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No initiation of force!

With all the states petitioning to secede, I hope this is a good time for this petition to spread and get support, it gets to point of the problem.

It needs 150 signatures to be publicly viewable on the open petition section of We the people, so be sure to share this URL:



No initiation of force.

We the people demand that no person, group of persons or government initiate force, threat of force or fraud against anyone’s life, liberty, property or contract.

Force is justified only in defense or retaliation against those who violate or threaten to violate another’s life, liberty, property or contract.

No exceptions exist.

This is not a new concept or integration, I first discovered this in 1996 from NeoTech Dicoveries written by Dr. Frank R. Wallace.

Your thoughts and support are appreaciated.

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We the people!

Is there really no interest in this approach?

The creation, production and fair exchange of values is the business of evolving consciousness, love and life.--Craig Johnson

Ron Pauls

historic farewell speech repeatedly mentioned governments initiation of force and put the responsibility on the people for accepting it and not demanding better.

Imagine One million signature to this petition changing the conversation to living life in peace, value creation and prosperity.

"...You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one." - John Lennon

The creation, production and fair exchange of values is the business of evolving consciousness, love and life.--Craig Johnson


Do no harm is the moral goal, I get that, and a lot of people get it too, but things become very complicated BECAUSE people do harm on purpose including the harm caused by deception.

Trial by Jury, based upon sortition, and Common Law, experience earned the hard way, works to Do No Harm, but it is not perfect, and the scope of such a method of doing no harm, again not perfect, is a LOCAL, or MICRO, or small scale, example of what people do, when people organize, in a commons sense, common law, method of applying a do no harm RULE to their lives as time goes by.

What about massive armies of people who are either willfully criminal or who are duped into being willfully criminal?

Confederation works.

People confederate with people, families confederate with families, cities confederate with cities, and States (legal fictions) are made into being as organized efforts by which, if needed, a defensive force can, BY DESIGN, deter any attacks by any potential Aggressive Army of War for Profit of any kind.

If a State defensive army deterrence organization, standing or in a militia STATE, is not BIG ENOUGH, or POWERFUL ENOUGH, to deter a very large organized criminal Army of Aggression for Profit, then Confederated States can Confederate into a larger Defensive Force in Defense of Liberty, such as, for example, the time between 1776 and 1788 in America, under The Articles of Confederation, including Trial by Jury based upon sortition, and including Common Law, and including legal monetary competition, and including the Sovereign POWER of one State to join, invest into, or un-join, and no longer "provide the means by which we suffer" if the Federal part of the Confederation were to ever turn to Crime made Legal.

So...why so much contradiction when precedents have already been set?

Why does anyone have to re-invent the wheels that were already working as round as needed?


They will claim that a "threat" exists.

When I was a kid you could "threaten" to hit someone but as long as you didn't touch them everything was cool.

Today if you threaten even a bully (the government is the biggest bully of all), they will use force against you and claim justification.

Free speech no longer includes "threats" even "threats" made in defense of one's self.

If stand on your front lawn and tell a cop you will shoot anyone who comes into your house they will call for backup and come knock your door down and shoot you first and ask questions later.

This nation is literally in a state of perpetual war since 9/11, any use of force by government is immediately justified in their minds as a means to eliminate all threats, especially verbal threats.


Government by its very nature initiates force.

Shall we also petition scorpions no to sting, rain not to fall, thieves not to steal, and murderers not to murder?

No amount of petitioning will stop the State from doing that which is in its nature.

We are told that our government was formed to protect our natural rights to Life, Liberty, and Property, but it's very existence denies these rights.

First it takes your property through taxation, if you refuse to hand over your property it will take away your liberty through imprisonment, and if you refuse to give up your liberty it will take your life.

We are afraid of others depriving us of our rights to life, liberty, and property, so we create an institution that deprives us these rights, in order to protect us from those that what would deprive us of our rights?

The only way out of this is for masses of people to withdraw their consent from the state through individual secession.

The state is a house of cards, without your consent, it will fall.

We may not be there yet, but through continued education of the public, we can someday reach this goal.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com

"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

I agree!

Insisting on this prime law would be a good start/foundation.

The creation, production and fair exchange of values is the business of evolving consciousness, love and life.--Craig Johnson