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The terrorist state of Israel performing ethnic cleansing

Once again, the terrorist state of Israel is on a campaign to kill as many babies, womens and old people that they can.

On one side you have armored tanks and F15 jets. On the other side you have hungry people with rocks and Kalashnikov.

Why in the world are we supporting this regime?


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If Palestinian refugees are

If Palestinian refugees are not allowed to return to their old villages, why should one Jew be allowed to live in the remaining 22 per cent of Palestine? See how unfair that is? And don't forget that every Jewish colony must have Jewish only roads, schools, etc. You really need to learn more about this issue. Your ignorance and that of most Americans is why this issue never gets resolved. If we did as Ron Paul recommends, Israel would have to stand on its own, and would then be forced to make a just peace with the Palestinians, who have already lost so much. No other people in the world is ever required to lay down and take it like them.

That would be politically suicidal.

Israel will never agree to let the Palestinian refugees and their descendants come back. If they let them be Israeli citizens, the Israelus would find themselves a minority in their own country.


I used to believe that stuff too -- until I realized who has all the nukes and American-made weapons. There's really no contest.

All Israel has to do, from my layman's perspective, is to first declare their borders and then secure their borders. But they won't because they want more land. That's what this is about and that's why innocent people on both sides are dying -- over land.

But, if Israel did declare its borders and secure them

like you said, that wouldn't prevent Hamas from shooting rockets into Israel or carrying out car bombings, etc. From Hamas' perspective and the perspective of many common Palestinians, some no doubt with good reason, Israel shouldn't control or govern one square kilometer of land that Palestinians live on. There are Palestinians all throughout Israel.

And your point?

If Israel declared its borders and secured them and were still attacked, then of course they would have every right to defend themselves. But, again, they haven't done that because they want more land.

"There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism." ~ Romans 2:9-11

My point is that those rocket attacks

haveattacks have nothing to do with Israel not clearly defining its borders. If Israel let Gaza be its own separate country, there would still be constant military conflict because of the fact that Israel occupies land the Pslestinians believe should be theirs. I don't see Israel attacking Jordan or Syria to acquire more land. Gaza technically is Israel. How is retaliating against domestic terrorists in your own country a sign of wanting more land? I see it as trying to maintain what they still have.

And We Are Considering

...obliterating Iran because they "might" develop a nuclear weapon(several juries out on THAT one) and use it against "fill in the blank" which justifies killing thousands of innocent Iranians ...and that is moral and just to prevent another World War where even more "might" die?

Sorry, but I don't buy that Israel is acting out of moral and just reasons or concern for the Palestinian people. At many stages in this ugly game, the Palestinians have bent over backwards even being willing to give up the little bit of land they are imprisoned in all in hopes of being recognized as a people deemed worthy of having a safe place in which to raise their families. They are angry and afraid and have every reason to feel that way.

Ron Paul says there is blowback and even unintended consequences for our actions of malice and power and racial pride. The lives of the Israelis are of no greater value than those of the Palestinians.

To change my feelings about Israel's acts of aggression would require Israel attempting moral and just diplomatic moves toward peace rather than turning the entire Middle East into some kind of "hunger game" mentality and "justified" killing field.


Well, the Palestinians are feeling plenty of blowback.

The Israelis' lack of precision in their airstrikee this week is inexcusable and the ten dead Palestinians is a lamentable tragedy. But, Israel's not going to let the Palestinians shoot tickets at their people and not retaliate. Whether or not the Israeli government has been fair toward Gaza doesn't excuse the title of this post. The airstrikee are not meant to ethnically cleanse anybody, they were meant to kill the people jainching rockets and destroy the rockets themselves - both of which they have been successful in accomplishing.

Why'd they fire the rockets?

Is it a "poke em in the side with a stick till they punch us" type thing?

They fired the rockets because Hamas

does not believe the nation of Israel should exist.

Someone explain why this was

Someone explain why this was downvoted.

Cause Gaza is STILL occupied!

Cause Gaza is STILL occupied!

Israel and USA are playing the world stage

and distracting from other matters by this threat of war, either the Palestine distraction or Iran war distraction.

In the meantime do keep an eye on what is being sneaked into being right under your noses in the USA. Obama has 4 years to turn the US and the world into a global fascist state. Beware folks. He will be sneaky and move fast while we are distracted by hurricanes and threats of war. Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), a 15-member panel of unelected federal employees; its members to be appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate to decide who is worthy of getting health care.


Your Question :

"Why in the world are we supporting this regime?"

That's maybe why the top American military are currently being replaced.

The troops have more loyalty to the Generals, Admirals, etc. than they do to the chicken hawks that have already placed their loyalty to paper money, at the expense of the working classes.


That is the second biggest T organization in the world.

Guess who is number one?

It is not us. It is the USgovt. Just thought I would point it out. Their ongoing crimes make the State of Israel's look like child play.

and a good friend of mine whom I know to have a . . .

good heart just got through telling me that Obama is not treating Israel with enough respect.

I am . . . speechless.

*sigh of despair*

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

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Answer to your question:

"We" are not supporting this Regime. That Regime controls our Govt. and is now controlling us. The Sheeple who bow to that idol are ignorant - brainwashed - deceived "do good'ers" who think that they know it all. Sad but true (I know because I'm surrounded by them - ugh)

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa


Every time I think about that racist immoral blood-lusting little shithole called Israel, I am filled with disgust, rage and despair for the Palestinian people.

They are burning Palestinian children!


I will not be cowered into fear by the stupid charge of "anti-Semitism." This burning of a Semite child is real "anti-Semitism."

Ask yourself this defenders of Israel: What would America do if Mexico occupied a portion of our land? What would America do if Mexico set up Mexican only colonies on our land? All of these hypocrties who condemn Palestinians for measly rocket attacks know very well that any Mexican soldier attempting to defend that occupation or colony would have a bullet in their head!

Quote from Mises

"If some peoples pretend that history or geography gives them the right to subjugate other races, nations, or peoples, there can be no peace."

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Ask Yourself a Question/Detention Camps

...and anticipate the enemies' next move. And, I am going someplace none of us wants to think about.

I thought the unthinkable. WWIII breaks out and the propaganda/fears and lies machine goes into over-drive. A few domestic terrorist (paid) acts are publcised and even a few real ones by lone radicals. All Muslims those who practice the religion of Islam and others who are merely of Middle Eartern descent are placed in FEMA detention camps.

Couldn't happen? Yes it could. During another World War, a huge number of American citizens, many a docile people including families, were placed in detention camps..."for our protection." Would we allow that to happen again? Could history repeat itself given the media manipulation?

I hope not. I would consider that a thief of liberty I would stand against.


Russell Means said "You are all Indians now" - a wise warning.

But we would be better served to understand we are all Palestinians tomorrow.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:

Why are we supporting...

...this regime? Because it calls itself "Israel" and Americans who claim to be Christians that support the Israeli government unconditionally just because of the name either don't read or understand the Bible. They must be busy reading "Left Behind" type books -- over 65 million copies sold -- and these people vote.

But you probably knew that. You probably also know that this will end very badly but not in the way the "Left Behind" crowd thinks.


...all the nations of the world, including ours, will be aiming their weapons at Israel at the final battle....so who is using who to "protect their interests oversees?"

The "Left Behind" folks...

...think "all nations of the world, including ours, will be aiming their weapons at Israel at the final battle."

But, again, none of that is in the Bible. It is, however, in the big-selling "Late Great Planet Earth"/"Left Behind" books.

Now now

Jews have been persecuted in the past, so Israel has earned the right to persecute and ethnically cleanse the Palestinian people. Anyone who says otherwise is an anti-semite and probably a Nazi. You don't want to be a Nazi anti-semite do you? (sarcasm)

Bump for awareness

According to Twitter, 13 Palestinians have been killed in the past 24 hours, including an 11 month old baby boy, a 7 year old girl, and a pregnant women, and many more have been injured. :(

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Vote for the Golden Rule

...by bumping for awareness. Any article on what is really happening in the Middle East is important and is directly related to a move toward liberty and understanding the word "liberty."

This goes beyond "foreign policy" ... it has to do with ethics and placing value on human life...all human lives. Anyone who does not see this must believe that "order" will come out of chaos created and manipulated. That kind of "order" is not something any of us wants.

The "same" tactics used "over there" WILL be used "over here" and in fact the media fixation and lies proves that to be so. Propaganda is instilling fear here toward an entire group of law abiding citizens (people of Middle Eastern descent) by focusing on a lone "terrorist" here and there (often paid.)

If for no other reason, we should look at demographics and learn to live together while fighting the propaganda machine. It is very easy to project how a lone or small group of radicals who hang a "liberty" label around their necks could be used to depict the entire body of those of us who are fighting for true liberty for all people.


The Golden Rule is this: He

The Golden Rule is this: He who has all the gold, makes all the rules!

Larry in North Carolina
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!