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Interesting Comment from Realtor Last Week

My wife and I went to Arkansas again last week to pick out our family retreat property.

While driving around with the realtor and chatting, he made a couple of interesting comments.

First, he said that this has been his best year in real estate ever. I knew the market was picking up, but that it could be "the best year" surprised me.

The second, and much bigger surprise, was out of the blue. He said that 80-90% of the people he has worked with this year have been just like us. Out-of-state people looking to move where it's low crime and safe, where the local population is conservative and wants government out of our lives, and looking to get some useable land with natural water sources like ponds & creeks so they can have gardens, raise livestock, etc.

80-90%! Holy crap!!

Based on his comments, it appears the prepper movement is growing faster than I imagined. Everyone is starting to see the writing on the wall.

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The Problem

with SHTF scenarios is that we don't know how big the fan is or where the S#$%* is going to land.

Also the Gu'ment could decide to raise property taxes to infinity using a "the ayes have it" tax plan.

I say we take a vote to make politicians and central bankers pay back the debt.

All in Favor????

My mom is a realtor and word is a new wave of foreclosures is..

My mom is a realtor and word is a new wave of foreclosures is about to hit the market.

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He must be lying

because the MSM is telling us differently. People want more government, preppers are social outcasts, and Ron Paul is a kook.

[rolling eyes so much I now have a headache]

;-)

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
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Land & Water

Theres loads of land here with streams..under ground streams..near lakes..creeks...and so on. Move to the right area..the land is dirt cheap. My area is western NC and right next to upstate SC..The only problem is..this is DEMOCRAT MOSTLY NEOCON COUNTRY now..and the Lord and me knows that needs to change..PDQ

I believe in Hope & Change..I Hope the government will Change
Spindale-Rutherford County-North Carolina

Am I right that there

is not that much in the way of coal extraction
and gas fracking down that way?

W/all due respect to any coal miners who might
be present, that sure has trashed a lot of otherwise
nice country farther north in the Appalachians and
affected society negatively (my personal take on it,
anyway).

My impression is that Western NC and East Tennessee
have escaped a lot of that and are still pretty nice..

Any thoughts?

Guy, Arkansas is fracked all to hell

Earthquake swarms finally stopped when they halted fracking, but the little town was getting jiggled off the map.
Also, see Jesse Ventura on the Ozarks - that is interesting stuff. BUT - the little town he says is suffering quakes from underground construction is rattling from FRACKING and Jesse fails to even mention that.
I loved Arkansas in many ways, but am glad to be gone. Seed ticks, water moccasins, tarantulas, winters with sheets of ice falling from the sky... I live in Idaho now, where the winter driving is EASY compared to Arkansas.

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Glad you're enjoying Idaho

I used to love the drive up the Lochsa River when my folks were
living over in the Bitterroot Valley (Montana).

My dad lives in the

My dad lives in the Bitterroot part of Montana, just outside a little town called Sula.

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That is how I arrived in the Northwest.

I moved from Ohio, came in through Lolo Pass. I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Turns out I was still alive!

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Please message me

Not sure how to receive and send msgs on here exactly. Reply to this post with some way for me to contact you. I can give you some good advice on this topic I believe.

Cheers,

Roger

Ozarks territory is a prime

Ozarks territory is a prime SHTF retreat.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Apparently

you are not alone in that belief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AT7-6DhaFA

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

I have a real estate license

I have a real estate license here in Las Vegas. I'm searching for land as well. Here are my suggestions: find out about water rights. You might find you can't put a well on your land and you don't want to be at the mercy of a public utility if no one comes to work. Here in the west, most states have a domestic well exempt and don't require water rights to pump a reasonable amount of water. The exception is Utah. Don't buy land unless it has a road to it. If you want a grid connection, get a quote for the cost to bring power out there. Check the zoning as well to make sure it is useful to you.

If you have to buy water rights to have a well on your property, buy the oldest water rights you can get. A water right established in 1928 has more claim to the water than a right established in 1970. Water rights is not a waste of money, water is a commodity and unlike gold, you can drink it. If you need water rights to put in a well, make your offer to buy land contingent on finding acceptable water rights.

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Thanks

Our property already has a well on it with both an electric pump as well as direct access so that in SHTF I can easily drop a bucket down into the well and draw up water the really old fashioned way. It also has a creek running through it. I am pretty sure all mineral rights are coming to us with the property as I remember that being in the contract. I assume that based on your comments that water rights are included too. Also, there is a pond about 200 yards (?) from the house that the owner is keeping to water cattle if/when he ever wants to. Still I think in a SHTF scenario I may be able to take advantage of that pond. I need to see if it's stocked with fish yet or not... otherwise I may work on setting up an aquaponics system in the spring.

Our family's journey from the Rocket City to the Redoubt: www.suburbiatosimplicity.com

Looks like Arkansas doesn't

Looks like Arkansas doesn't require registration of domestic use wells and that they don't assign water rights. Any well pumping less than 325,000 gallons (1 acre-foot) of water doesn't have to be registered. Arkansas only assigns water rights when the source of water is being over-allocated such as when too many wells are emptying a ground water source. Even then, domestic wells are excluded. Most people don't use 325,000 gallons of water a year unless they're also farming and raising livestock. If you're not doing either right away, maybe you should build your own pond and use the well water to fill it.

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These ideas aren't restricted

These ideas aren't restricted to "preppers" anymore. They are becoming common sense ideas everywhere no matter where people live. People in cities are becoming just as aware and are demanding that their food be raised humanly and not in the Food Inc. system. They have their prepping connections as well.

realtor comments

I live in Wisconsin. A realtor acquaintance who was not trying to sell me anything and knew I wasn't in the market, mentioned that after 9/11, sales of rural escape places reached an all time high. Her clients were mostly from the Chicago area. I guess they were looking for places to escape to should something happen to Chicago.

All politics are local. All real estate is localer.

Real estate is not relocatable.

Agents selling you real estate are similar to me... No disrespect to either of you.

    "I would rather tell seven lies than make one explanation."
    - Letter to John Bellows, 11 April 1883

Why would an agent try to convince you of anything beyond buying what he has to sell? He knows your actions already telegraphed your intentions... Brought you to his local area to buy.

Real estate sales are always a deal.

    "Buy land. They ain't making any more of it." - Will Rogers, Rope Trick Artist Stage Performer & US Treasury Bond Salesman

    "I don't make this stuff up. Says right here in the newspaper!" - Will Rogers, commenting on the daily news

If you want to see who is making money, take a look here: ♔ "Money Trail" ♔ International Bank Cartel ♖ Monopoly Boyz Submitted by Mark Twain on Fri, 11/16/2012

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It's funny

I read an article recently that said that realtors always use that line....the people near here are "just like you"

2 Chron 7:13-14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

One of the popular lines used by realtors is

that someone else is looking at this property so you better get your offer in quick.

You were just fed a version of it.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Stay away from Guy!

Our friends bought a 20 acre "retreat" 20 years ago. Their neighbors all sold rights to the natural gas drillers, so they eventually caved in and did, too. There land is poisoned, their water is poisoned, they doubt they can sell it if anyone does any research... The area is fracked now, and they have earthquakes almost every day. The state decided the money for the rights was "capital gains" and added it to the ANNUAL personal property tax. You read that right. Arkansas taxes you on the things you own, every year. (Billy Jeff's good work as governor.)
About that crime rate - they are really good at not reporting crime. Little Rock had about a murder a day, but most never made the news or statistics. It was spreading to other towns, too. We left Conway when they decided they needed metal detectors at the public schools, gang crime was so bad. I have been told that it is better, but that is why I left.
One last tip: Learn about seed ticks and water moccasins before you meet them.

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Wow gnarly they have quakes

Wow gnarly they have quakes every day?
Oooh yeah rock on!

Southern Agrarian

Hey! You like this stuff, I know someone who will hook you up.

It is actually dozens per day according to this article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1354514/Guy-A...

"A tiny American town has become one of the earthquake capitals of the world after suffering more than a dozen tremors every single day.

Residents of Guy in Arkansas have lived through thousands of minor quakes in just six months after gas drilling apparently destabilised the earth beneath them."

20 acres with a little house they built by hand - you can have a ROCKIN' good time, he'll cut you a great deal.

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Worry is like a rocking chair, it will give you something to do.

Put on your porch. You can watch others work the fields.

In this town, you might have a foot rest installed on your rocker.

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Remember....

your talking to a salesman.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

True except

we didn't mention anything about our motives or other detailed needs such as the ability to live off grid for extended periods of time, place to build a shooting range, good places for surveillance spots and lookouts, easily defense-able property layout, etc.

We basically only told him we wanted 10-40 acres, some natural source of water, and maybe the ability to have a horse or cow some day. Our line was we were simply looking for a "vacation property", so our kids (home schooled) could enjoy the outdoors more.

The second day He started a rant against the Patriot Act without any kind of lead in from us.

Also I told my wife we could get some tools from a pawn shop. She said that she had never been in a pawn shop, but I corrected her and told her that she got her pistol from a pawn shop. The realtor spouted up that he only buys guns via private sale from the local online yard sale sight...never from any stores. Maybe fairly common given the demographics of the area, but still an interesting tidbit.

I wouldn't expect this stuff in a normal sales pitch, but maybe I'm just easily duped.

I also know that many of the other prepper-friendly properties (water source, alternative energy, matures orchards & gardens, good mix of farm land and woods, etc.) that we had wanted to see had been snatched up in the 4 weeks since our initial talk with him and our visit this past week. Again maybe just a coincidence, but still...

Our family's journey from the Rocket City to the Redoubt: www.suburbiatosimplicity.com

Sounds like the hand of Providence

to me, Just my view, though.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Liberate tuteme ex inferis

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche