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I have been identified by the US. Department of Health and Human Services

I received a letter over a month ago from the US Department Health and Human Services (DHHS). They were very excited to announce that my household had been selected to conduct a National Survey on Drug Use and Health.

Here is the letter:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/89689736@N08/8196808230/
(I have leaflets and other information that accompanied this )

The letter said 200,000 interviewed and the leaflet says 70,000.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/89689736@N08/8196863866/

It further explains that this is the Federal Governments primary source of national data on the use of alcohol, tobacco, and illicit substances.

The survey also contains questions on health and illegal behaviors and other topics associated with substance use.

According to the letter approximately 70,000 individuals, 12 years old and older, will be randomly selected and asked to voluntarily participate.

Included was the name of an organization named RTI that had been contracted to solicit this information from me. They were going to come to my house and ask me or my family members some questions. In return, they would pay each person that participated $30.00 "CASH" for their time.

Yes you heard me right, they want to send a stranger unknown to me, come to my house, sit down with my kids and ask them behavioral questions. In return, they have bribed us with $30.00 each of your money to do this. The whole idea creeps me out!

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2 weeks ago I was cleaning my garage when a vehicle pulled into my driveway and a female with a company credential pinned to her chest that said RTI got out of her car and approached me. She said "Sir, may I speak to you for a moment?" I politely said "how may I help you"?

She went through a well rehearsed little script on who she was, why she was here and that the questions were completely confidential. She also said that she wanted to know how many people lived in my household, how many were children and what were their ages?

I immediately told her to please leave and that I had no interest in participating.

She then offered to pay cash for each person she spoke with and preceded her attempt to convince me how this information was extremely helpful to the Federal Government.

I again told her not to try to convince me and that I am 100% sure I did not want to participate so its time to say "goodbye" Incredibly she attempted yet another tactic on me. She said, "I know how you feel, I'm like you"....

I said, you have know idea what your talking about. You have no idea what I'm like!

She then said "I'll just put on my sheet you didn't want to talk. Then said "I'm anti-government too...

I responded and said I never told you I was ant-government and I would like you to please leave! I couldn't believe the gull of this person to come here and interrogate me in my driveway.

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I then received a second letter in the mail last week. It went into the fact that someone had stopped by and that they were unable to gather the information they were sent to collect. It requested I call an 800 number whereas they would further explain the importance of the survey. Then it stated that they would be sending someone back out again soon.

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This morning my doorbell rings and when I answer there is another lady at the door with the same credential as the first lady. She begins her introduction and I interrupted and said "I know who you are" As I told the first lady I did not want to participate. Then she actually leaned into my door and said " If you have any children, I can just ask them a few questions" ...

I slammed the door nearly hitting her in the face with it.

Do you find this a little odd? The persistence or shall I say " insistence" to speak with my children? or the fact that they have $2.1 million dollars in cash of your tax money at their disposal to use as bribe money?

WTF? Something is very wrong with this picture in a day of super surveillance and a looming fiscal crisis.

What do you think?

DEX




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"Confidential" my ass

These scum will gather information to be used to seize your children and ruin your lives. I suggest you respond with a written notice to cease and desist. You need to push back hard against these traitors. Lay down your line in the sand now.

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undermine the interviewers confidence

while your at it. Ask them about their drug use, etc. Tell them how important it is for posterity and that they shouldn't worry because you'll keep their information confidential.

Make no mistake

You can call them RTi, BFE or FTW it doesn't matter, it's still the the Federal Government and they are way out of line.

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Expect to see more

Expect to see more people working for "shadow" organizations which does the dirty work for the Federal Government. They already know evrything about us from doing our taxes each year. As the economy gets worse and worse, expect to see more people doing this kind of work and believing they're actually doing a job.
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Know someone who does this

I know this guy from some meetings I had seen him at in the past. One day I see him scoping out my apartment complex. I ask him what he is doing and he states he is verifying addresses and number units. Thought this was weird since he could just ask the manager. I see him again and he is really snooping around. Looking in first floor windows, standing in the stairwells and walking around the parked cars! I go to the manager and ask what this guy is doing. The manager actually gives me a copy of his ID badge. RTI it shows. So I look into RTI. Check it out people. It's a contract company doing intrusive snooping for the government. I was infuriated and told the manager this man is violating people's privacy. He would show up at all hours. Mostly after 5pm and on the weekends. I let all the people in my men's group meeting know about the guy and what he is doing. He has not been invited back. Just saw him at another group meeting. He was taking notes after the meeting was over. He makes it a point to stand off in the corner and takes a lot of notes. This guy is a self admitted communist. This is very scary and very wrong. I can't believe this is happening in my small town in Montana. Stay alert.

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This happened to me with medicare...

I turned 65 this year so became eligible for medicare and at this point you have to join because of Obamacare mandate. So, I chose an Advantage plan. Shortly after, I received a survey from the Advantage plan and also from Medicare. It said it was voluntary and asked all kinds of questiona about my health. I threw them away. They were mailed to me at least two more times; I threw them away. Then one evening I received a phone call. A woman said she was calling about the survey and they needed my information to complete it and asked if this was a good time. I said no, it is not. I said I do not want to complete the survey. She sounded shocked! Like, who would not want to participate. So, she finally hung up. I cannot believe anyone would complete this survey asking about personal health. The best thing is to not go to a doctor at all; just take care of yourself and stay out of their system as long as possible.

that is incredible and scary as hell

If you really think about it, it sounds like classic intel gathering and for a women to suggest that you are "anti-government" is almost like they are targeting you. Dude I really don't want to sound like a crazy person here, but if it happened to me I would go talk to my lawyer. What the hell could a person possibly gain by telling the federal government about how often they break federal laws?

I'm in awe that this skank called you anti government!! It's almost as though she was trying to bully you. Did you get the sense that they had been briefed on your political affiliations or do you think she was just an idiot blurting out the first thing that came to her mind?

Its a survey to make

Its a survey to make obamacare more efficient. And they want to eat your children.

Southern Agrarian

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"And they want to eat your children."

"And they want to eat your children."

Nah. That would be counter-productive.

They just want the names of the kids, of the public school they attend, and of which teachers and administrator** are in charge to brainwash them.

For them kids to serve THE STATE, later on.

P.S.
** who's to bribe some more at the next State + Dept. of Education budget

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My Hat is Off

I am very proud of you for standing up to them. But beware, your phone won't stop ringing until they get their information. Just keep doing what you are doing and don't answer the phone. GOOD JOB!

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don't open the door for them

either.

Hint.....

....everything and I mean EVERYTHING you tell your doctor now goes to the DHHS under HIPAA.

You probably told him something that flagged you. Now, you are going to have to lie to your own doctor or tell him that you'll only tell him if he doesn't enter it into your records.

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If they come by, our reply will be along these lines :

If they come by, our reply will be along these lines :

"Hi, what's up ?

[...]

Survey did you say ? We're only law abiding here, and we're not willing to participate in this, thank you !

Goodbye !"

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This happened to me

except it was with the census. I was a household selected for 'additional' questions. I did not send in the form. And when the guy showed up and my house, I told him nicely to leave and never comeback. He told me that this was really important and that my answers would help my community get their fair share from the Federal Government. When he said that I about lost it. He came back when I was at work a bugged my wife. I promptly called his supervisor and complained, they apologized and repeated it was not their policy to come back after they had been told to leave and that we did not want to participate. I don't believe them.

This is only going to get worse.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

THIS HAPPENED TO ME AFTER THE LAST ELECTION!!

I'm serious! I got a letter that there were going to be random health questionnaires and that my town was selected to participate for the national study. It was right about the time of the "should I fill out my Census forms?" Remember that whole scene? And that is what I thought it was all about.

A lady stopped by the house. Very nice with a slight VA twang to her voice (I worked with a lot of people in VA and noticed it.) She insisted that I should participate in the random study because my household would get $100.

I nicely told her that I wasn't interested. She persisted. I said, "Look, that house across the street. They might be interested. The buzz around the neighborhood is that they may be having money issues and they might really appreciate $100."

She said AND I QUOTE BECAUSE I WILL NEVER FORGET IT, "No its says I have to get the person at the yellow house on the left. OK would you please answer some questions?" I asked how she got that information. She said that they have a person drive around and create a list of Random addresses. Which they then distribute to the outreach person (her).

I was outside working in the yard and I couldn't close a door on her. She started to just ask me questions. I told her, "Look I'm really not interested." She asked for like the third time, "well are there children at this house" I hedged again just as my mom drove up to drop off the kids who ran out of the car to hug me. She jotted that down. I told her that I had to deal with the kids - would she just Please Leave.

SO I looked up the organization she worked for. Yes it was legit via the Centers of Disease Control. HOWEVER being a Ron Paul person I researched further. It appeared that the study in my state was actually funded via a circuitous route THROUGH THE UN!!!

that was sickening

to hear.

You just scared the H*LL out

You just scared the H*LL out of me...

note it was a Random Study why the heck would it matter

if she asked me the questions or the person directly across the street?

Oh and NO. In my instance I don't think it was the Census. There had been a story in the Newspaper (for what that' worth) about the study. She gave me a photocopy of it and I checked it out. The paper had run it. And there had been a notification posted in the Newspapers too. It was about HEALTH. Although it was exactly about the same time as the Census filing questioning.

It's all about "Health" isn't it? It's for the children! It's

because we love you. We want to keep you safe. Just you. At your house. You're special. What? Leave? No, no, you must not understand. We insist. You're special. Here, take some money.

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Yup. Of course.

Yup. Of course.

"I am The State. I care about you" :

http://www.dailypaul.com/262535/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-...

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I'm going to check my old emails

because the ultimately weird thing had something to do with Social Security information going to the UN. I wrote it all out in detail at the time to a bunch of friends of mine. I don't remember exactly now, but there was some UN Health Initiate thing that everything hinged upon. This was about the time my Mother thought I was getting out of control not trusting the government. But when I showed her my research - she's a nurse and a paralegal - she was really mystified. She has since written in Ron Paul.

When I find the original email I will post it under another thread.
And post here to let you know.

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My favorite sign I saw was "Keep Out - Trespassers will be Violated"

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This reminds me of something

This reminds me of something that happened at the end of this summer.

Let me preface this by saying I live about 10 miles out of town and there is not another home in sight, at least 2 miles in every direction to another home. One Saturday morning, I'd say 9 am or so, a woman came to my house out here to supposedly sell me some books for my kids. It really bugged me.

First of all, she woke me up on a damn Saturday!
She had to come through 2 full grown Great Pyrenees dogs to get to my front door.......how many would dare do that?
She didn't seem to take a hint when I told her she'd just woken me up and I clearly had no idea what she wanted.
When I pretty much told her to get lost she said she wasn't trying to steal my animals........which I found to be a very odd reply. *I had mentioned her coming up on my land past my dogs but I wasn't insinuating she was trying to steal, I was insinuating she was trespassing and I even have like 3 signs up about trespassing.

I still don't understand if she was really doing door to door sales why in the world she would have come so far out in the country and then past trespassing signs and onto the property of a homeowner with huge guard dogs running free? She seemed very determined to make it to my front door......

On top of that the fact she knocked for like five minutes to wake me up. I heard it but tried to ignore it at first so I could continue sleeping in, since it was a Saturday and all but eff no. She just kept knocking and knocking til I got up to see what in the Hell she wanted.

So.. what in the hell did she want?

I'm curious

Laurelai

You said no and she said this:

If you have any children, I can just ask them a few questions...

THAT makes my blood boil further proving the government thinks they own our children and parents are mere sperm donors and fertilized egg incubators.

Hope they got the message...yes, it is very odd and disturbing.

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Makes me wonder if they will...

...start going to the schools for info...if that's legal...of course they don't care anymore and could "create" a new law out of thin air to make it happen. So creepy, everything is getting creepy!

They already have!

Here's a link to a 2011 story about a middle school making students take a survey about oral sex! Of course the parents didn't know anything about it.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/15/school-surveys-7th-grad...

The greedy principal claimed no responsibility whatsoever for this inappropriate trash by claiming "the school has nothing to do with the content and they were required to administer the survey to FULFILL A GRANT REQUIREMENT."

The principal also said that "the survey was funded by a federal grant and administered by LUK Inc., a local social services agency -- in coordination with the Centers for Disease Control."

So there you go, the Feds are not only dangling cash in front of parents, but schools as well. Needless to say, the schools are a lot more willing than parents to sell out the children in their care.

This isn't the only instance of this occurring-- read about a similar survey just last month.

Bump.

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