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I have been identified by the US. Department of Health and Human Services

I received a letter over a month ago from the US Department Health and Human Services (DHHS). They were very excited to announce that my household had been selected to conduct a National Survey on Drug Use and Health.

Here is the letter:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/89689736@N08/8196808230/
(I have leaflets and other information that accompanied this )

The letter said 200,000 interviewed and the leaflet says 70,000.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/89689736@N08/8196863866/

It further explains that this is the Federal Governments primary source of national data on the use of alcohol, tobacco, and illicit substances.

The survey also contains questions on health and illegal behaviors and other topics associated with substance use.

According to the letter approximately 70,000 individuals, 12 years old and older, will be randomly selected and asked to voluntarily participate.

Included was the name of an organization named RTI that had been contracted to solicit this information from me. They were going to come to my house and ask me or my family members some questions. In return, they would pay each person that participated $30.00 "CASH" for their time.

Yes you heard me right, they want to send a stranger unknown to me, come to my house, sit down with my kids and ask them behavioral questions. In return, they have bribed us with $30.00 each of your money to do this. The whole idea creeps me out!

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2 weeks ago I was cleaning my garage when a vehicle pulled into my driveway and a female with a company credential pinned to her chest that said RTI got out of her car and approached me. She said "Sir, may I speak to you for a moment?" I politely said "how may I help you"?

She went through a well rehearsed little script on who she was, why she was here and that the questions were completely confidential. She also said that she wanted to know how many people lived in my household, how many were children and what were their ages?

I immediately told her to please leave and that I had no interest in participating.

She then offered to pay cash for each person she spoke with and preceded her attempt to convince me how this information was extremely helpful to the Federal Government.

I again told her not to try to convince me and that I am 100% sure I did not want to participate so its time to say "goodbye" Incredibly she attempted yet another tactic on me. She said, "I know how you feel, I'm like you"....

I said, you have know idea what your talking about. You have no idea what I'm like!

She then said "I'll just put on my sheet you didn't want to talk. Then said "I'm anti-government too...

I responded and said I never told you I was ant-government and I would like you to please leave! I couldn't believe the gull of this person to come here and interrogate me in my driveway.

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I then received a second letter in the mail last week. It went into the fact that someone had stopped by and that they were unable to gather the information they were sent to collect. It requested I call an 800 number whereas they would further explain the importance of the survey. Then it stated that they would be sending someone back out again soon.

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This morning my doorbell rings and when I answer there is another lady at the door with the same credential as the first lady. She begins her introduction and I interrupted and said "I know who you are" As I told the first lady I did not want to participate. Then she actually leaned into my door and said " If you have any children, I can just ask them a few questions" ...

I slammed the door nearly hitting her in the face with it.

Do you find this a little odd? The persistence or shall I say " insistence" to speak with my children? or the fact that they have $2.1 million dollars in cash of your tax money at their disposal to use as bribe money?

WTF? Something is very wrong with this picture in a day of super surveillance and a looming fiscal crisis.

What do you think?

DEX



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You just scared the H*LL out

You just scared the H*LL out of me...

note it was a Random Study why the heck would it matter

if she asked me the questions or the person directly across the street?

Oh and NO. In my instance I don't think it was the Census. There had been a story in the Newspaper (for what that' worth) about the study. She gave me a photocopy of it and I checked it out. The paper had run it. And there had been a notification posted in the Newspapers too. It was about HEALTH. Although it was exactly about the same time as the Census filing questioning.

It's all about "Health" isn't it? It's for the children! It's

because we love you. We want to keep you safe. Just you. At your house. You're special. What? Leave? No, no, you must not understand. We insist. You're special. Here, take some money.

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Yup. Of course.

Yup. Of course.

"I am The State. I care about you" :

http://www.dailypaul.com/262535/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-...

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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I'm going to check my old emails

because the ultimately weird thing had something to do with Social Security information going to the UN. I wrote it all out in detail at the time to a bunch of friends of mine. I don't remember exactly now, but there was some UN Health Initiate thing that everything hinged upon. This was about the time my Mother thought I was getting out of control not trusting the government. But when I showed her my research - she's a nurse and a paralegal - she was really mystified. She has since written in Ron Paul.

When I find the original email I will post it under another thread.
And post here to let you know.

Nobody comes to my door. My

Nobody comes to my door. My sign says, "No Tresspassing, Violators will be shot. Survivors will be shot again. And, I'm not joking."

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My favorite sign I saw was "Keep Out - Trespassers will be Violated"

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This reminds me of something

This reminds me of something that happened at the end of this summer.

Let me preface this by saying I live about 10 miles out of town and there is not another home in sight, at least 2 miles in every direction to another home. One Saturday morning, I'd say 9 am or so, a woman came to my house out here to supposedly sell me some books for my kids. It really bugged me.

First of all, she woke me up on a damn Saturday!
She had to come through 2 full grown Great Pyrenees dogs to get to my front door.......how many would dare do that?
She didn't seem to take a hint when I told her she'd just woken me up and I clearly had no idea what she wanted.
When I pretty much told her to get lost she said she wasn't trying to steal my animals........which I found to be a very odd reply. *I had mentioned her coming up on my land past my dogs but I wasn't insinuating she was trying to steal, I was insinuating she was trespassing and I even have like 3 signs up about trespassing.

I still don't understand if she was really doing door to door sales why in the world she would have come so far out in the country and then past trespassing signs and onto the property of a homeowner with huge guard dogs running free? She seemed very determined to make it to my front door......

On top of that the fact she knocked for like five minutes to wake me up. I heard it but tried to ignore it at first so I could continue sleeping in, since it was a Saturday and all but eff no. She just kept knocking and knocking til I got up to see what in the Hell she wanted.

So.. what in the hell did she want?

I'm curious

Laurelai

You said no and she said this:

If you have any children, I can just ask them a few questions...

THAT makes my blood boil further proving the government thinks they own our children and parents are mere sperm donors and fertilized egg incubators.

Hope they got the message...yes, it is very odd and disturbing.

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Makes me wonder if they will...

...start going to the schools for info...if that's legal...of course they don't care anymore and could "create" a new law out of thin air to make it happen. So creepy, everything is getting creepy!

They already have!

Here's a link to a 2011 story about a middle school making students take a survey about oral sex! Of course the parents didn't know anything about it.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/15/school-surveys-7th-grad...

The greedy principal claimed no responsibility whatsoever for this inappropriate trash by claiming "the school has nothing to do with the content and they were required to administer the survey to FULFILL A GRANT REQUIREMENT."

The principal also said that "the survey was funded by a federal grant and administered by LUK Inc., a local social services agency -- in coordination with the Centers for Disease Control."

So there you go, the Feds are not only dangling cash in front of parents, but schools as well. Needless to say, the schools are a lot more willing than parents to sell out the children in their care.

This isn't the only instance of this occurring-- read about a similar survey just last month.

Bump.

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twilight zone music was playing in my head

as I read your story. If this ever happens to me I would not open the door once I discovered this was a federal "spy." I thought it was very smart of you not to agree with her about being anti-gubmint. You know she would put that down in her notes, the little trickster.
I would not open the door to federal agents and I would grab my video camera so I could record whatever she shouted through the door and show how long she banged at it.
Thanks for posting, so I can think about this in advance - should anyone come a-knockin'.

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Use Qik or USTREAM etc

Get one of those apps for the phone that uploads while it's taking video. That way if any miscreant decides to deprive you of your property, you have the evidence already uploaded, including their taking.

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Suggestions: Request a copy of the survey.

File a trespassing complaint against RI
How does your local sheriff feel about FED intrusion?

Nothing about this can be good.

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It's crucial to know the CONSTITUTION

Dr. Paul has tried to tell us to know the Constitution like the back of our hands to defend ourselves against atrocities like these. Carl Miller explains why below:
http://www.trentonian.com/article/20121020/OPINION03/1210299...

This guy, CM, is BRILLIANT. Watch part 2 first to see what's possible. Part 1 are important case laws. This stuff needs to be spread around like wild fire. This is how we free ourselves fr. slavery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q35DoJroTYY&feature=relmfu Know Your Constitution - Carl Miller Part 2 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s-zHrNPfkQ&feature=relmfu Know Your Constitution - Carl Miller Part 1 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9fdSirNinQ&feature=relmfu Know Your Constitution - Carl Miller Part 3 of 3

Wow, Carl Miller...

is great. Thanks so much! I'll pass this on...

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We should really start filming these encounters.

The survey workers might be less cocky if they knew they were on film and if that doesn't change then you have evidence of their harassment. At the very least the video could help in swaying public opinion.

Those are my first thoughts anyway.

maybe.........

Maybe they think you may be running for office someday. A liberty minded, small government conservative, who took money from big government for a health care study would make a fine hit piece commercial for TPTB. It would basically destroy your credibility right away.

Could this be electorate research?

It is obvious that the people in power for both parties are baffled by the growing liberty movement and just can't accept that people are holding on to their principles rather than selling out for free government handouts.

So is it possible that this government funded market research into drug use could be for the purpose of discovering how much of the liberty movement is comprised of drug users? Since both parties love to persecute non-violent recreational drug users, they have to be wondering if the non-violent recreational drug users are a demographic they need to start pandering to in order to win them future elections. All of us on this forum know that the true freedom movement supports drug legalization to increase individual freedom and shrink government, but these clowns leading the two major parties can't comprehend that idea..

Dex- did you return your

Dex- did you return your Census form in 2010? I'll bet they are picking on those people who did not, I know I did not answer any of the questions except the number of people living in my house.

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I think you might be on to something with the census thing

see my response above THIS HAPPENED TO ME!

the company RTI, do you know

the company RTI, do you know anything about them?
reason i'm so curious is that i work for a RTI but it is a tissue bank. not anything dealing with gov't

As First Lady Nancy Reagan said,

JUST SAY NO!

Oh, yeah, that's advisable if a child might have used illegal drugs, to report that information to a quasi-government agency. Just know that you're not alone in choosing not to participate. Well, at least not participating with any information that you yourself would provide. I wonder what the demographic profile looks like of those who don't respond. (Uh-oh. Think it might skew the results?) NHSDA/NSDUH survey materials -National Household Survey on Drug Abuse: 1999 Nonresponse Analysis Report (http://www.samhsa.gov/data/NSDUH.aspx#whatsNew)

My advice: play this little Taj Mahal ditty for the next nice lady or not-so-nice guy who comes aknockin' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MweybdKPbO8

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Something stinks here.... I

Something stinks here.... I doubt you were randomly chosen. Why make so many attempts on the same person/family if clearly you aren't interested. If someone comes back, id suggest you turn the tables. Ask them who pays them, how often they get paid, is it weekly/bi-weekly. Do they get paid hourly, or by the survey completed? How long have they worked there, are they hiring, what is the training like? Just have a laundry list of things about them and their job ready to go and see what kind of reaction you get.

It sounds like contract money

being spent for the sake of enriching cronies. Just about all gov't spending is, but this looks particularly conjured.

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The difference between 70,000 selected and 200,000 interviewed may be that more in the households were interviewed for each individual selected.

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Why did they omit the "U.S." from the "Department of Health and Human Services"? They used the seal, it's not like they're masquerading as being affiliated by changing the name.

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Sounds like it was your turn in the barrel

Good on you for throwing them out!

One day, I'm gonna' change my name to Dale Lee Paul