transmitters of the common cold.

If you wanted to take an active stand on the streets you were probably dealing with progressives. Not just "liberals" but hard core leftists.

So I've lived in commune and participated in the "consensus system of de-centralized authority" and know what? I LOVED IT. I loved the organic foods, I loved the all night guitar and drum sessions and like many of us wingnut men I have a soft spot for nearly naked and barefoot hippy chicks.

So I guess I consider myself part liberal. That's not a stain on my shirt, it's a tie-dye.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Other than scripture, this is the most encouraging DP post

ever!! It's so wonderful to read comment after comment telling how they woke up--Makes me want to go out and tell MORE! Thankyou!

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Yes, another one here

Converted to Liberty - never going back.

massachusetts democrat

I was never into politics, and living in Mass I just assumed I should register as a D. Was always fiscally responsible and always for legalizing drugs, and always want to know why we have to pay taxes on EVERYTHING, and ask the government for permission to do ANYTHING. Then I saw Ron Paul.

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I used to be a liberal.

Mostly because I was very anti-war. When I saw RP in the 2007 debates I was stunned to see someone so outspoken against war. So I did more research and fell down the rabbit hole and now I agree with RP's platform 100%.

Yup. Ron Paul is more

Yup. Ron Paul is more anti-war than any democrat in Washington D.C. except possibly Dennis Kucinich. Obama has shown that a left wing Democrat can be happy with war abroad and with a growing police state at home, so long as he's in charge of it.

I was more or less a reactionary Socialist

until 2007. I didn't see the difference between "greater good" rhetoric and a political philosophy that actually ensured the greater good for the greatest number. Found Dr. Paul in '07 (thanks to some liberty activists) and have been on an escalator to free market anarchy ever since.

Imagine a Libertarian Party

Comprised of Libertarians and Libertarian Leaning Democrats and Republicans focused on issues that we all agree on.

Abortion, Gay Marriage, drug decriminalization are all important issues to discuss, however they do not need to be solved completely before Sound Money, the end to Arbitrary Wars, and Decentralized Planning are instituted.

In fact, the latter missions will make the former easier to address.

Let's set ourselves up for Success rather than concentrating our efforts on differences.

I want to vote it up a million more!

Yep! Hear, hear! What he said!
Lets pick our "trifecta" and kick some a$$ - we can resume quarreling about the other stuff later.
AGREE TO DISAGREE - we need a heapin' helpin' of that around here.

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I want to vote this up a million times

Seriously, like I said, I want to vote this up a million times! This is what I have also been trying to say!

Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That'll teach you to keep your mouth shut. Hemingway

I must have been out of my mind

I was completely brainwashed and it wasn't until 5 years ago

I've undergone a transition from a completely asleep sheeple to a wide awake patriot. Good thing I took a lot of history classes in school and had some sort of foundation or I may have never woken up.

In 1992 and 1996 I voted for Clinton
In 2000 I voted for Gore
In 2004 I voted for Kerry
In 2008 primary I voted for Hillary
In 2008 general I voted for McCain

I'm not proud of this voting history. They were and are all criminals. I was operating under the "lesser of two Evils" brainwashed reasoning. Bush Daddy and Bush Jr are sadistic evil men that's true but a willing puppet soullessly destroying America really is no better.

When Obama was running the first time, I did finally see the bias in the Media that everyone had been talking about. So inadvertently, the difference between what the media reported vs what my own two eyes observed I began my awakening. When I saw that Zbigniew Brzezinski had endorsed Obama, I went and looked up info on Brzeniski. And then, I ran across a we are change video.... I think that's who it was.... It was just a guy with a camera at a Zbigniew Brzezinski speech in NYC and later having to run for it to keep his camera from being confiscated.

It became a snow ball effect. It didn't happen fast enough though because I still voted for that criminal McCain in 2008 election. It was shortly after the inauguration that I firmly found myself supporting Ron Paul and wishing I had wised up sooner.

My Husband and my sister woke up just like I did. Once awake though you can never go back to sleep. I just don't think it's humanly possible.

My first real vote of my life and the only one I'm proud of is this year when I voted for Ron Paul.

I was ALWAYS a liberal.

I just didn't know I was a Classical Liberal until Dr Ron Paul.