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The Rand Paul Evolution: Rand Paul calls for 'path to citizenship' for illegals

Politico: Rand Paul calls for 'path to citizenship' for illegals: Call it the Rand Paul Evolution. He’ll push to loosen marijuana penalties, legalize undocumented immigrants and pursue a less aggressive American foreign policy.

In an interview with POLITICO, Paul said he’ll return to Congress this week pushing measures long avoided by his party. He wants to work with liberal Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy and Republicans to eliminate mandatory minimum sentences for pot possession. He wants to carve a compromise immigration plan with an “eventual path” to citizenship for illegal immigrants, a proposal he believes could be palatable to conservatives. And he believes his ideas — along with pushing for less U.S. military intervention in conflicts overseas — could help the GOP broaden its tent and appeal to crucial voting blocs that handed Democrats big wins in the West Coast, the Northeast and along the Great Lakes.

“We have three big regions where we’re not competitive,” Paul said. “And we have to be competitive in those regions.”

Paul, 49, was elected on the tea party wave that fueled GOP landslide victories in 2010, often declaring on the campaign trail that he had a “message” from the tea party: “We have come to take our government back.”

But two years later, the tea party agenda has stalled in Congress, and House Republicans who ran on that purity platform in 2010 began to tout bipartisan compromises with Democrats in 2012. Nationally, the GOP recognizes it has a demographic problem from New England to the Southwest it needs to correct ahead of the 2014 midterm elections and the next White House race in 2016.

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Sad.

The voting data is already out there--working class whites (making under $50K) did not show up to the polls.) These are the folks who suffer the most direct pressure not just on wages, but changes to the neighborhood.

In the county I live in, we lost a State Senator thanks to Clinton's Imperial war in Somalia. Imperialism and Immigration goes hand in hand.

Horrible politics from Rand Paul. To even suggest its a major issue--legalizing criminals--in the face of everything else is just silly.

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Get rid of the welfare state and income tax...

and problems associated with immigration will go away.

Immigration is good when society is made more productive as a result. It's government intervention that makes immigration a problem.

Government School included?

People keep suggesting that the correct response to illegal aliens is for one, doing away with welfare for illegals. Do u mean all welfare, including tax payer funded government schools?

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

And the drug prohibition

the third leg of the stool and what finances the human smuggling by the cartels.

Makes perfect sense.

If you bend over to take it in every orifice from the leftist republican party (and call it "playin' the game")... why not STAY bent over for the criminal illegal aliens (who are murdering, raping, child-molesting, home-invading, hit-n-running over THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS!)

http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

Sad

I suggest you read (or re-read) the "Collectivism" chapter of Liberty Defined at least five times, and then re-evaluate your bigoted comment.

Please pinpont...

the bigotry - keeping in mind we are talking about VERY, VERY, VERY ETHNOCENTRIC criminals.

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

And one very, very ethnocentric

Brother Winston Smith.

Are just the "criminals" ethnocentric, or the legal immigrants as well? Is it the culture, or just the criminality? If it's the culture, than you are complaining against the legal immigrants as well.

And "criminals." Why are they criminals? Are they violating anyone's rights? What if we legalized immigration, would they still be criminals?

War on Immigration = War on Drugs.

Legalize and you'll see the problems disappear.

For clarification...

PREGUNTA:
"Are just the "criminals" ethnocentric, or the legal immigrants as well?"
CONTESTAR:
A large portion of Hispanics here in America, generally speaking, are (A) VERY ethnocentric and separatist (LaRaza, MECHA, LULAC, Hispanic Chambers of Commerce, Hispanic radio, Hispanic periodicals, Spanish this, Spanish that, etc, etc) and (B) make up the bulk of illegal alien criminals (who are killing and raping countless Americans).

PREGUNTA:
"Is it the culture, or just the criminality?"
CONTESTAR:
Actually, the CULTURE of the illegal aliens IS MUCH, MUCH WORSE than the criminality (of illegal immigration). The CULTURE REJECTS American law, language and culture. The CULTURE has ABSOLUTELY NO LOYALTY to America.

PREGUNTA:
"And "criminals." Why are they criminals?"
CONTESTAR:
Obviously because they have broken into our national house, by smashing open a window (when the door was ALREADY OPEN and the welcome mat was out).

PREGUNTA:
"Are they violating anyone's rights?"
CONTESTAR:
Si. Property rights, national sovereignty, State sovereignty... just to start.

PREGUNTA:
"What if we legalized immigration, would they still be criminals?"
CONTESTAR:
Yes, and the politicians who "granted" them amnesty, too.

GIBBERISH:
"War on Immigration = War on Drugs. Legalize and you'll see the problems disappear"
TRUTH:
Illegal immigration negatively effects EVERY ASPECT OF AMERICAN LIFE!!!!!! From healthcare, employment, city budgets, State budgets, fed budgets, violent crime, housing, etc, etc.

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

Finally something I can join the Rand-bashers about....

I am anti-immigration. In that sense I am (unlike Ron Paul) an "isolationist". I have never had any real problem with Ron's stance on immigration because he continued to acknowledge that a sovereign nation has a right to control its borders and immigration. He also advocated policies (ending government benefits for illegals and anchor baby citizenship) which greatly worsen immigration problems.

But I am very disappointed that Rand is joining the Bush's, McCain, Karl Rove, and the rest of the "Invade the World/ Invite the World" neoconservatives in their quest to globalize the demographics of the American electorate, import 3rd world problems, flood our economy with cheap labor, and overwhelm our crumbling infrastructure and environment.

The fact that this is in harmony with Libertarian ideology does not make it any more palatable to me or to the millions of native born Americans we would like to recruit into our ranks.

Since I believe that encouraging immigration has been one of the highest and most consistent priorities of the NWO, I can't help but suspect that maybe, just maybe, Rand IS a sellout.

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I don't understand the hatred toward immigrants

These people have been instrumental in keeping the US economy running. All hatred should be geared at the government for offering them entitlements. It's not their fault your government sucks and loots you to give them benefits. It's not their fault that the economy is so screwed up by unions, minimum wage laws, regulations, and taxes that only they can come in and make things somewhat function.

The so-called Christians hating on them are the worst. Whatever happened to loving thy neighbor?

Love thy neighbor. Hate the government.

Oooops...

LIE:
"These people have been instrumental in keeping the US economy running."
TRUTH:
These CRIMINALS have been stealing MILLIONS OF JOBS from Americans during 20+% unemployment.

LIE:
"It's not their fault your government sucks and loots you to give them benefits."
TRUTH:
IT IS JUST AS MUCH THEIR FAULT FOR BREAKING INTO OUR NATIONAL HOUSE!

IRRELEVANT:
"It's not their fault that the economy is so screwed up by unions, minimum wage laws, regulations, and taxes that only they can come in and make things somewhat function."
RELEVANT:
These CRIMINALS ARE HERE ILLEGALLY.

LIE:
"The so-called Christians hating on them are the worst."
TRUTH:
Many of the CRIMINALS are Christian. American Christians are NOT "hating," BUT DEMANDING AMERICAN LAWS BE ENFORCED!!!!!!!!

CORRECT:
"Whatever happened to loving thy neighbor?"
TRUTH:
Yes, whatever happened to that? Why do our ETHNOCENTRIC CRIMINAL NEIGHBORS BREAK INTO OUT COUNTRY, STEAL JOBS, PILFER "BENEFITS," AND KILL/RAPE/RUN OVER MANY AMERICANS?

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

overly-dramatic

Nobodies stealing jobs. A native speaker could easily outmatch someone whoe doesnt speak english if only they swallowed pride anf worked hard

Its not their fault... ron and i agree take away yhe incentive

Do you pick oranges? Then you have a reasonable complaint.

Kill/rape/run over? Wtf? Where did that come from

As his wise father has said many times.

If you subsidize or reward something, you get more of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJFcSF80dE#t=2m20s

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Ron Paul has also said the problem is the welfare state...

...not the immigrants.

"It's important to note that the greatest resentment [regarding immigration] comes from government-mandated free services and a government created unemployment crisis. Fix these two problems and finding a scapegoat for our economic crisis wouldn't be necessary.

A free and prosperous economy always looks for labor; immigrant workers would be needed and welcomed. This need could be managed by a generous guest worker program, not by illegal immigrants receiving benefits for the family and securing an easy route to permanent citizenship and thus becoming pawns of partisan political interests...

Stop all federal mandates on the states to provide free education and medical care for illegal immigrants."
Ron Paul, Liberty Defined: 50 Essential Issues That Affect Our Freedoms, 2011

"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." - Ronald Reagan

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He did and I agree.

He addresses that subject in the video I linked to Above.

did I miss something?

"In an interview with POLITICO, Paul said he’ll return to Congress this week pushing measures long avoided by his party."

I thought it was Senator Rand Paul...

House + Senate = Congress

thank you

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END CAFTA!, END NAFTA!

When discussing immigration cafta & nafta has to be part of the discussion

someone has to take leadership....

of the GOP, if it is to remain competitive. I've been hard-set against open borders and rampant illegal immigration for years, but if Rand can help define a path to citizenship without perpetuating open borders, I'll support him.

Rand is trying to reason with the American people and bring them to our positions in an incremental fashion. We want hispanic-Americans to yearn for freedom in the same way we do- no? I'll be watching Rand- keep up the good work!

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"Terrorism is the war of the poor, while war is the terrorism of

Rand is smart.

As we all just witnessed, you can no longer get elected without the so-called "minority" vote. Because, the minority is becoming the majority.

Ron Paul himself has stated on numerous occasions, that the only reason people have a problem with the illegals is because the economy stinks. If the economy was booming, people wouldn't think twice about the illegal aliens.

Rand is going to run in 2016, and if any of you have a better candidate in mind, let me know, because I can't think of a better man to carry on the message of freedom and liberty.

A person has to get elected

A person has to get elected in order to affect change. Rand has figured this out. I believe it's all part of a master plan that Ron and Rand have worked out to try and save the country.

Yeah, just like the "secret"

embedded Paul delegates that infiltrated Romney's camp to change their vote at the convention.

I believe Ron is going to do what he's always done, speak truth to power, Educate, stay the course; at the same time letting Rand be his own man, make his own mistakes...which he's making plenty of.

you could be right. It just

you could be right. It just seems unlikely that Ron and Rand never talk about political strategies. Of course they may not always agree

he doe not inspire

he will never get the youth enthused like they are for his dad. he's way too much of a politician who plays along to get along. i like some of his voting, but that's not enough. he comes off as kinda smug, and well, boring. gary johnson or the judge are far better choices, but i'm hoping to see a vibrant 80 year ron paul in 2016 at the helm of a revolution that hasn't been seen since the first one.

Ron Paul 2016

Gary Johnson or the judge veep.

Rand can earn some respect back by campaigning for his dad, but if he is the choice for liberty 2016, then it's game over big time IMO.

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You like his voting, but that isn't enough? Seriously???

Senators only have two jobs...write legislation and vote on it. Rand Paul has introduced more pro-Liberty legislation in the Senate than anyone alive and has the best pro-Liberty voting record, too.

So...perhaps you could stop sawing off your nose to spite your face??

"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." - Ronald Reagan

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If true, Rand Paul just lost my backing

Done - no amnesty Rand, how about a path to the back of the line.

I hope Rand presses for

I hope Rand presses for amnesty. We like to talk a lot about the vision of the founders but forget that they lived in a society that had virtually no immigration laws. Indeed, until the Chinese exclusion act, we had virtually open borders. Until the 1920s, non-Chinese immigrants could easily immigrate to this country. They didn't have to get "back of the line" because there was no line!!!

By The Term...

..."Possible path to citizenship" I think he means let the states decide. At least I hope so.

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