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Alex Jones 11-15-12: Secessionist Movement, Draft Ron Paul to Restore the Republic

Link for entire program thanks to Thimbleberry
Alex Jones Show: Thursday (11-15-12) Edwin Vieira Jr. & Lew Rockwell

http://youtu.be/EFd5r3H3Bn4

Alex Jones will break down what the exploding secessionist movement really means and the federal government's plan to crush the states and sideline their rights guaranteed under the Constitution and the Tenth Amendment. Constitutional lawyer Edwin Vieira, Jr. will examine the different angles on the burgeoning movement and Alex will give you the key to true secession and how it can lead to true restoration of the Republic. We will also cover the historic farewell speech by Rep. Ron Paul on this Thursday, November 15 edition of the Alex Jones Show.



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Ron Paul

will not do this. He will not be associated with this. He did what he thought was best during the campaign. Even though some of us didn't agree with it. He made his decision. His career as a politician is over.

We are the movement now. It's time to STOP looking for orders from headquarters and take the next step in keeping the Liberty movement alive...

Ron Paul never could do anything by himself. But he doesn't even want to do this. He said himself that he had no faith in politics...

Wether we like it or not. It's on US now... In a way, it always has been...

In summary...

If the Fed is the most of our problem, and it feeds of taxes, then it's time we starved the beast! If you pay taxes to the problem, you only keep it alive!

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

I usually don't like A.J.

I usually don't like A.J., but I gave this a whirl and it was pleasantly surprising.

Don't take that as an endorsement for A.J., though.

-Jix

I felt the same way...

and as time went by, I began to see that he's right. A similar thing with Ron Paul!
On the surface, it all sounds too crazy, but look at what's going on now! It's even more crazy!!!

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

I Love Alex Jones

Alex Jones is the only one who comes close to Ron Paul. With that said I watched MSM for 10 minutes last night and there was Fox News saying that the Palestinian missiles launched at Tel Aviv were obtained from Iran. There was no explanation as to how they knew where they came from. Without any proof you might as well have said they came from Israel which would have been more believable. There is no way these missiles came from Iran. This is just another excuse for the globalist to kill another 500,000 civilians like in Iraq.

This time don't give us Barabbus!

I have never seen Alex so intense

I wonder if Ron Paul is supporting this?

Probably the most significant AJ show to date

and not 1 in a 5000 will ever understand why...

Tell me what your answer is.

I'd be willing to bet there are probably no more than 50 here on the entire site that even caught it or even understand what he was talking about.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

AJ is lying less than 3 minutes in - anybody care?

At about 2 to 3 minutes in, AJ claims there is a "Federal law" requiring a reply to these petitions. Here is what the White House petition website says:

"Introduction

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

-The First Amendment, United States Constitution

The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. We created We the People because we want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response."

They are using this ruse to fulfill the 1st amendment "redress of grievances" but it has no force of law.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

TMOT "Secession -Obama Says Bring It"

Take it from TMOT:

http://www.dailypaul.com/263193/tmot-secession-obama-says-br...

I think the best way to do this is to do what Ron Paul told us and get involved locally, help remind the GOP what the true definition of republican is.

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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The local church(not a building -a people) is the missing link. The time to build is now.

Link

Here's a link to the whole show for those who need it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFd5r3H3Bn4

SteveMT's picture

That would be me. Thanks, Thimbleberry

Appreciated.

If you can't handle AJ

at least listen to the part when he talks to Lew Rockwell. Man thats some uplifting stuff he said about Ron Paul "having some big plans" come January.

It made my day!

To play off the hoe's book about Patraeus...when it comes to working with Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell...I'm ALL IN!

Jones is run by the Bronfman's

this guy i used to follow him big time but i have had my eyes opened .. not only is he related to the bronfmans but he is also finance by the jesuits.. hate to be the bringer of bad news ,, but he never ever will talk about the jewish cabal thats tied in with the Bush cabal, i heard him rail againist Ron Paul , and i quote ,I will never support him again" he throws RP under the bus , and now hes everyones best buddy .. this guy is so full of disinformation makes me sick.. oh well free choice as my giant ron paul says .. make your own choice .. well i have ..
For liberty..

gary gettis

So AJ has the faith virus Freedom Rocks

He is FAR from alone in that area. He bashes the bushes all the time but you are going to be hard pressed to find many christians who will say anything bad about israel or jews. (they fear being struck by lightening or that the devil has taken over their body or that they are going to burn in a fire pit after they are dead) All MUCH more logical than anything AJ has to say. :)

Anyway...anything anyone puts forward nowdays can be verified or sourced on the internet. Are you saying because AJ is funded by some group (Ive never heard of btw) or holds some mythological belief, nothing he says can be trusted or verified? I'd need to look up bonfmans if I wanted to specifically address them but Im not interested right now...maybe later. Point is...I CAN research what anyone says.

The only things I question about AJ are his "unbiased" product endorsments...but I understand them...Free Market Baby! ...that and his level of fear mongering...although who am I to say how close we are to tyranny? Maybe I should be more concerned?

In my view FEAR is the worst kind of prison. The ONLY thing I fear anymore are the jackbooted thugs that hide around my city waiting to bust my ass for some non crime. And I dont really fear them...I loath them and their ears must burn everytime I see them. lol.

Know what? You CAN research it before you reply.

You reacted emotionally because you like AJ as a source. You admit you do not know who the Bronfman's are when the other person clearly DOES know who they are. When someone OBVIOUSLY knows something you do not, how about you look into it BEFORE you reply?
Here's a little help researching the Bronfmans:
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/coverups/bronfmanm...

And bear in mind, many of the really big names go to great effort to make sure you have never heard of them.

Now, I have not listened to this yet, I will try but I have a really crappy connection and can hardly watch any videos. But here is what I am betting i will hear: Alex has discovered that The People are rising up, and he wants to position himself as a "leader." He is throwing out Ron Paul's name as bait, and a whole lot of people will take it.
These petitions mean NOTHING. There are people signing them from all over the country for Idaho - NOT Idahoans. Have you looked at your state? Furthermore, all they will do is get a "response" from the White House, not even a promise to address the issue. A response can be "We received it." Last but certainly not least, a state does not secede by asking permission. They do it by exerting their right to do so, and I see none of that going on. But AJ will have a DVD out about it by next week, and be hawking his wares to survivalists with his fear-based advertising empire.
Understand, I still bless AJ for all the good work he does, I just suspect he does it so he can sow some evil seeds - although I certainly cannot know his heart.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

I was not replying to your comment fishy

and whats with the "you reacted emotionally" comment? I didn't react emotionally. I responded to a comment made by freedomrocks.

I've been in a great mood all day. I was fixing to go to work so I was merely indicating I had never heard of Bronfmans and would need to look them up before addressing that specific part of freedomrocks comment.

Don't get so excited. If anyone is getting "emotional" here...its you fishy.

"Whatever else I said a minute ago, the last word I want to get in is
LOVE!" Live it...don't just say it.

Less than 3 minutes in and he already proved me right.

He knew about this 10 years ago, and he can show us how to restore the Republic if we follow his plan, blah blah blah... The kicker - and again, I have only been able to watch 3 minutes so far, is when he claims there is a "Federal law" regarding the White House and petitions. I can't find that law - can you? Did anyone think to look? Maybe there is one and I can't find it. All I find is a non-binding promise to "respond" to a petition. Did he mis-speak? Is he misinformed? Maybe, or maybe he is disinfo-ing.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

SteveMT's picture

This was one of the best infowars program, I've heard.

And believe me, I've heard many. Listening made my day, also.

Thanks.

Sans having Dr.Paul on

that was the best show AJ has ever done.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

I listened to every minute of this show..

It was AWESOME. To those of you who hate AJ, for the life of me WHY? He had a legitimate bitch about Dr. Paul at the time..many did! But to say that AJ is not a TRUE Patriot and someone willing to take a bullet for his beliefs..you are DEAD WRONG. I give this guy a TON of credit, he will not back down on principle..unlike Glen Beck..now there is a real winner..his best friends are the International bankers from Isreal..and he sure as hell cant say anything wrong about them...he is a puppet. AJ is not. I gave this show a double thumbs up..I listened last week when Dr. paul spoke on his show..AWESOME. Cant get this kind of truth on EL RUSHBO Radio or Sean Hannity..or Bill Oh REALLY...none of them..more puppets. Give this a listen..it is awesome.

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Phxarcher87's picture

hello

can you get him on fm or am? My dad drives alot and he like to listen to that loud republican guy. i cant think of his name. But i feel alex jones would be a great substitute? What channel and time?

One of the biggest pitfalls in a "movment" is the temptation to get cultish about it and refuse to realize that it is only part of the picture. -Joel Salatin ; You Can Farm pg 202

Alex Jones

He is on satellite XM radio channel 166 and some regular radio. His show is noon to 3 Eastern.

Phxarcher87's picture

My dad is a working man and i

My dad is a working man and i dont think he will be able to listen to him in the middle of the day.

One of the biggest pitfalls in a "movment" is the temptation to get cultish about it and refuse to realize that it is only part of the picture. -Joel Salatin ; You Can Farm pg 202

SteveMT's picture

The program is rebroadcast every 3 hours....

continually until the next program the following day.

www.infowars.com

I listened to it too. Why do

I listened to it too. Why do people trash him? Most of the time he lets out really good information.

Most people who criticize him have never really given the show a chance.

"Why do people trash him?"

I find the rampant criticism of Alex Jones unwarranted as well. Of course he is not perfect, as no one is. You have use your filter when listening, just as with any commentary. The same people who run around criticizing him probably watch the Today Show with their mom occasionally or turn on Rush once in a while when in the car. They should know how to filter, and your filter doesn't have to be nearly as fine for Alex Jones as it does for most other "news sources". Alex is doing a great job.

Most of that trashing

These are bots. "Persona Management Software". The minute it parses "Alex Jones", the smears roll out.

Seen those used on Ron Paul too, on some gun boards. There was always a cluster of handles smearing him 24/7 with talking points.

It's all word parsing and generation and even an intermediate Perl script can do this.

Thank you. As a hobby

Thank you. As a hobby programmer, I have known this kind of stuff was out there, but never knew the term to phrase it in. I tried to research PR firms that are hired to alter the digital public consensus, but always ran into a brick wall.

After Googling the term 'Persona Management Software', I am getting the info I wanted.

More people need to be aware of this.

Sounds like a good show

Vieira is one of the best scholars out there. I strongly recommend reading some of his articles and watching some of his interviews and lectures.

Archive of articles by Edwin Vieira:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwinA.htm

YouTube videos:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=edwin+vieira&oq...

He also appeared along with Ron Paul in Aaron Russo's documentary America: Freedom to Fascism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTEMrwCW3QA#t=0m8s

PLEASE...

listen to Jones show about this! It is RAZOR-SHARP Alex Jones at his best.

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.