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Pat Buchanan: Is the GOP Headed for the Boneyard?

By Patrick J. Buchanan | Buchanan.org

After its second defeat at the hands of Barack Obama, under whom unemployment has never been lower than the day George W. Bush left office, the Republican Party has at last awakened to its existential crisis.

Eighteen states have voted Democratic in six straight elections. Among the six are four of our most populous: New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois and California. And Obama has now won two of the three remaining mega-states, Ohio and Florida, twice.

Only Texas remains secure—for now.

At the presidential level, the Republican Party is at death’s door.

Yet one already sees the same physicians writing prescriptions for the same drugs that have been killing the GOP since W’s dad got the smallest share of the vote by a Republican candidate since William Howard Taft in 1912.

In ascertaining the cause of the GOP’s critical condition, let us use Occam’s razor—the principle that the simplest explanation is often the right one.

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Pat Buchanan is a Paleoconservative

He might not be on the same spectrum of libertarianism as Ron Paul, but he is certainly not an enemy of the cause. I would say he falls close enough to be considered a Taft/Goldwater/Reagan Republican hybrid.

He stands on our side against the faux-cons ...

While I'm not a huge fan of

While I'm not a huge fan of Pat, the comments here are downright backwards. He is no Neocon, was one of the loudest anti-war voices regarding Iraq, has always advocated small government, subsidiarity, etc. He supported Ron Paul when others in the party were turning against him, and did so at his great political peril.

With all of these facts easily verifiable, there are numerous disparaging replies attacking Pat as a neocon and worse. It's saddening that a movement that prides itself in getting its facts straight and doing legitimate research stoops to such a low standard of integrity.

Again, I'm no apologist for Buchanan, but he and Paul agree on far more than they disagree. Of course, he can't be as vocal as he'd like to be on MSNBC etc. or he would have no voice in television, but if you read his publications you will see that his compass is oriented very similarly to the liberty movement's.

After everything you said how

After everything you said how can you NOT be a fan of Pat? I think is a straight shooter. Is he a carbon copy of the good DR.? No, but, who is.

Live Free or Die Trying

Who cares?

As if the demise of a Central Planning, monopoly loving, organization is some sort of bad thing.

I will no longer give my money or consent to a group that has shown time and time again that they will neither be responsible with my money or consent. They assume that since they are the Lesser of Centralized Fiscal Evil, that I have to put up with their Greater of Centralized Social Evil.

The opposite holds true for Libertarian Leaning Democrats. They favor the Lesser of Centralized Social Evil, and promote the Greater of Centralized Fiscal Evil.

When one looks at the system objectively it is easy to tell that the Common Denominator of Evil is Centralized Planning. The Two Party System has it made, no matter who you support, it will be the OTHER Party who took your Fiscal or Social Freedom while YOUR party is fighting desperately to fight it, yet always ultimately defenseless to block it.

Political Markets MUST have competition in order to be considered Free.

Where do all these big government proponents live?

It looks like they live in big cities. Where the population is most dense, Obama did the best.

http://uxblog.idvsolutions.com/2012/11/election-2012.html

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

well, I liked this part

"At the presidential level, the Republican Party is at death’s door."

The Constitution

Why not just hold Pat and ourselves to the rule of law?

Why bicker.

We had a new member join our local movie group several weeks ago. He asked why anyone would argue the Chem Trail debate. He just presented the sites of the government funding for geo engineering.

I reached the same conclusion about debating 911 years ago. The facts are there. Engineers for 911 truth etc.

Politics are making this way more complex by design.

Its more about YOU than it is about them.

There is not room for Political Parties

under a Rule of Law. Rules/Laws are either Objective and apply to everyone, or they are Arbitrary and the Rule of Law ceases to exist.

poor Pat still doesn't get it

I salute him for being consistently antiwar, but his economics are silly mercantilist protectionism from the 18th century. He doesn't understand the law of comparative advantage. Labor is cheaper in China and India and everyone benefits if unskilled labor is outsourced. Yes, the workers whose jobs were outsourced lose their jobs, but for the large majority that includes everyone else, it's a win.

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

I'm not sure when the term

I'm not sure when the term "protectionist" became a dirty word. It used to be obvious that we wanted to "protect" American jobs. I think Sean Hanity was the first person my dad and I heard use it as a derogatory term; it's strange to hear liberty minded individuals agree with Hanity but, whatever, anyway.
The first bill that George Washington signed into law was the The tariff act of 1789 (I think that's what it was called) and it's purpose was to protect American jobs from foreign countries that paid far cheaper wages and undermine the American Companies. Yes, we get cheaper products when they are made in China or Vietnam or wherever but, as my dad used to say, "what good is a cheap VCR if you don't have a job". I love Pat. It was the way the GOP treated him in '96 that woke me up to sham of the neo-con movement. If Pat is a neo-con, why didn't the party support him in '96? But instead the party as a whole turned on him like a poison snake; led by the likes of John McCain, Bill Kristol and Jack Kemp. I think Buchanan is one of us and I'd vote for him again if I got the chance.

Live Free or Die Trying

may I make a recommendation?

read Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

I'm fairly versed in

I'm fairly versed in economics but I'm also fairly opened minded; I just added it to my read list. Thanks

Live Free or Die Trying

If a certain factory moves to China,

that frees up the workers in that industry to work somewhere else. China can't manufacture everything, plus, they've got to spend all the money we're paying them for their widgets on something. Ordinarily, they would spend it on American exports. However, because of our debt problem, China is instead using most of that money to buy up our debt. In a low-debt country, free trade isn't much of a problem because most countries are going to be able to produce something at home better than foreigners abroad. But, there's other things to consider. Our corporate tax is the second highest in the world and the federal government has been running Internet ad campaigns targeted at people in middle income countries, trying to recruit them to come work here in manufacturing (for lower wages obviously). Why in the world I have no idea, but, it has worked because legal immigration shot up in2008, 2009, and 2010. I don't think tariffs are the answer because history shows that other countries will just retaliate with tariffs of their own which would end up costing American jobs anyway.

We seem to have about 23

We seem to have about 23 million+ "freed up workers". hahahaha I'm not sure if China can manufacture everything or not, we'll just have to wait another 20yrs and see I guess.

Live Free or Die Trying

Free trade in theory, cronyism in practice

We don't have free trade here, we have regulated trade with a fiat currency. Without the fiat currency we would not be able to run the huge trade deficits and without out the taxes & regulations we would be more competitive. We handicap business here with, taxes, environmental regulations, minimum wage laws, worker safety regulations, product liability suits, health care, collective bargaining, copyright and patent laws, etc. We simply need to referee a level playing field with our trading partners, Ross Perot summed it up by saying "we will give you the same deal you gave us". Big business loves the handicap, it restricts competition from the small and medium sized businesses that don't have the means to foreign manufacture or to buy political advantages. It frees them from the myriad of costly regulations here whether they are justified or not. Its easier to win if they can cheat the game.

With the increasing economic

With the increasing economic inequality in this country since the 70s I don't see how this has been a win for most people. It's been a win for a powerful minority of elites.

I agree, but, I'm not really sure what the solution

is. Do you support tariffs as a means to keep manufacturing jobs here?

I would eliminate corporate

I would eliminate corporate income taxes for any company that manufactures it's products in America...not "assembled in America" MANUFACTURED here. Companies would flock back to America.

Live Free or Die Trying

ONLY if the GOP insists on giving us prowar NeoCons like Romney.

Then bone yard it is.

Under the GOP's current leadership,

that's all their going to give us. The only way to change that is for us to give them wo we want for president and force them to accept him/her the way they expected everyone to accept Romney.

You have to understand about Pat...

... He is wondering if the GOP is headed his way! He has been dwelling in the bone yard for decades already.

As evidenced by his statement: "...the Republican Party has at last awakened to its existential crisis."

Complete disinformation! Awakened? They are licking their chops to take a bit out of the same mess of pottage!

How typical of a neocon to try and out-con good constitutionalists such as the grassroots. The only people he is conning are the nearly brain-dead majority of the GOP, not to mention the DNC, who sent nearly everyone of their 'con-men incumbents' back to their mud hole in D.C.

It isn't the race for the presidency which demonstrated a slight mistake in judgement... it is the return of the incumbent D.C. crowd of corrupt globalist oath-breakers which so eloquently demonstrates the GOP blind-men and zombie DNA!

Enough of Pat already. When he shouts 'Ron Paul 2016' and shows up at his 2016 caucus to vote freedom, then I might give him a minute!

Ron Paul 2016... Get use to it Pat! It's coming to a caucus near you!

Pat Buchanan's American

Pat Buchanan's American Conservative magazine endorsed Paul in 2008. I'm not sure what the magazine did this time around. Pat Buchanan has been against the Iraq war from the start and is marginalized within his party because he is a paleocon, not a neocon.

Answer: Yes and it's because of Buchanan and people like him.

Neo-Con, hypocritical, big-government, pseudo-conservatives who think social issues are what are important.

But the rat-bastard politicians are not my moral compass.

Nor should they be anyone's. That is for churches, families, spiritual leaders etc.

By legislating morality and influencing behavior through tax code, they hope we miss the real issues at hand; monetary policy, government involvement in free markets, flawed foreign policy, giving away billions in U.S. foreign aid, giving etc.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Buchanan's A NeoCon?

Since when did Buchanan become a neocon? He started a magazine, The American Conservative, to protest the Iraq War, and has written numerous books against an interventionist foreign policy. And though he may be socially conservative, he has argued that the state shouldn't get involved in our private lives.

Sample quotes from his books

"The neoconservatives are not really conservatives at all. They are impostors and opportunists."

"We are not hated for who we are. We are hated for what we do. It is not our principles that have spawned pandemic hatred of America in the Islamic world. It is our policies."

"The Bush Doctrine is a prescription for permanent war for permanent peace, though wars are the death of republics."

YES, they are...

and I fear they have FORCED A NATION along for their ride.

F the R's!

The Constitution Party.
The Libertarian Party.
State nullification.
NOW!!!!!!!

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

1 party down the drain

That's a start. It should either become the liberty party or be destroyed. Let the neocons scurry back to the dem party where they came from or start a new weakling third party with Herman Cain.

Before Glenn Beck, Buchanan was the controlled opposition.

Buchanan is nothing more than a mainstream media puppet.

How do you think Buchanan kept his job on CNN all of those years.

Buchanan will promote 3rd parties (by way of saying the Republican Party is dead) as the solution knowing that they divide the Republican base while Democrats have no party divide and thus win over us with their minority.

Ignore Buchanan and come join the Republican Party like Ron Paul asked you to do.

Stop using Buchanan, Beck and other Koch Libertarian puppet masters to divide and conquer conservatives.

Notice how the media tries to put real libertarian conservatives into the ineffective minor 3rd Party box... this when we could be the majority of the Republican Party if we would simply abandon the 3rd Party nonsense and become active in the Republican Party.

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Buchanan and Ron Paul

Pat Buchanan is just commenting on the future of the party. And if he such a puppet then why did he come down to Texas to campaign for Ron Paul in the 1990s when Gingrich turned all the big names against him in the state?

Good stuff.

Conservatives need to wake up. Producing more Democratic voters (third world immigrants) and making free trade agreements with South America like Romney wanted isn't going to do anything but bury the GOP. I'm all for free trade but, NAFTA and related trade agreements don't benefit this country in the least.

Actually...

ILLEGAL third world immigrants.

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.