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Skyscraper on fire in Dubai - No Pancake Effect

Burning for 8 hours, no pancake effect.

Washington Post: DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Rescue crews in Dubai safely evacuated a 34-story residential tower Sunday after a fire gutted portions of the building, police said.

The blaze charred the outside of the structure and send gray smoke drifting over a major development known as Jumeirah Lakes Towers, a cluster of high-rise apartment buildings and shops on the southern edge of Dubai.

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fireant's picture

Try to read what is written.

I didn't say "all", I said "full of". There is a difference.
I'm writing a book on the building failures, and am not going to try and produce it here for you, esp since you are not open minded. But in the end, the burden of proof is yours. If you claim demolition, prove it. Show us where the charges were placed to make the buildings collapse as they did, instead of relying on anecdotal evidence.

Undo what Wilson did

Fireant

I'd be interested to hear what parts of the "official version" that you question.

fireant's picture

The most obvious aspect of the "official" story which warrants

a new investigation is the Bush Administration's stonewalling of the House and Senate Committee and the 911 Commission, especially as it pertains to financing and planning of the operation, the flight training of the pilots, and the Saudi connections. There is where we have hard evidence of obfuscation and cover-up.
A new investigation will never be launched based on CD because there is no structural evidence to support it.

Undo what Wilson did

Semantics

"I didn't say "all", I said "full of". There is a difference."

Semantics Fireant. Like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

And if you look at the videos of the 9/11 buildings falling - check out the regular smoke-bursts. They are not "anecdotal"!

fireant's picture

None of the smoke bursts were consistent with explosions.

They start at one speed, then increase in velocity. An explosion would initiate at max velocity.

Undo what Wilson did

lol man

Sure we'll get you the evidence, show you where charges where planted ...

Oh. Wait. SNAP!!

That's right .. yeah ... they swarmed all over that site before the fking nanothermite dust was even settled, and SCRUBBED THAT PLACE CLEAN of every possible thing they could, in violation of their own procedures.

Hell. Why bother waiting for independent investigation when you have nothing to hide?

LOL

fireant's picture

Another bit of misinformation.

We have hours and hours of video prior to anything being "scrubbed", and we have volumes of photos. Have you spent hours watching or looking? We also have thousands of volunteers and first responders who would be screaming if they saw evidence of demolition. We also have teams from FEMA, NACE, and countless other agencies picking through all the debris at Fresh Kills and two other sites. None of the debris was released for recycling until it had been picked through and signed off on by those teams.

Undo what Wilson did

Will your book contain your pyroclastic flow theory?

...that all the contents of the upper floors pouring into the lower portion might've created the pyroclastic clouds? (nevermind that much of what you list was ejected OUTWARD as the twin towers appeared to peel like bananas..)

Try to visualize all the contents of the upper floors, massive chunks of hot concrete, steel beams, all the offices and cables and equipment, pouring into the lower tower at one time, creating a jumbled mega meat grinder, and super heated at that. Yes, I can imagine pulverization would take place.

Yes, I can imagine tremendous heat was generated with all that friction, enough to generate the dust laden pyroclastic clouds.
http://www.dailypaul.com/255112/the-smoking-gun-wtc7-taken-d...

fireant's picture

I stand by that statement.

Considering the tons of drywall in the Towers, I see no mystery to the clouds of heated dust.

Undo what Wilson did

Nutjob!

I'm so sick of you ignorant trolls.
GROW UP and think for yourself Dumbass!!!

buddy

Surely it's just a coincidence

that every bad thing this country was headed for, sped up by leaps and bounds after 9/11

One day, I'm gonna' change my name to Dale Lee Paul

Bump

To be fair about this.....

Did someone dump many tons of jet fuel on it?

I'm not saying truthers are wrong - just saying comparing apples to oranges doesn't work.

You forget

Building 7....no plane no jet fuel. Freefall implosion.. Just sayin.

Bullshit. Building 7 was hit

Bullshit. Building 7 was hit by a lot of debris.

Get a Brain

Really!!! must I explain? You obviously have not a clue. If your here on the Daily Paul, are you not smart enough to think? Or are you a troll maybe...

buddy

Perhaps, but even NIST claims

Perhaps, but even NIST claims that the ONLY thing causing WT7's collapse was FIRE! There is no evidence that the debris caused enough damage to cause symmetrial collapse.

I can't believe people in this room don't know that ??

It's been nearly 12 years ?? I no longer wonder why America has the problems it does.

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

MSM

Former CIA director William Colby said "The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

So MSM is involved in the 911

So MSM is involved in the 911 conspiracy. LOL no wonder why people dismiss the entire liberty movement. This kind of batshit crazy is the cancer of the movement.

The MSM is working in collusion with the govt. NIST is an agency

of the Federal Government. Look at the slick video doctoring of building 7 the NIST did here. Completely removed the Penthouse from footage to make it appear there never was one so it couldn't be seen collapsing into the middle of the building.How could any decent reporter miss that?

Did NIST Edit WTC 7 Footage To Hide Evidence Of Implosion? Yes!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/did-nist-edit-wtc-7-footage-to-h...

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

My Point Is

That the MSM mostly doesn't ever challenge the "official story". They're not a thorn in the side of government the way they should be. Instead they're the propaganda arm of government. They believe what they're told and they tell us we should too.

You idiot! No one is saying

You idiot! No one is saying that the media KNOWS for a fact that it was an inside job. The point is that it has no incentive to do anything but report what the establishment wants us to hear. So sick of people like you twisting our words, and using straw men. YOU are why the liberty movement has no traction. YOU are way too quick to sell out your fellow travelers here with your fear of being marginalized by a corrupt media and society.