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Interested in Politics, Rock and Roll, the 60's Counter-Culture/Peace Movement, etc. ? Extremely Interesting Info for YOU!

I cannot commend highly enough, to all here at the DP, that you read the very well researched and relevant information about an important time in our nations history at the link below. I doubt that anyone here is already familiar with even a small fraction of what is covered.

This site discusses the links between a large number of the leading Rock Stars of the 1960's, that had the most influence on the birth/direction of the "Hippies" and Military Intelligence(and prominent US families).

Please take a look and comment. I am very well informed but this is completely new for me.

Here is a taste. Sound Familiar?

"I should probably mention here that, contrary to popular opinion, the ‘hippie’/’flower child’ movement was not synonymous with the anti-war movement. As time passed, there was, to be sure, a fair amount of overlap between the two ‘movements.’ And the mass media outlets, as is their wont, did their very best to portray the flower-power generation as the torch-bearers of the anti-war movement – because, after all, a ragtag band of unwashed, drug-fueled long-hairs sporting flowers and peace symbols was far easier to marginalize than, say, a bunch of respected college professors and their concerned students. The reality, however, is that the anti-war movement was already well underway before the first aspiring ‘hippie’ arrived in Laurel Canyon. The first Vietnam War ‘teach-in’ was held on the campus of the University of Michigan in March of 1965. The first organized walk on Washington occurred just a few weeks later. Needless to say, there were no ‘hippies’ in attendance at either event. That ‘problem’ would soon be rectified. And the anti-war crowd – those who were serious about ending the bloodshed in Vietnam, anyway – would be none too appreciative."

Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html

P.S. I did a quick check on this guys credibility by checking his assertions about David Crosby of Byrds/C.S.N.; his assertions are spot on.

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Altamont

It's a fascinating read, but I have an issue with his coverage of Altamont. I have the Criterion issue of 'Gimme Shelter', and unless the footage was doctored, a gun (or something that looks just like a gun) is visible in the victim's hand. The author of this piece challenges the reader to try and pick out a gun from a couple of blurry stills, and concludes that not only was there no gun, but that this was a ritual murder. Hmmmm.

Yes. Hmm.

I didn't see the film, but maybe this clip is what you're referring to. At around 3:51, it's being shown to Mick Jagger, played in slo-mo. There is definitely something in Meredith Hunter's hand that looks like a gun. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=208_1226021428 But I don't know what the author is talking about, because it's visible in the still shot, too, the one he's (sarcastically?) labelled: "Right here, isn't it?" It *is* plainly highlighted against the light-colored vest. What he says is that "McLean characterizes the death of Hunter as a ritualized murder." But check out the guy in the clip at 1:48 (clenching his fists) whom the photographer focuses on for a good minute. After noticing that; then re-reading that verse of American Pie; and knowing that, really, the song that was playing at the time of the murder was Sympathy For The Devil, I couldn't help but think that maybe Don McClean was combining a few different images, including from the perspective of that seriously messed-up dude ~ with "Satan's spell" maybe as much referring to the guy's bad trip as anything else. In any event, I agree. The author's conclusions here don't seem to have any basis.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

I usually read the first few comments

before clicking on a link I'm not sure about. You guys have convinced me to check this out:) May be hard for me to follow since I was born in the 80's but I'll try.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

It's interesting and fascinating.

I have been fact checking and corroborating. I'd recommend reading it.

Good find and entertaining reading

I am not sure however what the conclusion is-that the rock hippies of laurel Canyon were all army brats and therefore they were some type of CIA operatives?

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i grew up in a military family

I don't find this hard to believe at all. I crossed paths with old friends at one base or another quite a few tinws as a child. Although I am skeptical, the report is fascinating.

Just read part one.. I didn't see a link to part two.

After reading the comments I'll BRB!!!

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

i had the same problem-the fix:

change the number in the link to the next higher number and click

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Easier just to go to the main page

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/

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yup...

found it and thx

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Wow,

thanks for the share - this is really interesting. I have to admit, it hurt reading about Zappa like that - like a knife in my heart.

Great read gmason! BUMP!

This is fascinating. Anyone

This is fascinating.

Anyone know much about the source?

I haven't began reading this, I'm going to, but

I first thought to see who this writer is.

From his Newsletter #67:

September 11, 2001 Revisited
Act I
September 15, 2004

3. It is impossible to reconcile the documented damage to the Pentagon with the notion that it was struck by a 757 passenger jet. Evidence instead indicates that it was either struck by a missile (and not one launched from a cave in Afghanistan), or taken out with explosives planted within the building.

Red flag. Use caution and fact check all this guy's evidence.

That was the first thing I read of his work. I'm being wary.

Edit: Thx for your down votes, lemmings.

Thanks for the worthy advice.

Agree: no need for those down votes. I don't happen to find anything particularly disconcerting in the paragraph you quoted. While I haven't looked into the damage aspect, there's enough credible witnesses whose testimony contradicts the official story of the flight path of the supposed jet that crashed (key given where exterior & interior damage occurred). But I found my own red flags. First, something the author wrote about Jesus, portrayed as a hoax. (Yeah, about the time I was enjoying Laurel Canyon-connected Linda Ronstadt's You're No Good, I read The Passover Plot, too.) Second, a book high on his recommended reading list that I found so offensive and so biased I threw it in the garbage. (If you saw my home, you'd know that I don't throw out too many books. P.S. It's now the text in some high schools.) Third, the (unnecessary) juxtaposition of (unnecessary) pics in Part 19 such that attempted to force you to see gruesome images (if you wished to read the text between them), which I found rather sick. This isn't a guy I'd wish to be friends with, his great stories and sense of humour notwithstanding.

Nonetheless, to the author's credit ~ for discerning readers, at least :) ~ I think he makes clear what is fact vs. supposition, facts easy to refute that could discredit him; and the facts do show many (too many) unusual and disturbing connections. Furthermore, those facts do seem to support some nefarious activities known to have occurred in later decades, if not to the present.

As one of the wittier of our founding fathers once said, "Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see." I'm sure the self-proclaimed "disinformation-free" commentator would agree, as also Laurel Canyon-connected Harry Houdini!

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

crap, really?

I mean, is nothing sacred?

What about the Eagles, Linda Ronstadt, Joni Mitchell?

If this is true, it IS stranger than fiction.

tilting@windbags

What a great find

Still reading as time permits.

I would expect many more people to be interested in this-

surprisingly not.

I cannot imagine anyone reading Part One and failing to be captivated by this tale of Rock and Roll, Military/Gov Intrigue, murder(of mostly well known celebrities), sex, drugs...

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Re Sex, military, Drugs, murder, and Rock & Roll...

Yes, I'm surprised, too. I see you posted it at 2am? That's likely part of it, especially since the "subject" for most comments doesn't mention the topic. Perhaps also, someone at the DP recently commented that a lot of people have left, that these days many here are kinda young. I r-e-a-l-l-y hate to say this, but maybe they're about as interested in the sixties/seventies, as back then I was in the twenties/thirties. " (W-a-a-h. Of course I was *very* young, then!) But really, with the number of DP users/visitors, I'd have expected a whole lot more checking it out. I think it's mostly that people just don't know it's here. And too bad. It ties in with certain (nefarious) activities of today. Well, I'm glad I convinced Walter (below) to at least just read the first two paragraphs of Part 1. Hah! I knew he wouldn't be able to stop there! :) I'm now up to Part 20. [Though I'm a bit angry at the author. I had trouble with 19, reading w/my hand over what I felt were unnecessary images I do NOT want in my brain.] Other than that, I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed this enlightening and entertaining--- this MIND-BLOWING article. Thanks. I've sent the link to half a dozen friends.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

hey now...

This geezer ain't going no where!

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Outstanding!

Thanks for sharing this, Gmason. I was pleased to read that the author not only correctly identified "The Summer of Love" as 1967, but also tied it into the Monterrey Pop Festival. I've read so many misinformed articles claiming Woodstock/1969 was "The Summer of Love"!

I do plan on doing further research as to the link between these musicians and their military families. (On a few occasions when I took someone's word for it and passed along information, I ended up being discredited because the information turned out to be false.)

I've only read Part I thus far, so the following may be precipitous:
If there were only a few links between musicians/military I'd say, "So what?" That whole period of time was about being anti-establishment. Simply put, Young America was tired of their parents' hypocrisy, tired of their parents only caring about money, their standing at the country club, etc. (As another song of that era so succinctly stated, "...hate your next door neighbor, but don't forget to say grace..."). Anyway, I am intrigued. Should the musician/military family links prove true, I'd say something else was definitely afoot.

Again, thank you!

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You are very welcome Habit4ming, my pleasure and glad you

like it-who would not?

Just sorry more are not taking a moment to examine this amazing story.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Wow! Just started Part II but decided to go back & re-read

Part I - I want to make sure I got it all! Thanks for the link.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

Kinda' sounds like

when the Neocons lump the Occupy and Liberty movements together.

Sex, drugs, rock & roll, and the military

No, it's not really the same as that. There actually is some overlap between the Occupy and Liberty movements, why you'd see "End the Fed" posters, for one, at rallies of both.

Really, I hope you'll check out the linked article.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Man, I'm gettin' bogged down

I've got about seventeen books to read just from the last few days of news! Phew, I'll get to it when I can.

duplicate

duplicate

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Trust me, it's worth it.

Really, if you were around in the 60's/early 70's, it's must reading. But, don't worry. It's nothing heavy. It's a riot! I don't mean read all 24 parts or so... just the one article that's linked. Okay, how about this. Just read the first two paragraphs. [Ha, ha. That's what I planned on doing. I couldn't stop.]

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Okay

I'll re-prioritize my reading list. Thx.

:)

:)

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

OH.....MY....GOD!!!!!

Can't stop reading... Brainy thing hurt... overload! Three down already but I can't stop. It's 10 pm and I have to work in the morning! Thank you for pressing me to read this, it's much more entertaining than the Federalist Papers.

Just finished the third part myself.

I made myself a bowl of popcorn to have with it. Really, it's like being at the movies. I can't remember the last time I was this entertained.

Edit: I'm now up to Part 17. Still amazed. When I'm through, I plan to check out some of the author's more recent writings. A search shows that he's looked into some of the issues raised in this article. Sorry if this caused you to fall behind in your work. :)

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir