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A remarkably prescient quote

Every ambitious would-be empire clarions it abroad that she is conquering the world to bring it peace, security and freedom, and is sacrificing her sons only for the most noble and humanitarian purposes.

That is a lie, and it is an ancient lie, yet generations still rise and believe it! If America ever does seek Empire, and most nations do, then planned reforms in our domestic life will be abandoned, States Rights will be abolished in order to impose a centralized government upon us for the purpose of internal repudiation of freedom, and adventures abroad.

The American Dream will then die—on battlefields all over the world—and a nation conceived in liberty will destroy liberty for Americans and impose tyranny on subject nations.

George S. Boutwell, (1818-1905), Secretary of the Treasury under President Ulysses S. Grant, Governor of Massachusetts, Senator and Representative from Massachusetts.




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WAR IS A RACKET..

We have been warned many times. Here is another:
"There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights." 1933 - Major General Smedley Butler, USMC

"I just want to live in a free country" - Dr. Ron Paul

War is a Recket - Reenacted.

War is a Recket - Reenacted.

Introduction listed by YouTube:
War is a Racket by Smedley Butler is a famous speech denouncing the military industrial complex. This speech by two-time Congressional Medal of Honor recipient exposes war profits that benefit few at the expense of many. Throughout his distinguished career in the Marines, Smedley Darlington Butler demonstrated that true patriotism does not mean blind allegiance to government policies with which one does not agree. To Hell with war.

Suggestions to limit war by General Butler:

  • Let the $30 / month stipend paid to military privates be the limit of income to all those that profit from war. Arms dealers. Uniform makers. War profiteers one & all.
  • Let only those being sent into battle vote for battle.
  • God to war only after proper deliberation & declaration to protect our homes & the Bill of Rights.

I have read carefully the treaty of Paris, [Settlement of the Spanish / American War, 1898] and I have seen that we do not intend to free, but to subjugate the people of the Philippines. We have gone there to conquer, not to redeem. . .

It should, it seems to me, be our pleasure and duty to make those people free, and let them deal with their own domestic questions in their own way. And so I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

George S. Boutwell & I were charter member Anti-Imperialists.

THE GREAT AMERICAN WRITER, MARK TWAIN had a great deal to say on imperialism in the Caribbean. As a member of the Anti-Imperialist League, along with such notables as Jane Addams, William Jennings Bryan, Clarence S. Darrow, Andrew Carnegie, William James, David Starr Jordan and Samuel Gompers with George S. Boutwell, former secretary of the Treasury and Massachusetts, as its president, spoke vociferously against our adventurism in that arena.

Here is just one sample of his writings on the subject. It was published in the New York Herald on October 15, 1900. He was writing about the Philippines, but it takes little imagination to substitute the name "Puerto Rico". I would go so far as to say with confidence that Twain would heartily endorse that exchange as it fits the context, the geography and the spirit of his words.

Mark Twain on Imperialism

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Unbelievably wise

Had to double check a few times that this quote was not a hoax. It is so close to actual events.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

George S. Boutwell & I were fellow Anti-Imperialists.

Here is my related reply from moments ago w/ details & a link to the facts of the matter.

http://www.dailypaul.com/263502#comment-2838150

Thank you for your diligent checking of references to be sure of what you see.

"It ain't what you don't know that causes trouble. It is what you know for certain that just ain't so." - Mark Twain

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Bump

Bump for Boutwell

donvino

He was in a position to know.

Ulysses Grant served from 1869-1877 so he was President when the Constitution was changed in 1871 for the present corporate Constitution that has enabled everything that Mr. Boutwell "prophesied". In other words he may have been privy to the designs of the powerful to do exactly what he predicted.

It is also the case that the accretion of power to the centre had already been achieved with the victory of the centripetal forces in the Civil War and the passing of the 14th. Amendment in 1868.

It may be that he witnessed these events and their aftermath from an insider's perspective and followed their implications logically to their conclusion. Or it may be that he was, as I suggested, privy to the plans of the powerful men who even then controlled the destiny of the nation.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Earlier records of pertinent news?

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/ratification/virginiatime...

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Henry was "extremely uneasy at the proposed changes of government." He fears that such a drastic change from a Confederation to a Consolidated arrangement puts the liberty of the states in danger.
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Joe

It appears that Patrick Henry's apprehensions were justified.

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"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Too little too late, even for Henry?

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Proceedings-Debates-Constitutio...

Hamilton and his associates, fellow criminals, wanted National Debt, code words for crime made legal, they said as much, give us a Nation State (consolidated government) and we promise to be good about it, we will turn your Good Faith and Credit into National Debt, how nice can it get?

This nice:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Productive people produce good faith and credit, so who borrows and who lends?

Things were up-side-down in England after Magna-Carte and Trial by Jury was up ended, it took time, so the slaves ran away to America, reinventing Common Law, Trial by Jury, and Limited Constitutional Government, and under a Confederated System, under The Articles of Confederation, that country of former slaves, the volunteers, drove out the largest aggressive army for profit on the planet.

Between 1776 and 1788 here, in this land, there was competitive, voluntary, government working to improve quality and lower cost, in which a precedent was set, for all to see, and learn about, whereby runaway slaves found sanctuary, running from despotic states, within the Confederation, to less despotic states, within the confederation, that precedent became known as Shays's rebellion.

http://www.amazon.com/Shayss-Rebellion-American-Revolutions-...

Note the title:

The American Revolution's Final Battle

The runaway slaves failed to remove the despots who took over Massachusetts government, and they fled to Vermont.

That was the end of Monetary Slavery, and any other Slavery, within that country, that confederated government, under The Articles of Confederation.

Hamilton drove Washington out of retirement and they held the first Con Con Con Job in Philadelphia.

Hamilton and his group of Monarchists, Central Bankers, combined with the Slave Traders of the south, made a compromise called The Dirty Compromise, in those SECRET closed door meetings, complete with legal GAG ORDERS, and those criminals sold out Liberty, they sold the lie with The Federalist Papers, which sounded good, but they were lies, promises to be immediately broken once in office.

TO WIT:

http://www.amazon.com/Whiskey-Rebellion-Frontier-Epilogue-Re...

Note the title

In King Georges own words:

http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/whiskey/...

" And whereas, James Wilson, an associate justice, on the 4th instant, by writing under his hand, did from evidence which had been laid before him notify to me that "in the counties of Washington and Allegany, in Pennsylvania, laws of the United States are opposed and the execution thereof obstructed by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings or by the powers vested in the marshal of that district";

And whereas, it is in my judgment necessary under the circumstances of the case to take measures for calling forth the militia in order to suppress the combinations aforesaid, and to cause the laws to be duly executed; and I have accordingly determined so to do, feeling the deepest regret for the occasion, but withal the most solemn conviction that the essential interests of the Union demand it, that the very existence of government and the fundamental principles of social order are materially involved in the issue, and that the patriotism and firmness of all good citizens are seriously called upon, as occasions may require, to aid in the effectual suppression of so fatal a spirit; "

G. WASHINGTON,
By the President, Edm. Randolph

Source: Claypoole's Daily Advertiser, August 11, 1794

Slavery made legal.

No more sanctuary, and the Spirit of 1776 is crushed by a conscripted army led by the new King.

Yup, Patrick Henry blew the whistle, who listened?

Joe

For some time I have understood it began at the beginning.

These links you have provided add substance to that understanding.

In other words the situation today is simply the result of 220 years of development of the Federalist Party spirit from generation to generation with the gradual imposition of control from the centre on the entire nation.

It seems to me to be an intractable problem and one that will not easily be resolved absent divine intervention so that is where I have placed my hope. This does not preclude the effort to change the present state of the union. That must continue since it is above all a very effective way to open minds to the fundamental question of what constitutes good government.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Oh my...

that is prophetic and we are living the prophesy.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul