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Lew Rockwell: Ron Paul's ‘Secret’ Plans for Continued Leadership For The Liberty Movement

Via the Liberty Crier: Lew Rockwell appears on the Alex Jones show and discusses what’s next for the liberty movements fight against statism. At the beginning of the interview Lew tells us that Ron Paul has big plans for the liberty movement but cannot reveal them until he is out of congress. Lew says that Ron Paul will be more powerful now that he is out of politics.

http://youtu.be/cwMklPa8w_M




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maybe he will start a website that doesn't butcher his name?

for starters

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Ron Paul vs. The Imaginary Constitution

Good interview.

Since it's about Mr. Rockwell, I'd like to recall us about a VERY important article from Dr. Ron Paul, written years ago, as I would hate the words from Ron Paul about "the Constitution failing us" to be MISINTERPRETED :

Federal Courts and the Imaginary Constitution

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul120.html

IMO, there is no problem with the Constitution (if only with at least the 16th and 17th amendments stripped off) or even less, with the Bill of Rights - Amendments I to X.

On this end, I sincerely think that Dr. Ron Paul really meant to say that corrupt rent-seeking politicians and other cronies CAN ALWAYS FIND WAYS TO ABUSE even the best Constitution ever written, as long as the People, ITSELF, is complacent enough to let them do so.

Also, besides Bastiat's "The Law", also remember the words of one of the most famous (and quite despicably cynical) PTB ever on HOW USEFUL IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN to some, to carry out their plans, TO BETRAY THE LANGUAGE, BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE :

"Give me six lines written by the most honorable of men, and I will find an excuse in them to hang him."

-- Cardinal Richelieu

Peace.

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BUMP

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

The Catholics gave us the idea of decentralization?

Someone read Exodus 18 to Rockwell.

Charles Jackson
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Exactly! And the tradition of THE biblical ideas was

carried on by the church. Check the teaching of "subsidiarity", Chuq :-)

He didn't say "carried on."

He wouldn't have said that.

Charles Jackson
http://MathIsChristian.wordpress.com Also, read Ron Paul's original staff economist Gary North at http://teapartyeconomist.com/

Just thinking about the

Just thinking about the content of this interview... amazing! The implication is liberty. One of the best interviews I have heard.

May we all live in

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That's...

A Chinese curse.

The blessing is said:

"May you live in uninteresting times."

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I can hardly wait...

...to see what Ron Paul plans are!

-Bloatedtoad

Any guess

As to what those plans might be?

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Ron Paul is a brilliant man...

Who knows what's in store!

-Bloatedtoad

If they would kindly...

...just give all of us a state of our own, with no government intervention and leave all the sheeple to them, that would be fine. We could do it our way and they can stay away! Ron Paul could be our prez with Judge Napolitano as the v.p. Please don't wake me up from that dream!

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Leading 50 secessions?

That is just a guess.

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Transcribed the last commentary by Lew for your sharing pleasure

“This is the attitude we all have to have. First of all, this is how we start. We’re walking along the street, and some guy comes up and shoves a gun in your rib and says, ‘Give me your wallet.’ Maybe you’re going to give your wallet, but you’re not going to give him your consent. You’re going to realize you were robbed. That’s the government.

So, you don’t say, ‘Oh, thank you Sir for protecting the public good and the common defense and everything by taking my money.’ Too many Americans have that attitude towards the government. The government is our enemy. It’s a parasite. It’s not doing us any good. It’s doing us immense harm. It’s doing immense harm to the whole world…the US Government, the biggest, richest, most powerful government ever to exist.

So first of all we have to have the attitude that God created us free , and that in effect government is serving Satan by taking away our freedom. So that’s the nature of the struggle.

Again you have to know something about economics. You have to know something about American history. You have to know something about political philosophy and libertarianism and so forth, to arm yourself intellectually and help arm other people intellectually. This has to be an intellectual fight because they’ve got most of the guns. They’ve got the tanks. They’ve got the atomic bombs. We can’t fight them that way.

We are the majority, the people who are the ripped-off. There are far more of us than the rippers-off. So, we can fight them.

First do not give them consent. Educate yourself. Talk to your neighbors. Stir up trouble in an intellectual sense by telling people the truth of the situation. Pay no attention to the networks or the big newspapers. They’re all of course big liars. Big academia, big business, they’re liars.” – Lew Rockwell

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Ron Paul and "The Message" are One.

Ron Paul symbolises a unique message. No one else in political life at the Federal level has stood for what he has established in the public mind. Many call themselves Ron Paul Republicans. There is a reason for that.

I believe that Ron Paul created a political platform that he crafted out of his forty years in public life (so far) and 12 terms in Congress. This is his own property even though he has freely shared it with millions of his countrymen. Anyone who studies this platform and researches the legislation he presented during his terms in Congress and reads his books will be better equipped to deal with the political situation America finds itself in today.

There are other messages under the "Liberty" banner, e.g. the Libertarian message, but these are not the Ron Paul message. The Ron Paul message is specific and proprietary with a specific political purpose. To diffuse the energies of the Ron Paul R3VOLution would be singularly unproductive at this time. This is why it is important to maintain the attachment of the name to the message. Just as FDR's name is attached to a specific programme of public works interventionism at the Federal level so is Ron Paul's name attached to a specific political platform firmly based upon a certain economic and monetary theory and the jurisdictional limitations placed upon the Federal government by the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

I believe Michael Nystrom acted in haste when he removed Dr. Paul's portrait from the front page of the website. Perhaps he will come to realise this in due time. The iconic portrait of Ron Paul painted by a Ron Paul R3VOLutionary would be a very good replacement. The website can represent the IDEAS of Ron Paul for the very specific political ACTION required to RESTORE THE REPUBLIC. Ron Paul himself will be the public face of these IDEAS and ACTION so long as he is alive and others will gradually grow up and mature around him as the IDEAS spread and through political ACTION the R3VOLution gains traction.

Many have embraced these IDEAS 100% and are taking ACTION in the way that Ron Paul himself advised his supporters to do. Now that he will be even more influential and unrestricted by political office I would expect the RON PAUL R3VOlution to gain tremendous momentum and support in the years to come.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Well spoken

I agree that his message is not pure libertarian, etc...

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Very well said David Robertson!

Thank you!

Debbie

Obi-Ron Kenobi?

In my district, we have taken

In my district, we have taken the wheel and are leading our party into the direction of Liberty. We decided to instead of going more center to pander to the changing demographics, we are going to focus on teaching the demographics. We are starting here in our little district.
We've decided that we need to start with the basics, emphasizing the importance of American history and the Constitution.

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Nice to hear from Lew...

...but man I can't stand Alex anymore. So abrasive, makes me cringe.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Seems like he's on drugs or something

like uppers. He's really out of control.

Agreed.

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The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

If we deploy

anarcho-capitalism as a reform philosophy while recognizing that there will always been the need for government to some degree then we have a powerful change vehicle. The idea is to deconstruct the central beast to give us something that makes common sense. Decentralize, localize. Secession, as Paul has said is a tool to get there. 2013 should be very interesting indeed.

We need to make friends with anyone who is interested in deconstructing the beast.

Or those willing to question the beast

"that there will always been the need for government."

That is what government tells us. Can that claim be independently verified?

Government calls me to be a patriot, To worship the state as a father.

Take a look at the Federal Reserve Notes. "In God We Trust" is in banners over the homes and buildings of Government officials.

I think we had better decide what the proper role of government is?

I propose that liberty is the only common good.

I can't find where government has promoted liberty.

Free includes debt-free!

The free market IS 'government'

in the best sense of the word. There is never a need for monopolization of force. That said, however, I think that anarchists should realize that most people don't agree with us and quite possibly never will. And so a limited state is vastly preferable to the system we have now if that's the best that we're realistically able to attain. Therefore not supporting liberty minded candidates like Ron Paul & Gary Johnson is hugely counterproductive to the cause of gaining liberty.

Those demanding to be without a ruler

Those demanding to be without a ruler are not not seen kindly by those who claim the authority to be rulers.

For a libertarian (non-aggression principle and voluntary exchange) anarchy means without a ruler not without rules.

Free includes debt-free!

Anarcho-capitalism

is as dangerous as the central beast, as it is the opposite extreme in which power is exclusively given to very large corporations and without due process and role of the government in protection against fraud, theft and so forth it would become the central beast very quickly. Just that this time the central beast would be Monstanto and Koch brothers and the likes of them. In my view the solution is very simple - just return to the constitutional republic. Meaning - the federal govt goes back to the basics and doesn't get involved in healthcare, education, welfare and what not, as it shouldn't be. On the other hand it doesn't prevent the states from doing that. And then let 50 states hash out what works the best. I think therein lies the genius of the founding fathers - 50 states all connected via same infrastructure and common language would trade ideas with each other and find out what works and what doesn't much faster and better than some USSR-style monstrosity trying to come up with one-fits-all solution.

Why does AJ interrupt his guests?

He cut Lew Rockwell off a few times while he was still making points. And it wasn't to add anything of value or to say "I have limited time so let's move on to the next topic". It was more to just randomly take control of the conversation and say something that Lew already said. I'm not an AJ listener (though I have seen a decent number of his interviews) and this seems to be his style.

Drives me nuts..This would

Drives me nuts..This would have been an awesome interview had Alex kept his mouth shut. I have come to figure out that it is because he has to seem like he is the important one with the ideas or information he must have very low self esteem.

"and the truth shall make you free"
John 8:32