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Ready to leave Dodge (New York). We're now looking at Maine. Any suggestions?

My husband and I have had it here. We're looking for better life for our children.

For years I wanted to get out of this country, but that really doesn't seem possible with a large family, so the next best thing is to find a better state to live in that is not as regulated, taxed, or communist-minded.

UPDATE:

We originally chose Montana, but we now think it is too far. Work is still a problem. Any suggestions will be very helpful!

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Wow Longhair - So even tho I got laughed at about my Lyme...

...Disease comment, I guess I wasn't too far off. I hate wood ticks!

You have to take many things into considerations when moving.

For example, I like Florida, but I hate lightening (kills electronics as well as people), and Florida is the lightening capitol of the world.

It might seem like a "silly fear" but if it matters to you, it isn't silly.

It's true that anywhere on the west coast is not going to be as free as New Hampshire, but my NUMBER ONE THING when moving is to AVOID A STATE WITH AN INCOME TAX!

There are at least 8 of them, so that narrows it down somewhat.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

But nearly all have sales taxes

n/t

What an silly fear.

What a silly fear. Washington state has a terribly high sales tax, if you want to talk comparisons. And "share of liberals" is an understatement.

Visit first, talk second.

Washington State is not very "free"

Okay, the cool thing about Washington state... no state income tax, the sucky part of it... Washington state has a ton of "hidden" taxes! So many that it is probably far more then you'd pay as a state income tax.

-Highest gas tax in the nation... w/ fed it is $0.54 per gallon. And gas is also way higher here then pretty much anywhere. My folks live in Toledo, OH, they are paying $2.95 a gal, we in Washington are paying $3.69+
-Ridiculous sales tax, minimum is 8.7%, some places are over 10%
-Hotel tax, rent car tax is I believe 17%
-Business tax is based off gross profit, not net profit! So if you lose money, you still have a high tax bill.
-Property taxes pretty high in metro areas.
-Washington state LOVES to tell you what you can or cant do with your property.
-Want to burn wood on your own property, bigger than a 4'x4' firepit..? $350 permit, or $1500 fine.
-Hope you like progressives... three counties full of progressive liberals, outvotes the other 31 counties... been 26 years since a "republican" governor, 46 years since "republican" majority.
-Many Washington cities are actively pushing "Agenda 21" sustainability... for the better you:)
-Critical Areas? If you have a gopher on your land, they will designate 60% of your land as critical area (ie. Wetlands, etc) and you still get the privilege of paying property tax. Can we all say "YAY!"

Oh and while gun laws are pretty lax here (lots of guns, just not allowed to use them), if you do not run away from a fight and instead turn and defend yourself with your gun... your going to prison for manslaughter/murder. Washington is a right to retreat state. YOU MUST RETREAT IF YOU CAN, even if you are armed. The criminal has all the power, even on YOUR property.

You made my point. I was

You made my point. I was arguing that WA was not free . . . To clarify, I was suggesting that @pawnstorm12 visit New Hampshire before writing it off in an online comment

New Hampshire

http://freestateproject.org/intro/ron_paul
http://freestateproject.org/101Reasons

Advice: Visit! Your only regret will be not knowing about this little corner of the world sooner.

I have also started to look

I have also started to look at different states after California just voted to increase taxes. I really like what Idaho has to offer. Very lax gun laws. DUI check points are illegal. Fairly low taxes. Only 9 years of compulsory school AND very lax homeschooling laws. It's not over populated and cost of living is pretty low. From the pictures I've seen the state looks to be very pretty.

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California!

This is the best place! just kidding
Seriously, I personally would say Flagstaff Arizona, but I like small towns. If you want big city, then maybe look at Texas, they have a lot of big cities. Most big cities are corrupt though, and have wanna be nannies for mayors. Everyone here, including my wife and I, are getting ready to move out of California. Before I lost my job, we were making almost 60,000 a year combined, and we still had to live with my parents. STAY AWAY FROM CALIFORNIA!!

So far I have ruled out California,

Massachusetts, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Florida, Illinois, Mississippi, and Connecticut.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Come to the more rural outskirts of Atlanta, Georgia!

We need more liberty minded folks here. Georgia is a big state with a lot of good folks who need more fair minded representation.

Georgia would be a refreshing change for you without being complete culture shock.

Southeast of Atlanta, Conyers or Covington and surrounding areas is a nice place to raise a family and the price of homes right now with all of the foreclosures is pretty good. You can definitely find a place here to grow your own food, milk your own cow(s) or goats, have chickens, etc. if that is anything you might be interested in. It's an eclectic blend of city and country that saw a lot of growth during the last housing bubble but has tapered off now.

We have enough cold weather during the winter to enjoy a cozy fire, but not so much that you'll ever need to shovel snow. Summers can be hot and no shortage of swimming pools. Spring and fall are gorgeous and my only serious complaint are the mosquitos. But folks survive and make good use of their screen porches. Ticks do live here but are not anywhere near the problem they seem to be in other places especially if you avoid the woods/brush and just check you and your children after a good outdoor romp.

There's a lot more I could say if I weren't so tired right now.

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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The local church(not a building -a people) is the missing link. The time to build is now.

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"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

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As we all know...

It may make a bit of difference where you live, but nearly not as much as how you get by from day to day and how you live.

I live in Maine and digging it.

In a lot of ways it is very warm here.

Liberty lovers are very welcome!

upper state New York

is one of the most beautiful places Ive ever seen.If you move your going to miss the landscape.

Yes, if I had to think of one thing

that is great about this state it is that. Also, we have great water, that is until they ruin it by fracking.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

NH only if you fit

NH has been "Best place to raise kids" for ~ 4 years in a row.
NH is NOT NY. Freedom can be ugly.
Inventory what you believe, and if it aligns with NH and the people, then think about it. If you are a I heart NY person, then you won't be happy here in this quiet backwoods state. I commute to LI NY for my job every couple of weeks.

I moved in 09, and it was the best decision ever.

I think the traditional NH way is fantastic and moved here to support NH. I have stopped trying to get everyone to move after I realized that most people don't 'get' freedom and liberty. Large populations become rude etc. Its not a knock, but fact of human nature / mob psychology.

I am very glad you are looking to get out of NY for your family. Make sure where you land fits. Good luck!

I strongly recommend the

I strongly recommend the states where Ron Paul drove a bulldozer through paving the way for future freedom and liberty.

Those states would be hands down Iowa, Maine, and NV. There are others. But in these 3 states the GOP will be absolutely dominated by Ron Paulers therefore future candidates for Sheriff, state legislature, Governor, Senators, Congressmen, will ALL be Ron Paulers!

Those 3 states will be bastions of freedom and liberty.

South Jersey

Do not move to South Jersey (otherwise known as Florida). You will be arrested.

Alabama

Alabama- we have very low property taxes, and we're nice to boot!

"The Yankee is compelled to toil to make the world go around."
-Admiral Raphael Semmes, CSN
http://standrewsnews.org

And the Alabama accent is adorable!

Alabama is lovely state. But for someone from New York looking to relocate, I would recommend the suburb and more rural outskirts of Atlanta, GA unless you don't really need to be close to any urban area.

Southeast of Atlanta, Conyers or Covington and surrounding areas is a nice place to raise a family and the price of homes right now with all of the foreclosures is pretty good.

There's a lot more I could say if I weren't so tired right now.

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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The local church(not a building -a people) is the missing link. The time to build is now.

I live in Tn

But Alabama has one of the first anti agenda 21 laws in the country and also is very strong on the 2nd amendment I also like that there Governor just said no to the scam of health care compacts,also north Alabama is very pretty. Also our part of Tennessee is very nice and we are strong 2nd amendment and we are working on our own anti agenda 21 bill but the governor here is a POS so that is something else we are working on we do not have a state income tax.

InLibertyDan

Alabama is quite

Alabama is quite impressive!

You guys got rid of Agenda 21 at the state level! That's huge.

Washingotn, and here is why...

First, Washington has taken steps to end the war on drugs. Hopefully, and with the support of a citizenry that agrees, they will push out the federal agents looking to violate state laws. but that's only part of it. Washington is also looking to pass a Firearms Freedom Act (http://firearmsfreedomact.com/) similar to what Montana has passed. The act bypasses the Commerce Clause that the Feds are violating to over tax and regulate interstate ammo and arms sales. Lastly, Washington has two borders not strictly bound to the union, namely the Pacific coast and with Canada. If shit goes down and an all out loss of liberty ensues, then Washington will have an advantage over other states. Where Washington goes, so does entire north west, IMHO.

New Hampshire or Utah

My top pick would be New Hampshire because of the free state project (My Utopia) and then maybe south central Utah...after watching Strategic Relocaton.

http://freestateproject.org/

Strategic Relocation Video (You can fast forward the first one hour and ten minutes, which is basically the authors SHTF theory)

http://youtu.be/jzjm9MJFSA8

don't forget

don't forget www.freestatewyoming.org

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

North Dakota

The state has a surplus when every other is running a deficit. Tons of jobs, little crime and good schools. Bismark is a reasonable size city with just about everything you need.

The oil is creating countless jobs with good pay

brrr

cold

Move to NH...

I plan on moving to NH at some point. There is supposedly a lot of libertarians there. No state income tax and sales tax is pretty sweet too.

"Supposedly?"

Truly So!