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Oklahomans Prepare for New Law That Will Make Guns a Common Sight

In a state with 142,000 men and women licensed to carry concealed weapons, the scene at Beverly’s will most likely become commonplace as Oklahomans take advantage of the law by displaying their handguns while they shop for groceries, eat at restaurants and walk into banks.

“This enhances Oklahomans’ ability to exercise their Second Amendment rights,” said the Republican state senator who wrote Senate Bill 1733, Anthony Sykes. “I think the evidence is clear that gun owners are some of the most responsible people, and they’ve shown that in not just Oklahoma, where we’ve had conceal carry for quite some time and there’s never been an incident, but in these other states as well.”

The new law has illustrated the ways in which the state’s image as a bastion of rugged outdoorsmen and gun-toting cowboys is as much fact as it is fiction.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/31/us/oklahoma-prepares-for-o...



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Actually

that was effective on 1 Nov. But, thanks for posting it!

Maybe with all these guns

Maybe with all these guns around, they'll be forced to allow third party candidates on the ballot. /eyeroll

Are you kidding?? :)

In most of the state there ain't no such thing as a second party, so don't try to get a third one in!
In the county I live in I sometimes think I'm the only Republican in the county!

In Maine and NH

In Maine and NH you only need a license to conceal. Open carry is a right given to every one. However we don't all walk around with open firearms as it freaks people out and mainly causes a stir, mostly people from out of state like MA and CT. In VT the laws are even looser, the only law they have is that a gun may not be used for illegal purposes. Now if martial law is in effect, in my state of NH you can be sure that you will see more open carry, including myself. And I'm pretty sure you will be seeing more than half of us showing with our modes of defense against tyranny. The FED will be going after states MA, CT, NJ way before they even think about coming up north to the states of NH, ME and VT, live free or die.

It is better to look dumb and not be, than to look smart and not be.

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Same here in

Colorado! Love it.

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

MA laws are not looser!

The requirements for license to carry concealed differs from town to town but overall there is a thorough background check....very thorough, and then it's up to the Chief of police in that town to decide who gets the license and what type of licence, class A, B, or C.
Anyone caught with a firearm and no license, gets a mandatory 1 year in jail!

I believe there is still a sign stating the penalty as you come in from N.H.

No, the laws here are anything but loose.

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

umm...

pretty sure that was their point. The Feds will go after places such as MA first because of the very strict firearms laws.

The firearms laws here are quite lax, but there still exists some red tape (especially when it comes to hunting.) I know you don't need a license to own a shotgun or rifle here in NH, I think you need (or "should have") a bill of sale for a pistol though, not 100% sure. Lots of people just bypass the system and get pick them up at yard sales anyway (which is perfectly legal here, though frowned upon by some.)

A signature used to be here!

You should always excercise your right to bear arms

We haven't as a nation and that's allowed the liberals to lay the groundwork in peoples minds. If people everywhere carried, nothing would be thought of it.. Fuck those who have hurt feelings over my natural rights.

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Guns SHOULD BE open carried....

I hate the argument that having guns in the open "scares" other people. Is society that brainwashed to be scared of the sight of a gun on a law abiding person???

I live in CT and technically Connecticut is an open carry state.
The Pistol Permit says very clearly "Permit to carry pistols or revolvers". Nothing mentioned about required to be concealed.

There were already a few cases that were thrown out by the courts of people who had pistol permits who were carrying in the open that were just regular citizens...

When Cops or other "Officials" walk around with guns in the open, do these same people get "scared"? Or do they feel safe? And, as a side note, cops and other "officials" are definitely some of the worst abusers of their powers on the citizenry.

So why does a Law Abiding Citizen, carrying a firearm in the open scare people? Simple, they've been TRAINED by officialdom to be scared of it. These people have been conditioned to be scared of their own shadows.... because they CAN NOT THINK for themselves. They need some official somewhere to think for them. That's how retarded this whole situation is...

Firearms in the open is a GOOD thing. It's a recommended thing. We all have an expiration date, while we are here, are we all going to live like little babies and be scared... over NOTHING.

What can a firearm, in the open, secured in the holster of a Citizen do to anybody. Is the gun just going to magically jump out of it's holster and start going off. Are rounds randomly going to start firing out of the chamber....????

AM I RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FEELINGS OF OTHERS WHEN THEY SEE A FIREARM ON MY HIP, SECURED IN A HOLSTER, NOT BOTHERING ANYBODY!!!!??? NOOOO!

If somebody is a brainwashed government baby, that's their deal. Do you see me going up to them telling them that their freedom of speech scares me? I mean really, are people this lame?

Firearms should be as common of a sight as automobiles are! Simple as that. They are nothing more than a tool for defense in the hands of good people. In fact, firearms can only be brandished to prevent a crime from happening, just brandished... that's awesome!

Who here could imagine Thomas Jefferson or George Washington saying to each other that they need pistol permits to carry a gun??? This has become such non sense.

And here's the shabby little secret WHY this has become this way..... ready..... here it is:

GOVERNMENT IS SCARED OF ALL OF US HAVING GUNS AND ORGANIZED TO USE THEM! THAT IS THE THREAT TO THEIR UNLAWFUL EXERCISE OF POWER!

And there you have it. The reason why people are TRAINED to be scared of anyone other than an "official" who carries a firearm in the open!

Love Liberty, be Vigilant

"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)

Faith in God will prevail all things!

Oh for the love of.....

OK so AZ adopted constitutional carry laws and know what happened?

Nothing.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

In Oklahoma

when the bill passed there were outcries of "The streets of Oklahoma will be running red with blood on the second of November"

I'm still waiting to see that! It should be the blood of all the criminals and Oklahoma will then be a more friendly state!

quote from the article:

"Brad Henry, a Democrat, in part based on law enforcement concerns that such a law would make it difficult for officers to sort out the good guys from the bad guys at a crime scene."

my response:
umm...the bad guys will still be pointing their guns when the cops show up, or they will be dead on the ground before they get there.

The bad guys...

The bad guys will be the ones that are arresting people for legally making videos of police breaking the law.

RickStone

Gun control...

Gun control is a steady hand, a good eye and the second amendment.

RickStone

Awesome definition.

Awesome definition.

It's also, not shooting these bastards who are trying to lord

over us. :)

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At what time...

At what point in time does your definition of gun control cross the line into submission and slavery? Do we wait until our second amendment rights are taken away from us piece by piece and we can no longer defend ourselves from "these bastards who are trying to lord over us" ? Should we have infinite patience so that they can work their agenda and we are defenseless like the Jews in Germany? Why is growing a backbone such an abhorrent concept to so many people? Are we a nation of sheep? I have no respect for the "Don't rock the boat" crowd. This country was built by brave men and women and look at it now. This is why we are in a downward spiral.

RickStone

Serious Discussion:

Why give relevence to illegal laws? To me, this [Senate Bill 1733] would instigate others who do not care for the Constitution, or those who simply want to abolish it. Why not open/conceal as you wish in any state, as granted by the Constitution? NO law, local, state or federal, can supercede the Constitution, which is the "LAW OF THE LAND".

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"When the law takes effect, Oklahoma will become the 15th state to "allow" people to openly carry firearms "with a license". Those 15 states include Utah, Iowa, New Jersey and Connecticut. Several other states, including Arizona, New Mexico and Nevada, have even more permissive laws that allow the carrying of unconcealed firearms without a license. All but six states and the District of Columbia allow some form of open carry, said John Pierce, founder of OpenCarry.org."

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Carl Miller:

Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803). This is one of the leading cases in the history of the U.S. The opinion of the court was “Anything that is in conflict is null and void of law; Clearly for a secondary law to come in conflict with the supreme was illogical; for certainly the supreme law would prevail over any other law, and certainly our forefathers had intended that the supreme law would be the basis for all laws, and for any law to come in conflict would be null and void of law. It would bear no power to enforce, it would bear no obligation to obey, it would purport to settle as though it had never existed, for unconstitutionality would date from the enactment of such a law, not from the date so branded by a court of law. No courts are bound to uphold it, and no citizens are bound to obey it. It operates as a mere nullity or a fiction of law, which means it doesn‟t exist in law.”

Now let me give you an example in today‟s timing as to how effective this is: This argument is so effective that it literally nullifies the Brady Bill, it nullifies the crime bill that takes away the right of the people to keep and bear arms on these 19 weapons that turn into 159 weapons, it stops the 666 bill that just went through that they‟re trying to take away the 4th Amendment, Because they have no
power to pass a law that‟s in conflict with the United States Constitution, and it‟s automatically null and void of law from its inception; not from the day you go to court and brand it as unconstitutional.

A lot of people think they have got to go to court and brand it unconstitutional. But if you know your arguments and you can show your arguments, most of the time you will win.

Norton v Shelby County, 118 US 425: An unconstitutional act is not law. It confers no rights, it imposes no duties, it affords no protections, it creates no office, it is in legal contemplation as inoperative as though it had never been passed.

Murdock v Penn clearly established that no state could convert a secured liberty into a privilege and issue a license and a fee for it.

Shuttlesworth v Birm. Said that if the state does convert your right into a privilege and charge a license and a fee for it you can ignore the license and fee, and engage in the right with impunity. That means they can't punish you…they have to let you go.

http://privateaudio.homestead.com/CARLTEXT.pdf

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I agree in principle, but

there is no law allowing them to tax your wages. However, if you don't pay their 'income tax' you will probably have everything taken away from you and spend time in jail! Many courts now state that "The Constitution is NOT allowed in this court!"
Needless to say, I paid my illegal 'income tax'.

I also know that the second says "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED", and having to get a "permit" is an infringement, however (maybe I'm a coward?) I don't like the thought of being imprisoned because I am carrying a loaded weapon. Or worse, many so called LEO's will freak out and blow a big hole in you first!(depending on the State) That's the ENFORCEMENT part of LEO.

...

So you just lay down to the weasles who are corrupt.

Here is what to do: Listen to Carl Miller in its entirety. Then demand that your case be heard by a Superior Court.

If WE do not defend our Constitution, which is THE LAW OF THE LAND, why even have it? You may as well vote obama and thank him for allowing you to breathe, should he be so kind.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I will continue to

appear to comply. And continue to vote, and work, for freedom and the Constitution. You can write to us from your prison cell. Go ahead and open carry your weapon where ever you go, regardless of state laws. Don't pay your "income tax", do what ever is only Constitutional and a prison cell is where you will be living.

obama loves you.

obama loves you. So does hillary, for making their job SOOOO much easier. Just think, in time, you will no longer even have to worry about 'voting' for your 'rights'.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Ok,

you talk big. What have you done? Walked into the library with your pistol on your hip? Convinced the local cop that you can carry a firearm because of the Bill of Rights?

From what I see, you are doing nothing but making fun of others for doing the same thing you are. Except you aren't even brave enough to get a carry permit, instead you scream "Bill of Rights!" at anyone that has gotten a permit.

Like I said, when you write us from jail for standing up for your rights then maybe, maybe, you can talk. Till then I'll just ignore you.

And YES I know the Second gives us the right to be armed, but the current laws have taken that away. And yelling about it, or ignoring current laws, is not going to change that. You have to get the people in office (ALL GOVERNMENT OFFICES) that agree and will do their best to throw out the current unconstitutional laws! Till then, you are just blowing smoke and making would be friends into your enemy!

jimwill

You assume many things.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

You Rock!

Thanks for doing up the pdf :) I have been working on my own as well. I really wish folks would stop giving validity to these STATUTES which are not LAWS and are completely unconstitutional to be using on the people.

STATUTES -> Are public servant CODES - ONLY for public servants.

Great news!!

On a side note: I smiled a little when I saw your screen name. Funny you would be the ones posting an article on gun toting cowboys. :)

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walk softly

and carry a big stick