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Ready to leave Dodge (New York). We're now looking at Maine. Any suggestions?

My husband and I have had it here. We're looking for better life for our children.

For years I wanted to get out of this country, but that really doesn't seem possible with a large family, so the next best thing is to find a better state to live in that is not as regulated, taxed, or communist-minded.


We originally chose Montana, but we now think it is too far. Work is still a problem. Any suggestions will be very helpful!

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Long hair, NH?

y aren't u considering NH over Maine or Montana?

New York Mainer here!

Feel free to PM me. My wife and I live in NY currently but just bought a place in southern Maine. We absolutely love it. Not ready to move full time yet, but we are certainly beginning to make the transition.

Unlearning and self-teaching since 2008. Thanks, Dr. Paul!

Arkansas Welcomes You!

Deer hunting, Water and lots of Freedom.

My hunting license ($25.00 came with 6 deer tags and 2 turkey tags)and the 5 month bow season just opened Yee Haw!!!

Our neighbors place is for sale on about 5 acres. Raise your Guinea hens, rabbits, chickens and goats in peace. Property tax is practically non-existent, no crime, great gun laws and close to town but still in the country.

They also have a well and city water will also be available as an option down the road. We are outside of Salem about 2.5 miles or so.


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No one from Maine?

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)


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I moved to Maine in 2006...

...from the DC area and don't regret a second of it... I don't know how to get contact info to you, but if you tell me how, I'd be happy to chat with you about my awesome experience.

Yours in Liberty,


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote..." ~ Ben Franklin

"The 'cost of freedom' is risk and responsibility..." ~ Me

I contacted you..

through this site. If you don't get it let me know.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

No one from Maine?

I thought there were a lot of Ron Paul supporters there!

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Come to Ala-freakin-Bama!

Come to Ala-freakin-Bama! We've got chubby ol' groundhogs, croakin' bullfrogs, free as feeling in the wind!

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. - Matthew 10:16

I'm in long beach ny

The beach is nice but the people have changed into immoral drones bordering on animals. I am liquid , meaning I don't own a house anymore and I am ready to go if needed. Northern cal / lake Tahoe area is wonderful, northern Colorado and parts of Delaware are great. The thing is I don't care to go anywhere else right now, I don't need help from anyone and no community will rescue me. I am free . Change your mindset and see if you can tolerate your location . The whistle blower is a rp supporter so expect the worse soon .

Hard to tolerate...

losing your 2nd Amendment rights under the SAFE Act. And where we are located is too close to major populations.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

What about Maine?


"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Not unless you love cold

You think winters are bad in NY, Maine is horrible.

I'd say Texas

but it seems everyone else is already moving here.

Maybe if you hang tight you'll have upstate New York all to yourselves.

The Adirondack mountains are beautiful.

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LOL... it's pretty empty out

LOL... it's pretty empty out here in the panhandle :)

It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. – Mark Twain

check out freedom in the 50 states

I apologize if this has already been posted, but it may provide a bit of objectivity for your search:

To the extent you'd like to be somewhat self-sufficient, you may want to consider things like: climate, geography, availability of water, availability of wood (heat source/cooking), population density, soil productivity, amount of annual precipitation (and form of precip.) or ability to irrigate, availability of wild game/fish, like-minded community.

Find a poor state with low population...

I prefer poor states with small populations. I lived in Maine for 30 years, but it has changed quite a bit. It used to be a small government, conservative, poor state but, because of its natural beauty it now has a lot of immigrants from NY and MA and other states with lots of money and who vote Democratic. Currently, there is a GOP governor, but I don't know how long he will last. The locals are really great, tolerant, honest, lots of common sense. The weather is brutal, though, second only to Alaska for endless winter. If you move there I would suggest staying south of Brunswick, but of course that is were all of the libs live, too.

I also lived in Missouri for a couple of years. Lots of down home people with a mix of conservative and liberal. What I didn't like was the population density and all of the highways...the noise was unbearable to me as I had just moved from an island off the coast of Maine. The weather is hot and humid in the summer with moderate winters, more ice than snow. The temps can be quite cold, but then they can shoot up into the 60's for a few days right in the middle of winter.

I then moved to southern NM for three years. A beautiful state, low population and at that time, southern NM , was poor...which I like (people are nicer). I couldn't handle the altitude and in the summer it is between 95 and 105 every day and it is very dry, which I also don't like. The town was 70% Hispanic (USA born) and very kind to us Anglos. Quiet,nothing happening. Nice.

Currently live in Western NC (8 years). Perfect climate on a year round basis, but taxes are the highest and most ridiculous of anywhere I have lived. They tax food here. The state government is anal retentive; there is a law for everything you can possibly think of. The natives are the least friendly of anywhere I have lived, but there are a lot of transplants, so you can have friends if you want. Just remember, DO NOT in any way attempt to discuss the civil war.

I would suggest moving west of the Mississippi; it is freer there, fewer people, and lower taxes, fewer laws. Only problem I have is it is mostly high and dry and my body needs moist and sea level (not interest in west coast...too many Obama supporters.)

And NC would be worse than NY?

Seems like NY is worse.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

think again...

I think it is worse than Taxachusettes. Keep in mind that the Dems controlled the state for 100 years. It was only in 2012 that the GOP took over both state houses and the governorship. The governor is very good; former mayor of Charlotte. The state house and senate are another thing. The GOP is spending just as much money as the Dems did; no change there.

There are so many laws that you are probably breaking one as soon as you step foot into the state. I had never heard of this one: if you move out of NC, you have to mail your license plate back or they will continue to send you a property tax bill for the car. (They also have auto inspection which everyone knows is a rip-off; out west they don't have them.)

On the other hand, the climate is wonderful in WESTERN NC. I emphasize western, because the rest of the state is very hot and muggy in the summer. Western has the mountains which moderate the summers. It's worth living here for the climate; it's a temperate rain forest and the flowers and trees are gorgeous.

Have you thought about Arkansas? I drove through there from NM to NC when moving and I stopped in a small town east of Little Rock for gas. As soon as I stepped out of my car, I felt this immense peace/love, whatever you want to call it. I was so moved by it I went into the gas station to see who worked there. It was two 20-something young women. I asked them about the feeling of peace in the area and one of them said, well everyone in this town just loves and cares for each other. (Don't know if you are into it or not, but Arkansas sits on top of huge quartz bed..whoo whoo I suppose, but there may be something to it). I have also been to Hot Springs, which is a tourist town, but the area is beautiful. It's another poor state, so the people are nice and friendly. Just a thought...I thought about it myself.

New Hampshire is the obvious choice...

NH has the free state project, so that obviously makes it the place to move. It has the second lowest tax burden in the country (no income or sales tax), and is one of the freest states in the union. We have the mountains, the ocean, near Boston, near Portland ME, (but you don't have to deal with MA and ME's socialist tendencies since you aren't living there). NH really is the best state in the union.

That's good to hear...

because for awhile it seemed like it was moving in the direction of Maine/MA, at least in the southern end.

The shooting range is down by the river.

For twenty-eight years reports would echo. Lately, I find myself feeling safer knowing I have armed neighbors.

The man who built this house in Livingstone County MI in 1842 brought his family of ten from Livingston County NY. He canoed up the Huron River and built a Post and Beam Home, then went to fetch the wife and children. River rides were far more comfortable than traveling early Michigan roads.

However, the crash of 2008 hit Michigan in 2000. We've lost a Congressional District.

Unemployment around here, just means no paycheck not lack of things to get done.

Good luck with your search.

Free includes debt-free!

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Good choice going to a border state and a coastal state.

You have two possible ways out from there. Check out Maine's gun laws and how many FFLs are up there. Also important to check are Maine's amount of natural resources. Find out who's prepping up there, too. Good luck.

Tennessee...the eastern


the eastern Tennessee mountain area or middle Tenn. in the Cumberland gap.

I highly recommend Joel Skousen's book 'Strategic Relocation' for anyone looking to relocate within the US.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Free State Project

Check out the free state project. Lots of liberty lovers to join up with.

Do you know anyone who lives there?

I read in Skousen's book that NH has the propensity of taking children from parents without a reason. That's scary to me.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Large drop in NH abuse cases cited in study

DCYF cases are confidential by law, so the public rarely gets to see how they work. DCYF's goal is to protect children while keeping the family together when possible, according to Director Maggie Bishop.

"When we knock on the door, the first thing we have to say is they don't have to speak to us,"


I never heard of such a thing in NH Long Hair

And I can't find anything on Google.
My son just bought a house there & I hope to move there my next year. I had a five year plan but CT is circling the drain faster now.
I've been ski vacationing there forever it seems & I love it there.
Keene has a lot of liberty activists. http://freekeene.com/
Here's a few more links:


or meaningless ramblings? You decide!

I moved back to NH recently, but have a few relatives who've raised kids here. They almost had a daughter taken away because a teacher's aid was convinced that a burn from a hairdryer was a sign of physical abuse, even though she said she did it herself by accident while drying her hair. Naturally, the principal/social worker/detective all sided with the teacher's aid, some 21 year old airhead.

They wanted to place her in a group home, transfer her to another school set her up with a respite family-- the works. All within an hour of showing up and before speaking word one to the kid.

Turns out the dryer was broken and overheated within seconds of turning it on, and ended up burning the case worker who wanted to 'recreate' the scene. (To her credit, at least she bothered in the first place.) It was only when the detective chalked it up as a misunderstanding that the case worker did too, though the school refused to let it go.

A lot of my neighbors have kids, and I know of at least a few who are unhappy with the school system here (mostly for tax reasons, though). You'll run into that almost everywhere though, better to homeschool (though from what I hear, there are quite a few hoops to jump through to get that squared away in this state).

Don't get me wrong, NH is a better place than most, and I've lived in just about every region of the country, but DCYF is quick to pounce on anyone who gets reported, and are difficult to get rid of. Some may see that as a good thing, and in theory maybe it is, but in practice it just seems creepy and intrusive IMO. But even so, it's more the public schools here than DCYF that seems to do the bulk of the initial meddling.

A signature used to be here!

Did some more searching & found a case

Sometimes it's justified, but my first thought is always that it is not & I'll be right there calling & writing letters.